11 Jan
2003
11 Jan
'03
8:43 p.m.
just a quick question (hopefully). In ardour I've been able to get a track to
playback while recording another track, but I can't seem to play more than
two tracks at a time, nor am I able to play two tracks while recording
another. Is this a ALSA/soundcard limitation (I have the intel 8x0 series)?
Okay, I lied, one more quick question... I've had ardour not play back samples
when recording and I can't seem to put my finger one what causes it to mute
the sample playback and what allows it to do duplex.
Thanks all
Jonathan
11 Jan
11 Jan
9:15 p.m.
Jonathan,
Ardour has a habit of assigning as many tracks as you have outputs to
physical outputs, and then maybe not assigning the rest of the, You need
to do it in the OUTPUT section of each track.
Possibly a better way to do this, should you be interested, is to
create a Audio Bus to sever as a Master Fader, and then assign the
outputs of all of your tracks to the input of that Audio Bus. YOu assign
the output of the Audio Bus to your outputs, Alsa:playback_1/2.
Good luck,
Mark
On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 16:29, Jonathan Turner wrote:
just a quick question (hopefully). In ardour I've
been able to get a track to
playback while recording another track, but I can't seem to play more than
two tracks at a time, nor am I able to play two tracks while recording
another. Is this a ALSA/soundcard limitation (I have the intel 8x0 series)?
Okay, I lied, one more quick question... I've had ardour not play back samples
when recording and I can't seem to put my finger one what causes it to mute
the sample playback and what allows it to do duplex.
Thanks all
Jonathan
11:24 p.m.
On Saturday 11 January 2003 20:10, Mark Knecht wrote:
Jonathan,
Ardour has a habit of assigning as many tracks as you have outputs to
physical outputs, and then maybe not assigning the rest of the, You need
to do it in the OUTPUT section of each track.
Possibly a better way to do this, should you be interested, is to
create a Audio Bus to sever as a Master Fader, and then assign the
outputs of all of your tracks to the input of that Audio Bus. YOu assign
the output of the Audio Bus to your outputs, Alsa:playback_1/2.
Good luck,
Mark
Thanks, I'm trying that now. Though, when I tried it I had problems with
Ardour's stability. Do you know of a stable date or version that I should
use for recording, or are they all fairly much "use at your own risk"?
Jonathan
12 Jan
12 Jan
12:44 p.m.
Mark,
On the documentation front - this is what I was wanting to see
documented. Can you describe how you set this up as part of your doc?
I haven't done this and I'd rather read it from someone who has than
struggle through it. I've been using envy24control which allows me to
do this using the digital mixer but there may be better ways that I
don't know about.
Jan
On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 19:10, Mark Knecht wrote:
Possibly a better way to do this, should you be interested, is to
create a Audio Bus to sever as a Master Fader, and then assign the
outputs of all of your tracks to the input of that Audio Bus. YOu assign
the output of the Audio Bus to your outputs, Alsa:playback_1/2.
1:05 p.m.
Hi,
Add two busses
Route the output of tracks, alsa_pcm:playback-N, to
ardour:busses_1,2. Route the output of the busses to
alsa_pcm:playback_1,2 (look in the Routing, Parameters
window and you'll see the Ardour ports).
This is a setup with which you can build stereo
fields. Hardpan ardour:busses_1,2 hard left and hard
right. Any tracks which are routed into
ardour:busses_1,2 can be be panned.
This should be useful for building submixes where
there's a limit on the total number of playback ports.
Extend the above by creating a master buss and several
sub-mix busses, e.g. drums, vox, keyboard, etc. Each
of the submix busses routes to the master buss.
I started a step-by-step ardour template howto section
for Routing From A to D to describe this but ran into
a bug and decided to drop the issue. I don't recall
what the bug was.
Ron
--- "Jan \"Evil Twin\" Depner"
<eviltwin69(a)cableone.net> wrote:
Mark,
On the documentation front - this is what I was
wanting to see
documented. Can you describe how you set this up as
part of your doc?
I haven't done this and I'd rather read it from
someone who has than
struggle through it. I've been using envy24control
which allows me to
do this using the digital mixer but there may be
better ways that I
don't know about.
Jan
On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 19:10, Mark Knecht wrote:
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Possibly a better way to do this, should you be
interested, is to
create a Audio Bus to sever as a Master Fader,
and
then assign the
outputs of all of your tracks to the input of
that
Audio Bus. YOu assign
the output of the Audio Bus to your outputs,
Alsa:playback_1/2.
2 p.m.
On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 08:37, Jan "Evil Twin" Depner wrote:
Mark,
On the documentation front - this is what I was wanting to see
documented. Can you describe how you set this up as part of your doc?
I haven't done this and I'd rather read it from someone who has than
struggle through it. I've been using envy24control which allows me to
do this using the digital mixer but there may be better ways that I
don't know about.
Jan
Jan,
Yeah, I should work on this, but just haven't gotten around to it.
I think there are a couple of issues to deal with here. In general
I'm not personally too concerned with latency, so I do everything in
software inside of Ardour. This is true, I think, for most people
working on MIDI composition with only a little live audio.
The advantage of doing it this way is that the should survive on
anyone's system. If you and I decided to work on a session together, I
could send you my session file and you'd get the same hookup. That's a
positive to me since I like working with other people.
In the case where we use system hardware, then it only works with
that hardware. For instance, it's my understanding that my RME has a
mixer, but the mixer is disabled because the driver developer doesn't
have enough info to turn it on. If you sent me some sort of setup for
your hardware, it wouldn't work for me (I think) since I don't have the
same hardware.
I also have some issues with Ardour not supporting a standard stereo
model that effects this stuff greatly. This frustrates me because really
any write up to explain Ardour today will be made completely obsolete
whenever Ardour does support stereo. (AFAICT)
Take care,
Mark
1:15 a.m.
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Jonathan Turner wrote:
just a quick question (hopefully). In ardour I've
been able to get a track to
playback while recording another track, but I can't seem to play more than
two tracks at a time, nor am I able to play two tracks while recording
another. Is this a ALSA/soundcard limitation (I have the intel 8x0 series)?
You probably have hardware monitoring enabled. When it is you will only
get the incoming signal of a recording track being output on that
channel.
To get the behavior you want, disable hardware monitoring in the
Edit/Options... dialog. You will then experience latency while
monitoring, but you should be able to hear everything. The latency is
dependent on the jackd '-p' frames-per-period size.
Okay, I lied, one more quick question... I've had
ardour not play back samples
when recording and I can't seem to put my finger one what causes it to mute
the sample playback and what allows it to do duplex.
This is probably related to what I described above.
As for stability, it is still day-by-day. There are more stable versions
in the past, but there are significant missing features. It is all pretty
bleeding edge right now but worth trying out. It is very difficult to
lose data even though it might crash.
jlc
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