20 Jan
2010
20 Jan
'10
11:59 a.m.
Hi there!
I have an M-Audio Axiom 49-key keyboard with several trigger pads,
rotary encoders, sliders, function buttons, and transport buttons.
Is there a way to program those buttons for various purposes in Linux?
Thanks!
20 Jan
20 Jan
12:59 p.m.
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Ectropic Harmony wrote:
Hi there!
I have an M-Audio Axiom 49-key keyboard with several trigger pads,
rotary encoders, sliders, function buttons, and transport buttons.
Is there a way to program those buttons for various purposes in Linux?
Thanks!
Is there anything particular that doesn't work?
A brief look into the user manual indicates that
only the rotary encoders are assignable, the rest
is fixed.
Assignment is done via the device itself, no editor
software required.
You can use aseqdump or kmidimon or gmidimon
or qmidiroute or ams or [...] to monitor what MIDI
data the axiom spits out.
If the flexibility the axiom provides isn't sufficient
(some apps just accept fixed controller messages,
others let users assign their own), remapping of
MIDI events can be done in software.
qmidiroute, mididings and puredata immediately
come to my mind, there are probably many others.
Search this lists archives, the remapping subject
came up before, e.g. the 'midi capture ...' thread here:
http://linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2009/12/19/
best,
d
1:23 p.m.
(I forgot to "reply all"...)
Thank you!
I was able to install "ams" and "qmidiroute" though I'm not
really
sure how to operate them. Basically, I'd like to be able to
assign/edit the different controls/knobs/etc. on the keyboard via a
user-friendly GUI-based program that helps visualize the changes in
the settings as they occur.
I'm new to MIDI on Linux (as well as recording/composing on Linux in
general). So all of this will take some getting used to... one app at
a time seems the best way to go.
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:59 AM, David Adler <david.jo.adler(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Ectropic Harmony
wrote:
Hi there!
I have an M-Audio Axiom 49-key keyboard with several trigger pads,
rotary encoders, sliders, function buttons, and transport buttons.
Is there a way to program those buttons for various purposes in Linux?
Thanks!
Is there anything particular that doesn't work?
A brief look into the user manual indicates that
only the rotary encoders are assignable, the rest
is fixed.
Assignment is done via the device itself, no editor
software required.
You can use aseqdump or kmidimon or gmidimon
or qmidiroute or ams or [...] to monitor what MIDI
data the axiom spits out.
If the flexibility the axiom provides isn't sufficient
(some apps just accept fixed controller messages,
others let users assign their own), remapping of
MIDI events can be done in software.
qmidiroute, mididings and puredata immediately
come to my mind, there are probably many others.
Search this lists archives, the remapping subject
came up before, e.g. the 'midi capture ...' thread here:
http://linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2009/12/19/
best,
d
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2:11 p.m.
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Ectropic Harmony wrote:
I was able to install "ams" and "qmidiroute" though I'm not
really
sure how to operate them. Basically, I'd like to be able to
assign/edit the different controls/knobs/etc. on the keyboard via a
user-friendly GUI-based program that helps visualize the changes in
the settings as they occur.
ams doesn't do remapping, it's an overkill application that,
among 1000 other things, can be (ab)used to monitor
incoming MIDI events.
Connect the axioms output to ams' input in the MIDI tab
of qjackctl.
Open 'View -> Control Center' from the menu, events will
show up in the left column as they arrive.
There is a checkbox labelled 'Enable Note Events' on the
bottom left, useful for monitoring purposes.
qmidiroute is GUI-based midi router, hopefully what You're
looking for.
In qjackctl, insert qmidiroute in between the axioms output
and the Inputs of the apps to be controlled.
I don't have it installed here ATM, but I recall its interface
being intuitive and user-friendly. It is about defining rules
for remapping, like changing MIDI channel, adding an
offset to the Note numbers of each Note event, remapping
events of one controller number to another...
I'm new to MIDI on Linux (as well as
recording/composing on Linux in
general). So all of this will take some getting used to... one app at
a time seems the best way to go.
welcome!
qmidiroute for the remapping and aseqdump and/or ams as a monitor
are a good choice IMHO.
aseqdump is simple though GUI-less, just type aseqdump into a
terminal and a port will show up in qjackctl.
greetings,
d
2:46 p.m.
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Hi there!
I have an M-Audio Axiom 49-key keyboard with several trigger pads,
rotary encoders, sliders, function buttons, and transport buttons.
Is there a way to program those buttons for various purposes in Linux?
Ardour:
connect the axiom to ardours MIDI-in, then press CTRL and do a
middleclick on any slider in ardours mixer...
Phasex:
right-klick on the _name_ of any knob on the surface...
Thanks!
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3:26 p.m.
On Wednesday 20 January 2010 16:59:27 Ectropic Harmony wrote:
I have an M-Audio Axiom 49-key keyboard with several
trigger pads,
rotary encoders, sliders, function buttons, and transport buttons.
Is there a way to program those buttons for various purposes in Linux?
I haven't changed the configuration of mine for quite some time but the manual
clearly describes how to program all the various controllers (buttons, pads,
sliders, rotaries, padels, wheels and aftertouch) to output anything from
controllers over notes to mmc. And all from within the keyboard, no software
needed.
Arnold
7:48 p.m.
I have the Axiom 61.... Basically everything is configurable using the the
keyboard itself. I found the configuration fairly straight forwards in fact
it hadn't even occurred to me that there would be software to do this task.
10:59 p.m.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Danni Coy <danni.coy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I have the Axiom 61.... Basically everything is
configurable using the the
keyboard itself. I found the configuration fairly straight forwards in fact
it hadn't even occurred to me that there would be software to do this task.
I don't own one and I was wrong saying that only the rotary
encoders are assignable, certainly all are.
Some devices, not the axiom, are only configurable via
software, e.g. the korg nano family (works with wine).
Many applications let the user do the assignment, e.g ardour,
phasex or ams. Others with fixed controller numbers, e.g.
zyn/yoshimi azr3jack need either their own dedicated hardware
preset (if such thing is available on the MIDI controller in use)
or one of the midi routing applications mentioned above.
best,
d
21 Jan
21 Jan
4:37 a.m.
On Thursday 21 January 2010 03:59:12 David Adler wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Danni Coy
<danni.coy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Most times you can spot the "self configuring" devices by their lot of buttons
and the big display, which the nano series hasn't.
I have the Axiom 61.... Basically everything is
configurable using the
the keyboard itself. I found the configuration fairly straight forwards
in fact it hadn't even occurred to me that there would be software to do
this task.
I don't own one and I was wrong saying that only the rotary
encoders are assignable, certainly all are.
Some devices, not the axiom, are only configurable via
software, e.g. the korg nano family (works with wine). Many applications let the user do the assignment, e.g
ardour,
phasex or ams. Others with fixed controller numbers, e.g.
zyn/yoshimi azr3jack need either their own dedicated hardware
preset (if such thing is available on the MIDI controller in use)
or one of the midi routing applications mentioned above.
Careful! These are two different things:
First is controlling which event on which midi channel a certain hardware
knob/button/fader outputs.
The second is how applications react to receiving midi events. Some apps have
this configurable via gui, some only via config-file, some have this fixed at
compilation time. But all react to midi in general, you don't need a keyboard
with faders, you can also "play" these events from a sequencer...
Arnold
10:08 a.m.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Arnold Krille wrote:
On Thursday 21 January 2010 03:59:12 David Adler
wrote:
hmm - did I say anything differnt/untrue?
Maybe the word 'need' made it unclear.
Applications certainly do not generally _need_ their own
hardware preset, just _if_ a non configurable app is to be
controlled with hardware it requires a matching preset.
This preset itself may reside in the controller hardware
or in any kind of software router.
best,
d
Many applications let the user do the assignment,
e.g ardour,
phasex or ams. Others with fixed controller numbers, e.g.
zyn/yoshimi azr3jack need either their own dedicated hardware
preset (if such thing is available on the MIDI controller in use)
or one of the midi routing applications mentioned above.
Careful! These are two different things:
First is controlling which event on which midi channel a certain hardware
knob/button/fader outputs.
The second is how applications react to receiving midi events. Some apps have
this configurable via gui, some only via config-file, some have this fixed at
compilation time. But all react to midi in general, you don't need a keyboard
with faders, you can also "play" these events from a sequencer...
5:36 a.m.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 03:59:12AM +0100, David Adler wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Danni Coy
<danni.coy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
i have an axiom25 and at the first 2 days i tinkered with the thought of
writing an app to configure it.
but i soon came to the conclusion, that it wouldnt be worth the effort.
i mean almost all apps have flexible midi bindings.
its much easier to never change the axiom conf, and just configure apps
accordingly.
(the only value i see is that one might be able to switch conf on the
axiom to control a different set of synths)
but that just requires to setup all configs to not interfere with each
other and your ready to go...)
I have the Axiom 61.... Basically everything is
configurable using the the
keyboard itself. I found the configuration fairly straight forwards in fact
it hadn't even occurred to me that there would be software to do this task.
I don't own one and I was wrong saying that only the rotary
encoders are assignable, certainly all are.
Some devices, not the axiom, are only configurable via
software, e.g. the korg nano family (works with wine).
Many applications let the user do the assignment, e.g ardour,
phasex or ams. Others with fixed controller numbers, e.g.
zyn/yoshimi azr3jack need either their own dedicated hardware
preset (if such thing is available on the MIDI controller in use)
or one of the midi routing applications mentioned above.
best,
d
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6:56 a.m.
On Thursday 21 January 2010 10:36:55 torbenh wrote:
i have an axiom25 and at the first 2 days i tinkered
with the thought of
writing an app to configure it.
but i soon came to the conclusion, that it wouldnt be worth the effort.
i mean almost all apps have flexible midi bindings.
its much easier to never change the axiom conf, and just configure apps
accordingly.
The one thing to change depending on the synth is the direction of the faders:
faders vs. drawbars :-)
(the only value i see is that one might be able to
switch conf on the
axiom to control a different set of synths)
but that just requires to setup all configs to not interfere with each
other and your ready to go...)
For that to work cool, the axiom (and probably many others) miss a text-
display to give names to the presets. And more memory for presets...
Arnold
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