20 Jul
2004
20 Jul
'04
2:02 a.m.
Did every one take a vacation?
It's so quiet you can hear a fish drop!
:)
5:39 a.m.
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 21:12, Jan Depner wrote:
Is that a European fish or an African fish????
Jan
Oh man! You ask ALL the tough questions! ;) It was kind of a follow on
from the Elephant=Loud & Fish=quiet thingy by Arnold.
I was just having a jab at the kazillion or so posts on the wacky
widgetness (slobs vs liders) and suddenly I created a
....er...um...."Fish"?? Ain't we creative!?
R~
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 22:47, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
Did every one take a vacation?
It's so quiet you can hear a fish drop!
:)
7:49 a.m.
Last Tuesday 20 July 2004 08:24, Russell Hanaghan was like:
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 21:12, Jan Depner wrote:
One of the visual hallmarks of a GNU system - and one of the things that I
find attractive about it is the plethora of cute anthropomorphic animals used
as logos and icons. Each of these creatures has a kind of totemic association
in the context of GNU software ( like bit-beasts ). Therefore we should take
some care when assigning cuddly cartoon creatures to functions.
[I'll bring this thread round to a semi-serious point in a minute, just keep
reading ;-]
The elephant is clearly already the emblem of postgresql, the rest are
relatively free agents. We don't have much in the way of friendly fish icons,
unless you count PHP?s porpoise (not a fish), Terrapin has already been used
although not in a GNU context. I think rabbits are still free range.
There is generally, a lack of musical icons - both for applications and
functions and as there is a precedent for such we should reserve our animal
friends for application mascots. Although I'm expressing it rather
flippantly, I think there is some important psychology behind how we use
visual representations. Hence the passion behind the 'knobs vs sliders'
debate.
I don't think this is a Big Deal, but it is possibly worth some light-hearted
consideration ;-)
cheers
tim hall
Is that a European fish or an African fish????
Jan
Oh man! You ask ALL the tough questions! ;) It was kind of a follow on
from the Elephant=Loud & Fish=quiet thingy by Arnold.
I was just having a jab at the kazillion or so posts on the wacky
widgetness (slobs vs liders) and suddenly I created a
....er...um...."Fish"?? Ain't we creative!?
R~
> On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 22:47, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
> > Did every one take a vacation?
> >
> > It's so quiet you can hear a fish drop!
> >
> > :) 
9:11 a.m.
On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 04:34, tim hall wrote:
Last Tuesday 20 July 2004 08:24, Russell Hanaghan was
like:
You forgot the Ogg Vorbis fish.
Jan
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 21:12, Jan Depner wrote:
One of the visual hallmarks of a GNU system - and one of the things that I
find attractive about it is the plethora of cute anthropomorphic animals used
as logos and icons. Each of these creatures has a kind of totemic association
in the context of GNU software ( like bit-beasts ). Therefore we should take
some care when assigning cuddly cartoon creatures to functions.
[I'll bring this thread round to a semi-serious point in a minute, just keep
reading ;-]
The elephant is clearly already the emblem of postgresql, the rest are
relatively free agents. We don't have much in the way of friendly fish icons,
unless you count PHP?s porpoise (not a fish), Terrapin has already been used
although not in a GNU context. I think rabbits are still free range.
Is that a European fish or an African fish????
Jan
Oh man! You ask ALL the tough questions! ;) It was kind of a follow on
from the Elephant=Loud & Fish=quiet thingy by Arnold.
I was just having a jab at the kazillion or so posts on the wacky
widgetness (slobs vs liders) and suddenly I created a
....er...um...."Fish"?? Ain't we creative!?
R~
> On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 22:47, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
> > Did every one take a vacation?
> >
> > It's so quiet you can hear a fish drop!
> >
> > :) 
9:44 a.m.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 06:03:30AM -0500, Jan Depner wrote:
And the OpenBSD blowfish as well.
One of the
visual hallmarks of a GNU system - and one of the things that I
find attractive about it is the plethora of cute anthropomorphic animals used
as logos and icons. Each of these creatures has a kind of totemic association
in the context of GNU software ( like bit-beasts ). Therefore we should take
some care when assigning cuddly cartoon creatures to functions.
[I'll bring this thread round to a semi-serious point in a minute, just keep
reading ;-]
The elephant is clearly already the emblem of postgresql, the rest are
relatively free agents. We don't have much in the way of friendly fish icons,
unless you count PHP?s porpoise (not a fish), Terrapin has already been used
although not in a GNU context. I think rabbits are still free range.
You forgot the Ogg Vorbis fish. 
10:27 a.m.
On Tuesday 20 July 2004 13:29, Sebastian Stark wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 06:03:30AM -0500, Jan Depner
wrote:
And the babelfish KBabel / kde-i18n uses...
Arnold
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You forgot the Ogg Vorbis fish.
And the
OpenBSD blowfish as well. 
11:52 a.m.
Arnold Krille schrieb:
On Tuesday 20 July 2004 13:29, Sebastian Stark wrote:
more fish ... Wanda the Gnome fish and Bluefish :)
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 06:03:30AM -0500, Jan
Depner wrote:
And the babelfish KBabel / kde-i18n uses...
Arnold
You forgot the Ogg Vorbis fish.
And the OpenBSD blowfish as well.
2:17 p.m.
On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 06:37, Stefan Scheffler wrote:
Arnold Krille schrieb:
okay...okay! It is my official opinion that you guys (and gals) are
certifiably NUTZ! :) MUCH TOO MUCH time clearing out compile errors and
sifting thru code! :))
Now I know how to get my other questions answered ! :) Put 'em in fish
code!! blowfish++.
You lot are awesome! Winblows folks don't have this much laughs!
Cheers~
On Tuesday 20 July 2004 13:29, Sebastian Stark
wrote:
more fish ... Wanda the Gnome fish and Bluefish :) On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 06:03:30AM -0500, Jan
Depner wrote:
And the babelfish KBabel / kde-i18n uses...
Arnold
You forgot the Ogg Vorbis fish.
And the OpenBSD blowfish as well.
3:33 p.m.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 09:02:07AM -0700, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 06:37, Stefan Scheffler wrote:
One more fish for the barrel ... there was once a window manager that
for a while went be the name of sawfish.
-Eric Rz.
Arnold Krille schrieb:
okay...okay! It
is my official opinion that you guys (and gals) are
certifiably NUTZ! :) MUCH TOO MUCH time clearing out compile errors and
sifting thru code! :))
Now I know how to get my other questions answered ! :) Put 'em in fish
code!! blowfish++.
You lot are awesome! Winblows folks don't have this much laughs!
Cheers~ On Tuesday 20 July 2004 13:29, Sebastian Stark
wrote:
more fish ... Wanda the Gnome fish and Bluefish :) On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 06:03:30AM -0500, Jan
Depner wrote:
> You forgot the Ogg Vorbis fish.
And the OpenBSD blowfish as well.
And the babelfish KBabel / kde-i18n uses...
Arnold 
4:50 p.m.
el Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:19:00 -0400
Eric Dantan Rzewnicki <rzewnickie(a)rfa.org> escribió:
One more fish for the barrel ... there was once a
window manager that
for a while went be the name of sawfish.
i think no-one mentioned yet the (crappy) film "swordfish", where a
dangerous cracker of international reputation, wanted in many countries
accused of all kind of computer crimes, happened to be a young finnish
called axl torvalds... remember that one?
--
5:12 p.m.
luis jure schrieb:
el Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:19:00 -0400
Eric Dantan Rzewnicki <rzewnickie(a)rfa.org> escribió:
dang ... how could I miss that little goldfish ... I used it for years :)
One more fish for the barrel ... there was once a
window manager that
for a while went be the name of sawfish.
i think no-one mentioned yet the (crappy) film
"swordfish", where a
dangerous cracker of international reputation, wanted in many countries
accused of all kind of computer crimes, happened to be a young finnish
called axl torvalds... remember that one?
huh really? axl torvalds ... ouch. I've never seen it.
5:28 p.m.
Since we are talking about sea creatures, I felt like sharing program notes
for one of my compositions (they actually have nothing to do with the piece
they are associated with and as such I feel that they are perfectly
appropriate for this thread ;-).
Title: Imitation Crabmeat Rag
Some people like fishing.
Many others including the ones who like to fish, like eating fish.
Fish is considered to be a very healthy food, except when heavily poisoned by
mercury, as is usually the case with larger fish.
On Earth, we have saltwater fish and sweet-water fish. While the saltwater is
salty, the sweet-water is generally not sweet, yet both of the fish are, by
nature, neither sweet nor salty.
As far as we know, there are no fish on Mars.
In addition to fish, Earth waters are populated by squids and crabs, who, like
fish, live in water, but are not the same like fish. In fact, crabs and
squids taste nothing like fish.
Some people, including the ones who like to fish, and the others, including
fishermen, who like eating fish, like to eat crabs and squids.
Judging from the numbers who like eating crabs and squids as much as they like
to eat fish, it is safe to assume that the crabmeat is usually as tasty as
the fish meat.
Imitation Crabmeat(tm) is a produce, usually found in a local superstore, that
some people, who perhaps like to fish, but definitely eat fish, crabs, and
squids, like to eat.
I don't.
5:47 p.m.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 03:14:47PM -0400, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Since we are talking about sea creatures, I felt like
sharing program notes
for one of my compositions (they actually have nothing to do with the piece
they are associated with and as such I feel that they are perfectly
appropriate for this thread ;-).
Title: Imitation Crabmeat Rag
Some people like fishing.
Many others including the ones who like to fish, like eating fish.
Fish is considered to be a very healthy food, except when heavily poisoned by
mercury, as is usually the case with larger fish.
On Earth, we have saltwater fish and sweet-water fish. While the saltwater is
salty, the sweet-water is generally not sweet, yet both of the fish are, by
nature, neither sweet nor salty.
As far as we know, there are no fish on Mars.
In addition to fish, Earth waters are populated by squids and crabs, who, like
fish, live in water, but are not the same like fish. In fact, crabs and
squids taste nothing like fish.
Some people, including the ones who like to fish, and the others, including
fishermen, who like eating fish, like to eat crabs and squids.
Judging from the numbers who like eating crabs and squids as much as they like
to eat fish, it is safe to assume that the crabmeat is usually as tasty as
the fish meat.
Imitation Crabmeat(tm) is a produce, usually found in a local superstore, that
some people, who perhaps like to fish, but definitely eat fish, crabs, and
squids, like to eat.
I don't.
http://www.lyricsdownload.com/king-missle-the-fish-that-played-the-ponies-l…
9:31 a.m.
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We don't have much in the way of friendly fish
icons, unless you count PHP?s porpoise (not a fish)
AFAIK PHP's logo is a boring bevelled elipse thing. MySQL has a dolphin.
I would think songbirds were the obvious choice for music apps?
9:43 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] [OT] it's so quiet...
Joe Button wrote:
Regarding porpoises, dolphins, and musicians, this from a moment's googling:
# According to one Greek myth, the musician named Arion was the greatest
singer who ever existed. He was the court musician for the King of
Corinth, Periander. So great was Arion's fame that he made a tour of
Sicily.
During his visit to Sicily he was awarded many prizes and given gold
and much money. Now the crew of the vessel waiting to take Arion back
to Corinth knew of his newly acquired wealth. They plotted to steal it
from him and then cast him into the sea sometime during the return
voyage. In a dream, Arion was informed by Apollo of the plot against
his life. When the time came and the murderous crew made their move,
Arion made one last request--that he be permitted to sing a farewell
song. The crew could see no danger in that and agreed. So he dressed
in his finest court garments and stood on the bow of the ship and began
to sing. So sweet was his song that sea creatures of many kinds
surrounded the ship to listen. Among them was a school of dolphins.
Arion saw that the dolphins seemed very pleased with his song and
just before he reached the end of it he plunged overboard amid the
dolphins. One of the animals caught him before he struck the water and
raced off with him towards Corinth. It was with great difficulty that
Arion hung on, so swift was the dolphin's course through the sea. The
startled crew looked on helplessly and believed that surly Arion would
fall off the dolphin and drown.
But the dolphin safely carried Arion to Corinth. Arion told the
king of the crew's plot and when the vessel docked, Periander was
waiting for them. The crew said that Arion had decided to remain in
Sicily, so great was the wealth he had acquired there. When Arion
stepped into view and the crew saw him, they were so terrified they
confessed their plot. King Periander crucified them to the last man.
So pleased was Apollo with the good dolphin's role in rescuing Arion
that the god gave the dolphin a place among the stars.
We don't
have much in the way of friendly fish
icons, unless you count PHP?s porpoise (not a fish)
AFAIK PHP's logo is a boring bevelled elipse thing. MySQL has a dolphin.
I would think songbirds were the obvious choice for music apps?
21 Jul
21 Jul
2:19 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] [OT] it's so quiet...
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:14:51 -0400, Dave Phillips <dlphilp(a)bright.net> wrote:
Regarding porpoises, dolphins, and musicians, this
from a moment's googling:
# According to one Greek myth, the musician named Arion was the greatest
singer who ever existed. He was the court musician for the King of
Corinth, Periander. So great was Arion's fame that he made a tour of
Sicily.
Arion?
For a second there I thought Dave was going to advocate a somewhat
less heroic/flattering linux-audio mascot ;-D
http://www.metaldehyde.com/meta/en/slugs/0/0.html
K
9:50 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] [OT] it's so quiet...
Hi Kevin:
Well, I'm sure certain poobahs at a certain monopolistic software
manufacturing concern here in the US might consider the "pest slug" a
more fitting Linux mascot... ;)
Best,
dp
Kevin Ernste wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:14:51 -0400, Dave Phillips
<dlphilp(a)bright.net> wrote:
Regarding porpoises, dolphins, and musicians, this
from a moment's googling:
# According to one Greek myth, the musician named Arion was the greatest
singer who ever existed. He was the court musician for the King of
Corinth, Periander. So great was Arion's fame that he made a tour of
Sicily.
Arion?
For a second there I thought Dave was going to advocate a somewhat
less heroic/flattering linux-audio mascot ;-D
http://www.metaldehyde.com/meta/en/slugs/0/0.html
K
24 Jul
24 Jul
2 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] [OT] it's so quiet...
Before the GIMP we had XV with a very nice fish splashscreen and
cursor. And after the dot com boom we had Squid as a firewall.
Nice references, aren't they?
Eduardo.
20 Jul
20 Jul
9:48 a.m.
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Joe Button wrote:
PHP gets into elePHPants in France...
http://vpontier.free.fr/
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We don't
have much in the way of friendly fish
icons, unless you count PHP?s porpoise (not a fish)
AFAIK PHP's logo is a boring bevelled elipse thing. MySQL has a dolphin.
I would think songbirds were the obvious choice for music apps?
10:33 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] [OT] it's so quiet...
Last Tuesday 20 July 2004 12:19, Joe Button was like:
AFAIK PHP's logo is a boring bevelled elipse
thing. MySQL has a dolphin.
OK, I was close.
I would think songbirds were the obvious choice for
music apps?
Agreed.
http://muzik.agnula.org/ has an owl wearing headphones.
I am, btw, considering getting the gimp out and getting to work on a 32x32
canvas or whatever, if anyone has any serious suggestions. I'm not an artist
as such, but I can make icons. So can you probably ;-)
tum ti tum.
Just a thought.
tim hall
9:49 a.m.
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:34:39 +0100
tim hall <tech(a)glastonburymusic.org.uk> wrote:
The elephant is clearly already the emblem of
postgresql, the rest are
relatively free agents. We don't have much in the way of friendly fish icons,
unless you count PHP?s porpoise (not a fish), Terrapin has already been used
although not in a GNU context. I think rabbits are still free range.
Especially the secret rabbits:
http://www.mega-nerd.com/SRC/
Erik
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10:13 a.m.
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Especially the secret rabbits:
http://www.mega-nerd.com/SRC/
Erik
You've got to watch those rabbits. I've got 'em on my site - wretched
liability.
http://www.catnip.co.uk/main.php
Just don't click his nose.
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10:18 a.m.
Last Tuesday 20 July 2004 12:34, Erik de Castro Lopo was like:
Especially the secret rabbits:
http://www.mega-nerd.com/SRC/
I should have remembered that, doh!
There's a very strong correlation between rabbits and the sighting of UFOs.
But obviously it's a secret ;-)
tim hall
11:49 a.m.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:34:39AM +0100, tim hall wrote:
The elephant is clearly already the emblem of postgresql, the rest are
relatively free agents. We don't have much in the way of friendly fish icons,
unless you count PHP?s porpoise (not a fish), Terrapin has already been used
although not in a GNU context. I think rabbits are still free range.
The time has come to speak of fish
and other useless gibberish,
Allow me please to cast a line
about this favoured theme of mine.
Our best-loved fish makes little sound,
it's always good to have around.
Lads should know this fella, why
it's Xiphophorus helleri! [1]
Rabbits though make stealthy ploys,
like changing speeds with little noise
So don't be startled by the modes
of ... Sssh! secret rabbit code! [2]
Kfish.
[1] http://www.xiph.org/xiphname.html
[2] http://www.mega-nerd.com/SRC/
[3] http://www.kfish.org/
8 p.m.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 11:33:44PM EST, Conrad Parker wrote:
The time has come to speak of fish
and other useless gibberish,
Allow me please to cast a line
about this favoured theme of mine.
Our best-loved fish makes little sound,
it's always good to have around.
Lads should know this fella, why
it's Xiphophorus helleri! [1]
Rabbits though make stealthy ploys,
like changing speeds with little noise
So don't be startled by the modes
of ... Sssh! secret rabbit code! [2]
Nice one, and the references to libraries for Linux as well :)
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