7 Oct
2009
7 Oct
'09
1:09 p.m.
My daughter bought a bunch of songs from Sony's music downloads to my Sony-
Ericson cell-phone. They are similar sizes to mp3's but seem to only play on
the phone.
How might one play them in linux or on a normal mp3 player?
8 Oct
8 Oct
5:19 a.m.
Quoting David Baron <d_baron(a)012.net.il>il>:
ClamAV 0.95.2
My daughter bought a bunch of songs from Sony's music downloads to my Sony-
Ericson cell-phone. They are similar sizes to mp3's but seem to only play on
the phone.
How might one play them in linux or on a normal mp3 player?
Have you tried using mplayer?
If you have sndfile-info installed (usually from the package named
libsndfile-progs or similar) you can run that on the file and see if
it can identify it.
You probably won't be able to play it in a normal mp3 player without
converting it to mp3 first.
5:26 a.m.
Quoting Peder Hedlund <peder(a)musikhuset.org>rg>:
Quoting David Baron <d_baron(a)012.net.il>il>:
Hmm, according to this
http://stream-recorder.com/forum/cannot-remove-drm-fl-file-sony-ericsson-t1…
the file might be DRM-protected. In that case you can't play it on anything other than
the
phone.
My daughter bought a bunch of songs from Sony's music downloads to my Sony-
Ericson cell-phone. They are similar sizes to mp3's but seem to only play on
the phone.
How might one play them in linux or on a normal mp3 player?
Have you tried using mplayer?
If you have sndfile-info installed (usually from the package named
libsndfile-progs or similar) you can run that on the file and see if
it can identify it.
You probably won't be able to play it in a normal mp3 player without
converting it to mp3 first.
7:10 a.m.
On Thursday 08 October 2009 09:19:03 Peder Hedlund wrote:
Quoting David Baron <d_baron(a)012.net.il>il>:
$ sndfile-info AlHaaor_AitzikAsh_f.fl
Version : libsndfile-1.0.20
Error : Not able to open input file AlHaaor_AitzikAsh_f.fl.
File : AlHaaor_AitzikAsh_f.fl
Length : 4299064
File contains data in an unknown format.
ClamAV 0.95.2
My daughter bought a bunch of songs from Sony's music downloads to my
Sony- Ericson cell-phone. They are similar sizes to mp3's but seem to
only play on the phone.
How might one play them in linux or on a normal mp3 player?
Have you tried using mplayer?
If you have sndfile-info installed (usually from the package named
libsndfile-progs or similar) you can run that on the file and see if
it can identify it.
You probably won't be able to play it in a normal mp3 player without
converting it to mp3 first. Hmm, according to this
http://stream-recorder.com/forum/cannot-remove-drm-fl-file-sony-ericsson-
t1516.html?s=7bcb2305e1af656306e9f72a09ee5594 the file might be DRM-
protected. In that case you can't play it on anything other than the
phone.
And the phone is such a high-fidelity player, huh?
She bought rather than stole these songs. This is the reward. Friends have
pirated mp3's galore.
These files ARE mp3's. Such files would normally have a "magic number'
identifying them. Since vi can edit anything as long as one does not change
its length (I have used it to modify magic stuff in compile .ko's for
example), maybe it be possible to use it to place appropriate magic into these
files?
8:48 a.m.
Quoting David Baron <d_baron(a)012.net.il>il>:
She bought rather than stole these songs. This is the
reward. Friends have
pirated mp3's galore.
That's DRM in a nutshell for you...
If you check the site where she bought them chances are there are some
info about which format and copyright protection (if any) they use.
These files ARE mp3's. Such files would normally
have a "magic number'
identifying them. Since vi can edit anything as long as one does not change
its length (I have used it to modify magic stuff in compile .ko's for
example), maybe it be possible to use it to place appropriate magic
into these files?
Did you try using mplayer?
$ mplayer -v AlHaaor_AitzikAsh_f.fl
chould perhaps give you some clues
Even if they are mp3's at the core, my guess is that they reside
inside of the fl container, which is DRM protected. In that case just
chopping off/replacing the header or other random bytes probably won't
do any good.
You could, of course, connect the headphone output from the phone to
the soundcard of the PC and record the signal.
It's also possible that you could play the file in Windows, using the
Windows Media Player which supports DRM.
8:48 a.m.
Hi,
Didn't read the link, but this definitely has nothing to do with high
fidelity and everything to do with greed and short sightedness.
Hmm, according
to this
http://stream-recorder.com/forum/cannot-remove-drm-fl-file-sony-ericsson-
t1516.html?s=7bcb2305e1af656306e9f72a09ee5594 the file might be DRM-
protected. In that case you can't play it on anything other than the
phone.
And the phone is such a high-fidelity player, huh?
She bought rather than stole these songs. This is the
reward. Friends have
pirated mp3's galore.
These files ARE mp3's. Such files would normally have a "magic number'
They may be mp3s deep down but the DRM is probably a layer of encryption
with a secret key. Without knowning the key it'll be hard.
No magic numbers will make them readable.
... I suggest to return the songs, if possible.
And never, ever buy such again.
Microsofts response on a related question:
*Q: 'If I buy these songs on your service — and they're locked to my phone —
what happens when I upgrade my phone in six months' time?' A: 'Well, I think
you know the answer to that.'"*
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F22%2F1914201
/Robert
12:49 p.m.
On Thursday 08 October 2009 05:10 am, David Baron wrote:
She bought rather than stole these songs. This is the
reward. Friends
have pirated mp3's galore.
The music industry hasn't figured out yet that punishing your legitimate
customers makes piracy okay in most reasonable people's minds (if it wasn't
already). Or rather, Sony hasn't figured it out yet, since Apple and
Amazon have gotten over themselves and they're a lot more successful at
selling music online than Sony has ever been.
These files ARE mp3's. Such files would normally
have a "magic number'
identifying them. Since vi can edit anything as long as one does not
change its length (I have used it to modify magic stuff in compile .ko's
for example), maybe it be possible to use it to place appropriate magic
into these files?
When they say "the file might be DRM-protected", they mean the file is
encrypted and the keys to the encryption are in the phone. Sony's phones
and format are nowhere near popular enough for attacks on the encryption to
be successful, so your best bet is to get a patch cable and record the
phone's output into Audacity or something, and then export that as an mp3.
Rob
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