On Wednesday 11 August 2004 09:51 am, Mark Wilson wrote:
Date: Wed, 11
Aug 2004 01:50:15 -0400
From: John Check <j4strngs(a)bitless.net
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] I'm tired of being a
moron
To: A list for linux audio users
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You are correct, Sir. Your best option with that
card and MusE are the
softsynths.
Unfortunately, that chipset is really not good for
duplex operation, or even
overdubbing.
The problem is (at least on any one I've had any
truck with) the sample rate
is off by 1 on the capture side. Playback is
44.1kHz. The net effect is your
program length will be off by about 2 seconds for
every hour.
OK, sorry to be doling out info pieces at a time.
This morning I tried starting muse from a term window
after starting timidity -iA
You don't say if you're using a sound daemon like arts or esd
(KDE and GNOME, respectively) but I'm pretty sure that card
can only handle two input streams. By that, I mean timidity will block
any other programs trying to use /dev/dsp
(arts & esd are ways around this, but they kill latency)... err...
As soon as I try to import a midi file, the muse
display starts to lose all its buttons and the menus
don't respond and all the areas of the window turn
into useless blocks of nonresponsive vague colored
areas-- you know the look.
Forgive me if I'm hazy on the details, but is your problem with importing or
getting sounds to play? My suggestions:
Forget about timidity and use MusE internal sofsynths
Do a few bars of step recording
Play it back.
IOW get playback first because whats happening when you import MIDI may
be a different issue entirely.
I checked the term window for messages and saw only:
open projectfile: No such file or directory
no JACK audio server found
Um.. I forgot what version you're using but 0.7 needs jack. The 0.6's don't
but I really have to recommend against those.
NO Config File </root/.MusE>
Not an error,
just a warning
ALSA: samplerate 44100 not available, using 44099
See? ^ Thats what I was talking about with the sample rate.
It's got nothing to do with you current problem.
cca_open_socket: could not connect to host
'localhost', service '14541'
cca_init: could not connect to server 'localhost' -
disabling ladcca
Another warning that's not apropos to the problem
After killing it, I decided to try at least
'touch /root/.MusE'
knowing that an empty config file really wasn't going
to do the trick, but I thought maybe if there was
somewhere for Muse to starting recording settings,
that seemed as good as anything.
At one point this morning I *did* succeed in getting
muse to load the midi file without crashing, even
though I still heard nothing. (yes, I've checked my
mixer settings--no channels muted, and everything at
least at non-zero).
You _are_ loading patches into timidity, right?
This "success" came after messing around
with what I
think is qjackctl, trying to hook up the ens1371 in
the left column with one of the timidity ports in the
right column.
MIDI ports or audio ports? MIDI doesn't make any noise,
so even if you've got the MIDI ports connected you won't hear anything until
the audio ports are connected. You can do this in qjackctl's patchbay
MusE output to alsa_playback
When I pressed the play button in muse, I could see
all these bars for each track moving around, but no
sound. Hey, it least it didn't crash utterly that
time! I feel like I'm getting warmer somehow...
-Mark
Okay.. IIRC MusE doesn't patch itself to the alsa playback ports by default.
If you don't patch it elsewhere, you have to go to the mixer and click on the
"output" button (or "out" or possibly right click, I don't have a
running
copy in front of me) and connect
Note, the order in which you fire things up is important if you're using jack.
This is probably better asked on the MusE list
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