13 Dec
2003
13 Dec
'03
2:20 a.m.
Hi people
Apologies for interrupting with a rather basic
question.
I'm a new subscriber with a fondness for Cooledit. I'm
not currently a Linux user but am considering getting
a new ibook and installing linux on that.
However I was wondering if anyone could suggest an
editor/multitrack with a similar interface with
Cooledit to ease the transition woes.
I found Audacity (the PC version) a little difficult
to
maneouvre for my purposes. My current working method
involves using several large audio files (say 10-20
min each) and many more smaller ones which I then
splice into smaller sections (anything from 1 second
to 3 mins).I then rearrange these sections in the
multitrack screen.
Someone suggested Sweep in the archives. Is there
anything else anyone would suggest to minimise the
transition pain?
Any help much appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
aaron
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13 Dec
13 Dec
7:23 a.m.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 10:18:40PM -0800, r7 wrote:
Someone suggested Sweep in the archives. Is there
anything else anyone would suggest to minimise the
transition pain?
Sweep is unlikly to deal with that well - it holds all the audio data in
RAM. Audacity is probably closest to cooledit. If its missing features
you could try asking the developers - if could be that there working on
exactly the things you need.
You could go all-out and use ardour, which is more like protools than
cooledit, but will handle your arrangement needs well - if you can handle
the UI transition. http://ardour.sourceforge.net/
- Steve
7:42 a.m.
Hallo,
Steve Harris hat gesagt: // Steve Harris wrote:
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 10:18:40PM -0800, r7 wrote:
Also make sure to give Rezound a hard try. It's really cool.
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
Someone suggested Sweep in the archives. Is
there
anything else anyone would suggest to minimise the
transition pain?
Sweep is unlikly to deal with that well - it holds all the audio data in
RAM. Audacity is probably closest to cooledit. If its missing features
you could try asking the developers - if could be that there working on
exactly the things you need. 
10:19 a.m.
If you want to use Ardour I have some destructions on setting it up -
http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/ALSA_JACK_ARDOUR.html. They're a
bit dated but may be helpful. Also, if you're running Red Hat, do a
search for Planet CCRMA (I can't remember the URL at the moment). Once
you get that working you can try mastering with JAMin ;-) A word of
warning - getting low latency and a professional setup working is not
for the faint of heart. None of this is "push the button and it
installs" kind of stuff.
Jan
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 05:22, Steve Harris wrote:
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 10:18:40PM -0800, r7 wrote:
Someone suggested Sweep in the archives. Is
there
anything else anyone would suggest to minimise the
transition pain?
Sweep is unlikly to deal with that well - it holds all the audio data in
RAM. Audacity is probably closest to cooledit. If its missing features
you could try asking the developers - if could be that there working on
exactly the things you need.
You could go all-out and use ardour, which is more like protools than
cooledit, but will handle your arrangement needs well - if you can handle
the UI transition. http://ardour.sourceforge.net/
- Steve 
12:55 p.m.
It gives me an error 404 : The system cannot find the file specified.
thanx, piem
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 07:56:00AM -0600, Jan Depner wrote:
If you want to use Ardour I have some destructions on
setting it up -
http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/ALSA_JACK_ARDOUR.html. They're a
1:45 p.m.
it works for me, no problems here...
pls try again?
cau, ALEX
--- Paul Brossier <piem-lists(a)altern.org> wrote: > It
gives me an error 404 : The system cannot find
the file specified.
thanx, piem
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 07:56:00AM -0600, Jan Depner
wrote:
http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/ALSA_JACK_ARDOUR.html.
If you want to use Ardour I have some
destructions
on setting it up -
They're a
>
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2:41 p.m.
it's better here too know,
piem.
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 05:43:41PM +0000, Alex Timmer wrote:
it works for me, no problems here...
pls try again?
cau, ALEX
--- Paul Brossier <piem-lists(a)altern.org> wrote: > It
gives me an error 404 : The system cannot find
the file specified.
thanx, piem
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 07:56:00AM -0600, Jan Depner
wrote:
http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/ALSA_JACK_ARDOUR.html.
If you want to use Ardour I have some
destructions
on setting it up -
They're a
>
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10:21 p.m.
while this thread lives:
i too have been a cool edit user, but with a
digidesign M Box. i have been happy with audacity in
windows and can make that transition easily enough.
the work i do really needs only two tracks. now, if i
there were drivers for the mbox thing.
umashankar
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11:57 p.m.
Inspired by this thread, I did a quick lookup of Audacity,
and it appears that there is no Jack support.
Anyone? Is this right?
I realize that the developer seems to be working in a Microsoft environment -
hence Jack support isnt' a big priority. However, I suppose we should be
thankfull that this thing runs in Linux at all - I don't remember off-hand
what GUI Audacity uses, but I'm thankfull at least that portability to Linux
was kept in mind.
Nevertheless - until it has Jack support I'm not going to bother with it.
Sorry.
Larry
14 Dec
14 Dec
12:38 a.m.
Larry Troxler <lt(a)westnet.com> writes:
Nevertheless - until it has Jack support I'm not
going to bother with it.
Audacity uses PortAudio. The next PortAudio release (V19) includes
JACK support, so Audacity should work with JACK then. But, no one is
making any predictions about when that will be.
--
joq
15 Dec
15 Dec
7 a.m.
Audacity uses PortAudio. The next PortAudio release
(V19) includes
JACK support, so Audacity should work with JACK then. But, no one
is making any predictions about when that will be.
You can build the current release of Audacity from source with
PortAudio V19 as an option. Testing of Audacity with native ALSA
and/or JACK is something that the Audacity developers are looking for
feedback on, as it's a new feature.
Cheers
Daniel
11:15 a.m.
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Larry Troxler wrote:
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Cooledit substitutes?
Inspired by this thread, I did a quick lookup of Audacity,
and it appears that there is no Jack support.
Anyone? Is this right?
I realize that the developer seems to be working in a Microsoft environment -
hence Jack support isnt' a big priority. However, I suppose we should be
thankfull that this thing runs in Linux at all - I don't remember off-hand
what GUI Audacity uses, but I'm thankfull at least that portability to Linux
was kept in mind.
Nevertheless - until it has Jack support I'm not going to bother with it.
Sorry.
Larry
Actually, I think it's being actively developed on OSX and Linux with a
Windows port, but I could be wrong. Audacity seems to work well of you
follow the Wiki build instructions to get it to build with Portaudio and
to use Jack.
I've only just gotten my studio back together and hope to start beating on
it soon. In any event, the OSS emulation layer in ALSA works pretty well
with Audacity, not much lag when capturing all 4 channels from my Delta44.
Perhaps you should give it a shot?
// John Bleichert
// syborg(a)earthlink.net
11:37 a.m.
I think it's being actively developed on OSX and
Linux with a
Windows port
The lead developers do seem to use mostly Linux and OS X, but because
they are using a cross platform toolkit (wxwindows) I don't think
it's really a big deal to create the Windows binary for each release.
If you're interested I suggest you join the audacity-user mailing list
on sourceforge - it's friendly and helpful.
Cheers
Daniel
12:41 p.m.
John,
Do these words - "Audacity seems to work well..." - mean, there are
successful stories in using Audacity with jack server? I have tried both
(Audacity-1.2 and PortAudio-19) from CVS, replacing PortAudio lib while building
Audacity, without any success.
Andrew
======= On Mon December 15 2003 17:26, John Bleichert wrote: =======
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Larry Troxler wrote:
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Cooledit substitutes?
Inspired by this thread, I did a quick lookup of Audacity,
and it appears that there is no Jack support.
Anyone? Is this right?
I realize that the developer seems to be working in a Microsoft environment
- hence Jack support isnt' a big priority. However, I suppose we should be
thankfull that this thing runs in Linux at all - I don't remember off-hand
what GUI Audacity uses, but I'm thankfull at least that portability to
Linux was kept in mind.
Nevertheless - until it has Jack support I'm not going to bother with it.
Sorry.
Larry
Actually, I think it's being actively developed on OSX and Linux with a
Windows port, but I could be wrong. Audacity seems to work well of you
follow the Wiki build instructions to get it to build with Portaudio and
to use Jack.
I've only just gotten my studio back together and hope to start beating on
it soon. In any event, the OSS emulation layer in ALSA works pretty well
with Audacity, not much lag when capturing all 4 channels from my Delta44.
Perhaps you should give it a shot?
// John Bleichert
// syborg(a)earthlink.net
12:59 p.m.
I've had problems with PortAudio-19 in my own code seperately from Audacity,
I'll try to get a bug report to the portaudio people, but I couldn't get it to
connect to the server (and it seemed to break OSS compatibility too).
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:34:42 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote
John,
Do these words - "Audacity seems to work well..." - mean, there are
successful stories in using Audacity with jack server? I have tried both
(Audacity-1.2 and PortAudio-19) from CVS, replacing PortAudio lib
while building Audacity, without any success.
Andrew
======= On Mon December 15 2003 17:26, John Bleichert wrote: =======
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Larry Troxler wrote:
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Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Cooledit
substitutes?
Inspired by this thread, I did a quick lookup of Audacity,
and it appears that there is no Jack support.
Anyone? Is this right?
I realize that the developer seems to be working in a Microsoft environment
- hence Jack support isnt' a big priority. However, I suppose we should be
thankfull that this thing runs in Linux at all - I don't remember off-hand
what GUI Audacity uses, but I'm thankfull at least that portability to
Linux was kept in mind.
Nevertheless - until it has Jack support I'm not going to bother with it.
Sorry.
Larry
Actually, I think it's being actively developed on OSX and Linux
with a Windows port, but I could be wrong. Audacity seems to work
well of you follow the Wiki build instructions to get it to build
with Portaudio and to use Jack.
I've only just gotten my studio back together and hope to start
beating on it soon. In any event, the OSS emulation layer in ALSA
works pretty well with Audacity, not much lag when capturing all 4
channels from my Delta44. Perhaps you should give it a shot?
// John Bleichert
// syborg(a)earthlink.net
1:32 p.m.
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
John,
Do these words - "Audacity seems to work well..." - mean, there are
successful stories in using Audacity with jack server? I have tried both
(Audacity-1.2 and PortAudio-19) from CVS, replacing PortAudio lib while building
Audacity, without any success.
Andrew
hehe - no, they mean it seemed to work for me but I haven't had a chance
to play with it fully yet. (I missed most of the rest of this thread so my
OP was sort of out of sync, sorry.)
======= On Mon December 15 2003 17:26, John Bleichert
wrote: =======
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Larry Troxler wrote:
// John Bleichert
// syborg(a)earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Cooledit
substitutes?
Inspired by this thread, I did a quick lookup of Audacity,
and it appears that there is no Jack support.
Anyone? Is this right?
I realize that the developer seems to be working in a Microsoft environment
- hence Jack support isnt' a big priority. However, I suppose we should be
thankfull that this thing runs in Linux at all - I don't remember off-hand
what GUI Audacity uses, but I'm thankfull at least that portability to
Linux was kept in mind.
Nevertheless - until it has Jack support I'm not going to bother with it.
Sorry.
Larry
Actually, I think it's being actively developed on OSX and Linux with a
Windows port, but I could be wrong. Audacity seems to work well of you
follow the Wiki build instructions to get it to build with Portaudio and
to use Jack.
I've only just gotten my studio back together and hope to start beating on
it soon. In any event, the OSS emulation layer in ALSA works pretty well
with Audacity, not much lag when capturing all 4 channels from my Delta44.
Perhaps you should give it a shot?
// John Bleichert
// syborg(a)earthlink.net
14 Dec
14 Dec
2:13 a.m.
Weird. It works for me. I just clicked on the link and it came up.
Jan
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 10:53, Paul Brossier wrote:
It gives me an error 404 : The system cannot find the
file specified.
thanx, piem
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 07:56:00AM -0600, Jan Depner wrote:
> If you want to use Ardour I have some destructions on setting it up -
> http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/ALSA_JACK_ARDOUR.html. They're a
>
>
>
3:40 a.m.
On Saturday 13 December 2003 10:53 am, Paul Brossier wrote:
It gives me an error 404 : The system cannot find the
file specified.
thanx, piem
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 07:56:00AM -0600, Jan Depner wrote:
> If you want to use Ardour I have some destructions on setting it up -
> http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/ALSA_JACK_ARDOUR.html. They're a
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13 Dec
13 Dec
2:49 p.m.
most of these packages are now in debian, so they should work fine on an
ibook too. there is also snd, but not sure about its transition time :)
piem
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 07:56:00AM -0600, Jan Depner wrote:
If you want to use Ardour I have some destructions on
setting it up -
http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/ALSA_JACK_ARDOUR.html. They're a
bit dated but may be helpful. >
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