16 Feb
2010
16 Feb
'10
6:40 a.m.
Quoting "Monty Montgomery" <xiphmont(a)gmail.com>om>:
My EQs: Audacity (though what's there now has
morphed since and is
known to be buggy from a few one-off bugs), Postfish and Beaverphonic
(this is a specialty application).
I've never heard of these. Do you have more information on them?
I coudn't find anything on beaverphonic and the SVN version I found of
postfish seemed to not co-operate with my system very well. Why no
jack support / how to enable jack support?
Sampo
16 Feb
16 Feb
3:13 p.m.
I coudn't find anything on beaverphonic and the
SVN version I found of
postfish seemed to not co-operate with my system very well. Why no
jack support / how to enable jack support?
Beaverphonic is not relevant here (it's a sound board application for
a specific theater group).
Postfish was an app I simply decided I had no time to do justice. I
never got as far as JACKifying it (at the time, JACK didn't seem to
want to run on any of my systems for more than about thirty seconds
without crashing) and it needs an automation interface to make it
useful as a monolithic effects bank. JACKing it would be easy, but
between a few bugs in the 'analog' sections that I never got around to
fixing, the challenge of an automation interface, and taking on
another project that would require supporting a large userbase, I
decided it wasn't something I had time for. I just use it myself and
never released it.
A few of the Audacity old-timers still use it, but it's been
unmaintained for around six years.
Monty
3:23 p.m.
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:13:38 -0500
From: Monty Montgomery <xiphmont(a)gmail.com>
Postfish...
A few of the Audacity old-timers still use it...
as do i.
thanks very much -- i consider it an indispensible part of my toolchest! mostly, i use the
declipper.
cheers!
--
.pltk.
3:40 p.m.
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:31:23 -0500
From: Monty Montgomery <xiphmont(a)gmail.com>
...I have a 64 bit NaN bug I need to fix in the declipper... I also
want some time to work on some declipper improvements I thought of a
few months ago...
very cool.... will you keep us posted here, or is there a better place to watch for news?
cheers!
--
.pltk.
4:23 p.m.
On 02/16/2010 08:13 PM, Monty Montgomery wrote:
Postfish was an app I simply decided I had no time to
do justice. I
never got as far as JACKifying it (at the time, JACK didn't seem to
want to run on any of my systems for more than about thirty seconds
without crashing) and it needs an automation interface to make it
useful as a monolithic effects bank. JACKing it would be easy, but
between a few bugs in the 'analog' sections that I never got around to
fixing, the challenge of an automation interface, and taking on
another project that would require supporting a large userbase, I
decided it wasn't something I had time for. I just use it myself and
never released it.
A few of the Audacity old-timers still use it, but it's been
unmaintained for around six years.
funny. i've been following the xiph svn tree for a while, to get the
latest theora stuff, and judging from the name, i always thought
postfish was some arcane brainchild of conrad parker's :-D never
compiled it, though...
huge kudos for the theora development, btw. last time i used it was lac
2009, and the quantum leap in quality and efficiency was really really
amazing. if only we could convince those industry dorks to make it a
mandatory part of html5...
(sticks a cardboard periscope on head, dances about and chants "i'm the
submarine patent threat")
best,
jörn
4:41 p.m.
Excerpts from Jörn Nettingsmeier's message of 2010-02-16 21:22:48 +0100:
On 02/16/2010 08:13 PM, Monty Montgomery wrote:
And one can get you with any format :)
Most concerns seem to go into the quality and filesize direction, so if
it got a lot better the information should be spread somehow.
Regards
Postfish was an app I simply decided I had no
time to do justice. I
never got as far as JACKifying it (at the time, JACK didn't seem to
want to run on any of my systems for more than about thirty seconds
without crashing) and it needs an automation interface to make it
useful as a monolithic effects bank. JACKing it would be easy, but
between a few bugs in the 'analog' sections that I never got around to
fixing, the challenge of an automation interface, and taking on
another project that would require supporting a large userbase, I
decided it wasn't something I had time for. I just use it myself and
never released it.
A few of the Audacity old-timers still use it, but it's been
unmaintained for around six years.
funny. i've been following the xiph svn tree for a while, to get the
latest theora stuff, and judging from the name, i always thought
postfish was some arcane brainchild of conrad parker's :-D never
compiled it, though...
huge kudos for the theora development, btw. last time i used it was lac
2009, and the quantum leap in quality and efficiency was really really
amazing. if only we could convince those industry dorks to make it a
mandatory part of html5...
(sticks a cardboard periscope on head, dances about and chants "i'm the
submarine patent threat")
best,
jörn
5:21 p.m.
New subject: theora and html5
On 02/16/2010 09:41 PM, hollunder wrote:
Excerpts from Jörn Nettingsmeier's message of
2010-02-16 21:22:48 +0100:
that should be really obvious to you and me. not so in corporate droid
brains...
(sticks a cardboard periscope on head, dances
about and chants "i'm the
submarine patent threat")
And one can get you with any format :) Most concerns seem to go into the quality and filesize
direction, so if
it got a lot better the information should be spread somehow.
well, it definitely got a lot better. it is still slightly inferior to
almost every proprietary codec out there, but guess what: i don't care,
because it's good enough for web content.
cpu is getting cheaper by second, bandwith even more so.
the trade-off between huge licensing costs for content creators, vendor
lock-in and closed-source plugin hassles on the one hand ("oh, you're
using $fooBSD? so sorry, we are not going to implement it, and we won't
let you do it, either") and a couple of cycles here and a few kbits
there doesn't really compute anymore.
many of the articles in wikipedia are demonstrably inferior to those in
<your favourite encyclopedia here> - still, the whole concept is so
immensely powerful that it has become my number one resource, while that
16-tome dead-tree-pulp monster from the early nineties is gathering dust
on my bookshelf.
to me, that same analogy holds for theora compared to <your favourite
codec here>. it's important to know the limitations (theora sure as hell
isn't going to replace blu-ray disks anytime soon), but for web, it
would work like a charm.
8:30 p.m.
New subject: theora and html5
Excerpts from nettings's message of 2010-02-16 22:20:54 +0100:
On 02/16/2010 09:41 PM, hollunder wrote:
I basically agree, so it's a matter of getting the information/opinion
out there. For me last years lac video quality was fine, and I was
watching it live (thanks ;)). I said that in a comment on some html
guy's html5/video blog that asked for opinion and I hope it helps in
some way.
The question really is: how do you demonstrate that theora is there? How
do you manage to get word out into the world that it actually is good
enough and has benefits?
Excerpts from Jörn Nettingsmeier's message of
2010-02-16 21:22:48 +0100:
that should be really obvious to you and me. not so in corporate droid
brains...
(sticks a cardboard periscope on head, dances
about and chants "i'm the
submarine patent threat")
And one can get you with any format :) Most concerns seem to go into the quality and
filesize direction, so if
it got a lot better the information should be spread somehow.
well, it definitely got a lot better. it is still slightly inferior to
almost every proprietary codec out there, but guess what: i don't care,
because it's good enough for web content.
cpu is getting cheaper by second, bandwith even more so.
the trade-off between huge licensing costs for content creators, vendor
lock-in and closed-source plugin hassles on the one hand ("oh, you're
using $fooBSD? so sorry, we are not going to implement it, and we won't
let you do it, either") and a couple of cycles here and a few kbits
there doesn't really compute anymore.
many of the articles in wikipedia are demonstrably inferior to those in
<your favourite encyclopedia here> - still, the whole concept is so
immensely powerful that it has become my number one resource, while that
16-tome dead-tree-pulp monster from the early nineties is gathering dust
on my bookshelf.
to me, that same analogy holds for theora compared to <your favourite
codec here>. it's important to know the limitations (theora sure as hell
isn't going to replace blu-ray disks anytime soon), but for web, it
would work like a charm. 
23 Feb
23 Feb
3:43 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 02:13:38PM -0500, Monty Montgomery wrote:
I thought beaverphonic was an app for sync'ing audio for porn movies?
/me ducks...
I coudn't
find anything on beaverphonic and the SVN version I found of
postfish seemed to not co-operate with my system very well. Why no
jack support / how to enable jack support?
Beaverphonic is not relevant here (it's a sound board application for
a specific theater group).
Postfish was an app I simply decided I had no time to do justice. I
never got as far as JACKifying it (at the time, JACK didn't seem to
want to run on any of my systems for more than about thirty seconds
without crashing) and it needs an automation interface to make it
useful as a monolithic effects bank. JACKing it would be easy, but
between a few bugs in the 'analog' sections that I never got around to
fixing, the challenge of an automation interface, and taking on
another project that would require supporting a large userbase, I
decided it wasn't something I had time for. I just use it myself and
never released it.
A few of the Audacity old-timers still use it, but it's been
unmaintained for around six years.
Monty
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