On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:11:09 +1000, Mark Constable <markc(a)renta.net> wrote: Why? Unless you want to provide the hard drive space and the bandwidth I don't think so. I guess the name gets changed by the server, that isn't what I called it.

Yes, using jack and jack transport...oh gosh - it's late and I can't think of the steps for some reason - basicallly, make hydrogen the jack transport slave, make ardour the jack transport master, and hydrogen should play when ardour plays. But the other thing I thought I'd mention, since I've seen this question quite a bit, is my method. I don't do this sync hydrogen to ardour thing usually - it's incredibly shaky a configuration compared to exporting a .wav version of the drum track from hydrogen and importing that into ardour The other advantage to that other than your mix down being all in one spot, which is really what you want, is that hydrogen makes a perfectly spliced little export so you have this amazingly easy cut and paste action available in Ardour, if you use the snap to function That all said, I'll sync 'em if I'm going to do something, for example, like run a hydrogen track through a tube amp or something and record that new track into ardour... ----- Original Message ----- From: <ish(a)sarai.net> To: <linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:59 PM Subject: [linux-audio-user] Ardour + Hydrogen : sync Together

On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 07:59:59AM +0100, ish(a)sarai.net wrote: I trace the Ardour manual by RSS-feed and I saw this one a couple of days ago. http://ardour.org/manual/synchronizing_ardour_with_hydrogen - Bengan -------------------------------------------------------------- - KTHNOC/SUNET/NORDUnet | http://www.sunet.se/~bengan | +46 8 7906586 -

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:29:11 -0500, Allan Wind <allan_wind(a)lifeintegrity.com> wrote: No, he didn't. Well, two things. First, you can still listen if you want. Second, imho that is pretty lame...like I said, unless you are willing to provide the bandwidth and harddrive space for the same price... Sound click is neither intrusive nor malevolent. They provide a pretty decent service to the community for free. The only thing they want is a login name. This is probably to save on bandwidth, those unwilling to participate in the community don't get any. Many other sites do the same thing; if they allowed downloads without an account it would tripple the requirements of their systems...why the expense for a bunch of dorks that don't want to be a part of what is going on? I only got one spam through soundclick and they took care of it instantly. It wasn't their fault and they behaved appropriately when it happened. You can ask nothing more from a service like them. They obviously do not sell their account information to third parties. I'm sorry, but when a company offers something free like soundclick does it is pretty lame to complain about them wanting login accounts to use it. Everyone else charges their artists or provide limited space. Soundclick does neither. IMHO they deserve some kudo's for that, not a bunch of complaining because they want login accounts...that is just stupid and selfish. No, I am proud to be an artist on soundclick's website. If you don't like it you don't get to download my music. I am not going to let that bother me too much.

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 06:03:59 +1000, Mark Constable <markc(a)renta.net> wrote: If you are not offering anything anymore then you don't have anything to offer now do you. I gave at least one reason...you clipped it. Second, you CAN just listen!! What you can't do is download. They provide a low-bandwidth stream for people who can't be bothered to sign up. Seems rather logical if the reason I gave is indeed the reason they do it. Actually, this is your problem. The music I make is provided free of charge and easily accessed in at least 3 formats. If, for some insain reason you have yet to provide, you do not want to access it I don't see how that is any problem of mine. Didn't make my music for you anyway. If you want to listen, great, if not well...so what? Tell me why I should care. There is NOTHING stopping you from doing so, except perhapse some stupid stubborness on your part. Still not my problem. Needless to say, though apparently I still need to say it, I provided my songs to the public so that those that WANT to can listen. I also posted to this list for those that WANT to listen. Those that don't need not give lectures about my using soundclick to publish my works. In my opinion you are full of shit on that subject anyway. Your refusal to listen isn't going to make me change providers; for one thing there are no reasonable alternatives.

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:51:06 +1000, Shayne O'Connor <forums(a)machinehasnoagenda.com> wrote: I get more bandwidth, more space, and more services for free right now.

On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 15:51, Shayne O'Connor wrote: Shayne, assuming a quarter is 3 months, that's more like less than a buck a week. Can you point me to the outfit you're using? You can reply offline if you'd like. Jan

How so? "we will never make any of this information available to others without your consent (see privacy policy for details)" How then, are they making money off of your username? At worst their software tracks your preferences and uses it for providing the best ads in the website when you visit, but it probably does this anyway...much like gmail. Perhapse they have better negotiating powers with more signups. I think that is about as far as you can reach with that. "Registered members enjoy lots of benefits like winning mp3 players, your own My.SoundClick account with your playlists, you can vote for your favorite bands, post your opinions on message boards and much more." In other words, participate in a community. Community members get the works. Those just passing through don't get as much. Here is the required "private information about yourself" you must provide: * username * password * email * country The rest is optional. The first two are obvious necessities. The third to make sure you are a real person (otherwise spammers can get accounts and use them to fuck with other users). I don't know why they want country but it isn't a major concern...lie if you want. They can get it from your IP anyway...if you are THAT paranoid you shouldn't be on the Internet at all; otherwise you are just kidding yourself. i mean, if you're posting Well, you won't get a "save to..." box but you will see links to lo-fi streams. If you want more you have to do more...and not a whole lot more really. Good. Then stick with the stream or don't listen at all. (Yeah, I was wrong...this is even stupider than I thought. You can listen to the hi-fi stream without signing up!!!) That seems pretty simple to me. When you start providing the same service they do for free I might see you as something other than a snot nosed brat. How so? ?

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:02:37 +1000, Shayne O'Connor <forums(a)machinehasnoagenda.com> wrote: Pointless. You can't expect someone to continue providing hundreds to thousands of dollars per month of free service without being able to somehow get some of that money back. It just isn't possible to do that. If having a high count of subscribers helps them do that then great; there is absolutely nothing wrong with that if they are not releasing personal information, which they have promised not to do in their privacy agreement (and I have no reason to believe they have, or would, break that agreement). It does not harm the user in any way imaginable. Do you? I provided a link to all streams. This is edging on just plain lazyness. Goodbye.

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:53:21 -0500, Allan Wind <allan_wind(a)lifeintegrity.com> wrote: That is fine. If you don't want to register you don't have to. You can listen to the hi-fi stream all you want. You can use xmms to save that stream to disk if you so desire. If you don't want to register, there is nothing that says you must. I don't like being lectured about soundclick. They provide a great service to me not offered by ANYONE else. "Please provide these someplace else," is what is rude, and pointless. They all should be...and I see that they are. He didn't offer any service from what I can see. All he did was complain about the one I use and say he "used to" provide space but no longer does. Not very helpful, that. Yes, when people are rude to me, I am rude back. Sorry that offends you. I did nothing wrong in offering my music on soundclick. I don't need, nor deserve, to be lectured about that. If you want to ride on a high horse about it, please keep it to yourself.