13 Jan
2007
13 Jan
'07
8:37 p.m.
Now that demudi.agnula.org seems to have been taken over, is there any
other site that has a copy of this distribution?
Is it wise at this point to continue using it? I just recently installed
it, so I'm not overly comitted to it yet.
I'm looking for a distribution that would be suitable for a rackmount
PC-based synthesizer that I can take to occasional gigs.
DeMuDi seems to fit the bill, because it is nice and trimmed down, as
opposed to (I suspect) Planet CCRMA.
Larry
13 Jan
13 Jan
8:55 p.m.
Larry Troxler wrote:
Now that demudi.agnula.org seems to have been taken
over,
I'd say more like someone neglected to renew the domain name.
is there any
other site that has a copy of this distribution?
That would be nice - any mirrors?
I checked the Wayback Machine - <http://www.waybackmachine.org> - where
it has the text content and such, but not the ISOs.
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14 Jan
14 Jan
2:55 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: DeMuDi status? Distribution for gig synth?
Larry Troxler <lt(a)westnet.com> writes:
Now that demudi.agnula.org seems to have been taken
over, is there any
other site that has a copy of this distribution?
http://www.agnula.info/
Robert Epprecht
3:02 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: DeMuDi status? Distribution for gig synth?
Robert Epprecht wrote:
Larry Troxler <lt(a)westnet.com> writes:
Hurrah!
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Now that demudi.agnula.org seems to have been
taken over, is there any
other site that has a copy of this distribution?
http://www.agnula.info/
11:45 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: DeMuDi status? Distribution for gig synth?
Robert Epprecht wrote:
Thanks. So then, what would be the URL for the packages (apt-get)?
Larry
12:01 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: DeMuDi status? Distribution for gig synth?
Larry Troxler wrote:
Robert Epprecht wrote:
Thanks. So then, what would be the URL for the packages (apt-get)?
Ok, it's actually http://demudi.agnula.info/ . This looks to be the same
as the ".org" site, so I guess the package URLs start with
demudi.agnula.info .
Larry Troxler
7:09 a.m.
Hallo,
Larry Troxler hat gesagt: // Larry Troxler wrote:
Now that demudi.agnula.org seems to have been taken
over, is there any
other site that has a copy of this distribution?
The domain was grabbed, but I think, it was grabbed back again, so it
may come up again. Other that that there also is agnula.info now.
Is it wise at this point to continue using it? I just
recently installed
it, so I'm not overly comitted to it yet.
Most of the packages and work for Demudi has already found its way
back into standard Debian, which was one of the goals of Demudi. So
personally I would go with a normal standard Debian testing install.
The only thing missing in Debian is a specialized audio kernel (the
standard Debian kernel doesn't even have preemtion enabled), so you
may want to build your own kernel. THis is described in much detail
here: http://demudi.agnula.info/wiki/Low-latencyKernelBuildingHowto
Ciao
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11:56 a.m.
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Most of the packages and work for Demudi has already
found its way
back into standard Debian, which was one of the goals of Demudi. So
personally I would go with a normal standard Debian testing install.
The only thing missing in Debian is a specialized audio kernel (the
standard Debian kernel doesn't even have preemtion enabled), so you
may want to build your own kernel. THis is described in much detail
here: http://demudi.agnula.info/wiki/Low-latencyKernelBuildingHowto
Ciao
Thanks Frank, for the information that most of the DeMuDi packages are
in standard Debian. However, one of my goals is to limit the time I need
to spend in setup and configuration. And it seems that there would be a
bit of work in trimming out all of the debian apps that I don't need,
and in other customizations, like tuning the disk cache, cron jobs, even
window manager configuration, etc.
That being said, I have never actually installed or even sat in front of
a standard Debian system, so feel free to correct any misunderstandings
I have.
Larry Troxler
noon
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:56:44 -0500
Larry Troxler <lt(a)westnet.com> wrote:
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Have you tried 64studio?
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Most of the packages and work for Demudi has
already found its way
back into standard Debian, which was one of the goals of Demudi. So
personally I would go with a normal standard Debian testing install.
The only thing missing in Debian is a specialized audio kernel (the
standard Debian kernel doesn't even have preemtion enabled), so you
may want to build your own kernel. THis is described in much detail
here: http://demudi.agnula.info/wiki/Low-latencyKernelBuildingHowto
Ciao
Thanks Frank, for the information that most of the DeMuDi packages are
in standard Debian. However, one of my goals is to limit the time I need
to spend in setup and configuration. And it seems that there would be a
bit of work in trimming out all of the debian apps that I don't need,
and in other customizations, like tuning the disk cache, cron jobs, even
window manager configuration, etc.
That being said, I have never actually installed or even sat in front of
a standard Debian system, so feel free to correct any misunderstandings
I have.
Larry Troxler 
3:47 p.m.
hi Larry,
No, I was afraid it might be a little too new and
unstable, and I am
still afraid of any possible glitches in running in 64 bit mode.
Am I being too afraid?
running 64studio here, things are pretty stable for me, running on an
amd64 dual core
ciao,
Marco
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4:04 p.m.
Larry Troxler wrote:
Folderol wrote:
I've been using it as my primary system for a while, I like it. It's
installed on a box with an AMD64 3200.
I also plan to install the 32-bit version on a new machine.
Best,
dp
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:56:44 -0500
Have you tried 64studio?
No, I was afraid it might be a little too new and unstable, and I am
still afraid of any possible glitches in running in 64 bit mode.
Am I being too afraid?
4:18 p.m.
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:43:45 -0500
Larry Troxler <lt(a)westnet.com> wrote:
Folderol wrote:
it runs quite stable for me on an AMD sempron, also the 32bit version
runs happily on an older 32bit athlon.
There are other issues I have which mean I will be moving up to a dual
core beastie, hopefully in the not to distant future, but that's no
fault of 64studio.
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:56:44 -0500
Have you tried 64studio?
No, I was afraid it might be a little too new and unstable, and I am
still afraid of any possible glitches in running in 64 bit mode.
Am I being too afraid?
Larry Troxler 
4:44 p.m.
2007/1/14, Larry Troxler <lt(a)westnet.com>om>:
Folderol wrote:
Yes.
I am running 64bit linux with (semi-)professional audio since more
then a year without a glitch.
Arnold
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:56:44 -0500
Have you tried 64studio?
No, I was afraid it might be a little too new and
unstable, and I am
still afraid of any possible glitches in running in 64 bit mode.
Am I being too afraid?
20 Jan
20 Jan
2:47 p.m.
Arnold Krille wrote:
2007/1/14, Larry Troxler <lt(a)westnet.com>om>:
Ok, I'm putting a new machine together and I will try 64 studio in 64
bit mode. Thanks everyone for the advice!
Larry
Folderol wrote:
Yes.
I am running 64bit linux with (semi-)professional audio since more
then a year without a glitch.
Arnold
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:56:44 -0500
Have you tried 64studio?
No, I was afraid it might be a little too new and
unstable, and I am
still afraid of any possible glitches in running in 64 bit mode.
Am I being too afraid? 
14 Jan
14 Jan
4:55 p.m.
I am running 64Studio on an AMD Turion laptop in 64Bit mode and love how
low I can set the latency without gettings XRuns. Only annoying thing
that there is no libjack-dev so new Jack applications can't be compiled
but I hope it is fixed soon. But many Jack applications like Ardour,
Jamin, Hydrogen, AMS etc are already available in the repos.
Cheers,
Malte
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5 p.m.
No, I was afraid it might be a little too new and
unstable, and I am
still afraid of any possible glitches in running in 64 bit mode.
Am I being too afraid?
Larry Troxler
Hi,
I'm running the 32 bit version on a AMD XP2200+ and it's really stable
(I was a Demudi user before and I prefer 64Studio, it's really simple to
install and customize with Debian unstable sources).
Cheers.
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12:52 p.m.
Hallo,
Larry Troxler hat gesagt: // Larry Troxler wrote:
Thanks Frank, for the information that most of the
DeMuDi packages are
in standard Debian. However, one of my goals is to limit the time I need
to spend in setup and configuration. And it seems that there would be a
bit of work in trimming out all of the debian apps that I don't need,
and in other customizations, like tuning the disk cache, cron jobs, even
window manager configuration, etc.
Debian doesn't install all packages it provides (which would be way
too many packages anyway). You can install a very minimal Debian
system and work up your way from there. Actually I would recommend to
go that route anyway, as you surely would want to run a Debian
"testing" system, which you can get to by installing a "stable"
minimal, and then upgrading.
Of course the more minimal your system is, the more customization you
need to to by hand, but Debian preserves customizations during
upgrades as good as possible. That's actually the nice thing about
Debian: YOu just install it once, then you only need to do upgrade
(I'm doing this for several years now on my main machine.)
Another approach here might be Ubuntu, which is largely preconfigured.
However I'm not a big Ubuntu fan and I just went through the not
completely painfree task of converting my Ubuntu laptop to a real
Debian laptop again by cross-upgrading.
Ciao
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4:25 p.m.
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Larry Troxler hat gesagt: // Larry Troxler wrote:
Another approach here might be Ubuntu, which is largely preconfigured.
However I'm not a big Ubuntu fan and I just went through the not
completely painfree task of converting my Ubuntu laptop to a real
Debian laptop again by cross-upgrading.
Ciao
Well since Ubuntu is designed to be friendly for the casual user
familiar with Microsoft's OS, I assume it must have the type of
graphical configuration front ends that RedHat and Suse, for example have.
And what I like about DeMuDi is that it doesn't have these front ends.
You just directly edit the /etc files. That's good I think for something
I'm going to put in a black box synth.
So that I guess is the reason I didn't consider Ubuntu.
Larry Troxler
5:26 p.m.
Hallo,
Larry Troxler hat gesagt: // Larry Troxler wrote:
Well since Ubuntu is designed to be friendly for the
casual user
familiar with Microsoft's OS, I assume it must have the type of
graphical configuration front ends that RedHat and Suse, for example have.
And what I like about DeMuDi is that it doesn't have these front ends.
Ubuntu is mostly using the Gnome (or KDE) tools for this. The tools
are available for Debian as well, if you want them. However I was
never really using them as I, like you, prefer to fire up a text
editor.
Ciao
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20 Jan
20 Jan
2:52 p.m.
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Larry Troxler hat gesagt: // Larry Troxler wrote:
Well, it's not exactly that I prefer using a text editor. Rather, it's a
few other things:
1) These GUI configurations are different with each distribution (at
least, I think they are), so that if there is a smaller user base
supporting each of them.
2) When something invariably goes wrong, it's necessary to find out
what's going on behind the scenes anyway during the course of debugging.
3) Scripting
4) Size. I was for a time thinking of running from a flash card, and it
wouldn't make sense to crowd the flash with GUI configuration tools.
Larry
Well since Ubuntu is designed to be friendly for
the casual user
familiar with Microsoft's OS, I assume it must have the type of
graphical configuration front ends that RedHat and Suse, for example have.
And what I like about DeMuDi is that it doesn't have these front ends.
Ubuntu is mostly using the Gnome (or KDE) tools for this. The tools
are available for Debian as well, if you want them. However I was
never really using them as I, like you, prefer to fire up a text
editor.
Ciao 
30 Jan
30 Jan
5:26 a.m.
try musix, its a great distro ;-)
On 1/20/07, Larry Troxler <lt(a)westnet.com> wrote:
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Well, it's not exactly that I prefer using a text editor. Rather, it's a
few other things:
1) These GUI configurations are different with each distribution (at
least, I think they are), so that if there is a smaller user base
supporting each of them.
2) When something invariably goes wrong, it's necessary to find out
what's going on behind the scenes anyway during the course of debugging.
3) Scripting
4) Size. I was for a time thinking of running from a flash card, and it
wouldn't make sense to crowd the flash with GUI configuration tools.
Larry
Hallo,
Larry Troxler hat gesagt: // Larry Troxler wrote:
> Well since Ubuntu is designed to be friendly for the casual user
> familiar with Microsoft's OS, I assume it must have the type of
> graphical configuration front ends that RedHat and Suse, for example
have.
And what I like about DeMuDi is that it doesn't have these front ends.
Ubuntu is mostly using the Gnome (or KDE) tools for this. The tools
are available for Debian as well, if you want them. However I was
never really using them as I, like you, prefer to fire up a text
editor.
Ciao 
14 Jan
14 Jan
12:01 p.m.
Frank Barknecht schrieb:
The only thing missing in Debian is a specialized
audio kernel (the
standard Debian kernel doesn't even have preemtion enabled), so you
may want to build your own kernel. THis is described in much detail
here: http://demudi.agnula.info/wiki/Low-latencyKernelBuildingHowto
A fairly recent low latency kernel is available from 64studio.com. Use
this line in /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://archive.64studio.com/ custom main
Cheers,
Andreas
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