30 Apr
2013
30 Apr
'13
9:20 a.m.
Hi, although sidetracked by life for a while, I finally got around to
rebuilding my linux audio box.
It's a stock fedora 18:
Linux faure 3.8.5-201.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
16GB RAM
According to lspci -v, recognized are
... internal HDAC
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset
Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a102
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 48
Memory at fbff4000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
... an HDMI HDAC (nvidia)
02:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation High Definition Audio
Controller (rev a1)
Subsystem: Device 196e:0877
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
Memory at faffc000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
.. the delta 1010 and 2496
05:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712
[Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies Inc. M-Audio Delta Audiophile 2496
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 19
I/O ports at dfa0 [size=32]
I/O ports at dff0 [size=16]
I/O ports at dfe0 [size=16]
I/O ports at df40 [size=64]
Capabilities: <access denied>
05:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712
[Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies Inc. M-Audio Delta 1010
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16
I/O ports at df80 [size=32]
I/O ports at dfd0 [size=16]
I/O ports at dfc0 [size=16]
I/O ports at df00 [size=64]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: snd_ice1712
All is well with every device except the delta 2496
$ cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [M1010 ]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 1010
M Audio Delta 1010 at 0xdf80, irq 16
1 [PCH ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
HDA Intel PCH at 0xfbff4000 irq 48
2 [K61 ]: USB-Audio - K61
KORG INC. K61 at usb-0000:00:1a.0-1.5, full speed
3 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
HDA NVidia at 0xfaffc000 irq 18
I've shuffled the cards around the slots to no avail (only have 2 PCI
slots).
Could it be because they share the same bus (05) that somehow they don't
work together? Also, regardless of which slot the physical cards are
inserted into, only the delta 1010 is ever exposed by ALSA. To be sure,
I also confirmed that the 2496 does indeed work by inserting it into a
different test box.
Any insight would be appreciated.
David
12:24 p.m.
On 04/30/2013 07:43 AM, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
David Santamauro wrote:
as a matter of fact, yes, sorry, forgot about that error
[ 10.973036] ALSA sound/pci/ice1712/ice1712.c:2365 invalid EEPROM
(size = 97)
[ 10.979598] snd_ice1712: probe of 0000:05:00.0 failed with error -5
... which is
05:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712
[Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies Inc. M-Audio Delta Audiophile 2496
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 19
I/O ports at dfa0 [size=32]
I/O ports at dff0 [size=16]
I/O ports at dfe0 [size=16]
I/O ports at df40 [size=64]
Capabilities: <access denied>
All is well with every device except the delta
2496
Are there any messages in the system log (/var/log/messages or the
output of dmesg) after you're trying to load the driver snd-ice1712
(unload it first)?
1 May
1 May
12:38 p.m.
On 04/30/2013 08:23 AM, David Santamauro wrote:
On 04/30/2013 07:43 AM, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
Monster thread over at
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1932441.html
The OP's suspicion as to why his delta66 wasn't recognized:
"My suspicion is that this is all related to the evil bridge chips they
use on the mobo to run PCI slots thorugh PCIe controllers. Both PCI
slots run through this little chip and I reckon that it plays a major
part in the trouble (my conjecture - cant prove it!). Its worth noting
that when I installed the soundblaster card that solved the problem for
me both cards were given the same HW identifier when running aplay -l
etc (which suggests to me that the bridge chip is screwing it up).
Anyhow, either way it seems unable to properly address the chip on the
soundcard properly."
To summarize, he was using 1 slot of the 2 available PCI slots and he
found that by inserting a second PCI card into the second slot enabled
recognition of the first PCI slot (his delta66).
Interestingly, I had never actually tried with only one of my cards, so
I removed my delta2496 (occupying the 2nd slot) and the box wouldn't
boot -- I'll try and figure out exactly what is happening there the next
time I have a chance to reboot. But, nevertheless, in some small way
this effect lends credence (albeit remotely) to the above OP's
assumption that a second card as well as pci/pcie bridge "stuff" is at
play here.
thoughts welcome, thanks,
David
David Santamauro wrote:
as a matter of fact, yes, sorry, forgot about that error
[ 10.973036] ALSA sound/pci/ice1712/ice1712.c:2365 invalid EEPROM
(size = 97)
[ 10.979598] snd_ice1712: probe of 0000:05:00.0 failed with error -5
... which is
05:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712
[Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies Inc. M-Audio Delta Audiophile 2496
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 19
I/O ports at dfa0 [size=32]
I/O ports at dff0 [size=16]
I/O ports at dfe0 [size=16]
I/O ports at df40 [size=64]
Capabilities: <access denied> All is well with every device except the delta
2496
Are there any messages in the system log (/var/log/messages or the
output of dmesg) after you're trying to load the driver snd-ice1712
(unload it first)?
1:26 p.m.
David Santamauro wrote:
On 04/30/2013 08:23 AM, David Santamauro wrote:
Well, do you have an ASM1083 chip? (lspci)
Regards,
Clemens
[ 10.973036] ALSA
sound/pci/ice1712/ice1712.c:2365 invalid EEPROM (size = 97)
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1932441.html
"My suspicion is that this is all related to the evil bridge chips they use on the
mobo to run PCI slots thorugh PCIe controllers.
1:46 p.m.
On 05/01/2013 09:25 AM, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
David Santamauro wrote:
No.
... but I'm grasping, trying to do due diligence
thanks,
David
On 04/30/2013 08:23 AM, David Santamauro wrote:
Well, do you have an ASM1083 chip? (lspci) [ 10.973036] ALSA
sound/pci/ice1712/ice1712.c:2365 invalid EEPROM (size = 97)
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1932441.html
"My suspicion is that this is all related to the evil bridge chips they use on the
mobo to run PCI slots thorugh PCIe controllers. 
6:37 p.m.
On 05/01/2013 02:38 AM, David Santamauro wrote:
On 04/30/2013 08:23 AM, David Santamauro wrote:
Hmmm, sounds like a motherboard problem. Or something else plugged into
the mobo got bejoggled out of place enough to bother a marginal mobo?
On 04/30/2013 07:43 AM, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
Monster thread over at
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1932441.html
The OP's suspicion as to why his delta66 wasn't recognized:
"My suspicion is that this is all related to the evil bridge chips they
use on the mobo to run PCI slots thorugh PCIe controllers. Both PCI
slots run through this little chip and I reckon that it plays a major
part in the trouble (my conjecture - cant prove it!). Its worth noting
that when I installed the soundblaster card that solved the problem for
me both cards were given the same HW identifier when running aplay -l
etc (which suggests to me that the bridge chip is screwing it up).
Anyhow, either way it seems unable to properly address the chip on the
soundcard properly."
To summarize, he was using 1 slot of the 2 available PCI slots and he
found that by inserting a second PCI card into the second slot enabled
recognition of the first PCI slot (his delta66).
Interestingly, I had never actually tried with only one of my cards, so
I removed my delta2496 (occupying the 2nd slot) and the box wouldn't
boot -- David Santamauro wrote:
as a matter of fact, yes, sorry, forgot about that error
[ 10.973036] ALSA sound/pci/ice1712/ice1712.c:2365 invalid EEPROM
(size = 97)
[ 10.979598] snd_ice1712: probe of 0000:05:00.0 failed with error -5
... which is
05:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712
[Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies Inc. M-Audio Delta Audiophile 2496
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 19
I/O ports at dfa0 [size=32]
I/O ports at dff0 [size=16]
I/O ports at dfe0 [size=16]
I/O ports at df40 [size=64]
Capabilities: <access denied> All is well with every device except the delta
2496
Are there any messages in the system log (/var/log/messages or the
output of dmesg) after you're trying to load the driver snd-ice1712
(unload it first)?
I'll try and figure out exactly what is happening
there the next
time I have a chance to reboot. But, nevertheless, in some small way
this effect lends credence (albeit remotely) to the above OP's
assumption that a second card as well as pci/pcie bridge "stuff" is at
play here.
thoughts welcome, thanks,
You're welcome!
--
David
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