12 Apr
2008
12 Apr
'08
2:19 p.m.
Hi!
I have a kind of obscure problem regarding my Delta 1010. It worked fine until
last night. I did a system update that didn't touch alsa, jack, the kernel or
anything. the only packages that had something to do with sound at all were
libsoundtouch and ardour. But since that update, i have no analogue output
anymore. Since I don't have any equipment that has a digitial in i cannot test
that, but MIDI still works fine. I wondered before that everything worked
without an /etc/asound.conf file, so I wrote one. But as soon as i write
_anything_ in it (be it just "pcm.!default {type hw card 0}"), all the output i
get from any media player is that signed 16 bit little endian samples aren't
supported by the hardware. Without an asound.conf, i get no errors at all, but
also no output. envy24control also shows nothing, and jackd runs until i try to
output audio, then it crashes with "cannot access hardware"-messages. i've
already updated the kernel from 2.6.23 to 2.6.24, but that doesn't make any
difference.
I already reinstalled everything that has to do with alsa, but that also made no
difference.
I am using gentoo amd64, currently on 2.6.24-gentoo-r3, alsa 1.0.14.
I'd welcome any idea.
Greetings,
Thomas
12 Apr
12 Apr
2:29 p.m.
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Thomas Janu <chaos(a)sieglitzhof.net> wrote:
I have a kind of obscure problem regarding my Delta
1010. It worked fine until
last night. I did a system update that didn't touch alsa, jack, the kernel or
anything. the only packages that had something to do with sound at all were
libsoundtouch and ardour. But since that update, i have no analogue output
anymore. Since I don't have any equipment that has a digitial in i cannot test
that, but MIDI still works fine. I wondered before that everything worked
without an /etc/asound.conf file, so I wrote one. But as soon as i write
_anything_ in it (be it just "pcm.!default {type hw card 0}"), all the output
i
get from any media player is that signed 16 bit little endian samples aren't
supported by the hardware. Without an asound.conf, i get no errors at all, but
also no output. envy24control also shows nothing, and jackd runs until i try to
output audio, then it crashes with "cannot access hardware"-messages.
i've
already updated the kernel from 2.6.23 to 2.6.24, but that doesn't make any
difference.
I already reinstalled everything that has to do with alsa, but that also made no
difference.
I suspect a hardware failure -- I had a delta1010 go out on me several
weeks ago for no apparent reason. Some searches around the net
revealed that these things are susceptible to an onboard component
blowing out (usually a capacitor). The machine it was on dual-booted
to Windows and it also no longer worked there -- all I got was a 60 Hz
hum on both OSes.
-- Brett
------------------------------------------------------------
"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden;
If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
2:44 p.m.
Hi!
I suspect a hardware failure -- I had a delta1010 go
out on me several
weeks ago for no apparent reason. Some searches around the net
revealed that these things are susceptible to an onboard component
blowing out (usually a capacitor). The machine it was on dual-booted
to Windows and it also no longer worked there -- all I got was a 60 Hz
hum on both OSes.
That would be most unfortunate :-( I still have a windows installed on this
nachine to and just returned "to an OS" from booting it, and you're right,
it
also doesn't work in windows :-(
I guess I have to look if i still have support for that thing...
Greetings,
Thomas
2:48 p.m.
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Thomas Janu <chaos(a)sieglitzhof.net> wrote:
That would be most unfortunate :-( I still have a
windows installed on this
nachine to and just returned "to an OS" from booting it, and you're right,
it
also doesn't work in windows :-(
I guess I have to look if i still have support for that thing...
I ended up upgrading my hardware to RME (an expensive option, to be
sure) and donating my old Delta1010 unit to a worthy cause. :-)
-- Brett
------------------------------------------------------------
"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden;
If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
4:24 p.m.
On 12 April 2008 at 12:48, "Brett McCoy" <idragosani(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I ended up upgrading my hardware to RME (an expensive
option, to be
sure) and donating my old Delta1010 unit to a worthy cause. :-)
I've heard, maybe here, that the newer RME firmware is incompatible
with ALSA and that no work is going on with ALSA to rectify this,
maybe in part caused by RME being closed about their design. Is your
RME new or old? Does it work fine?
Hmmm...
--
Kevin
4:27 p.m.
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Kevin Cosgrove <kevinc(a)cosgroves.us> wrote:
The Firewire RME hardware won't work with Linux. The PCI HDSP hardware
works wonderfully under Linux. I'm using a Multiface II
-- Brett
------------------------------------------------------------
"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden;
If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
I ended up
upgrading my hardware to RME (an expensive option, to be
sure) and donating my old Delta1010 unit to a worthy cause. :-)
I've heard, maybe here, that the newer RME firmware is incompatible
with ALSA and that no work is going on with ALSA to rectify this,
maybe in part caused by RME being closed about their design. Is your
RME new or old? Does it work fine?
6:05 p.m.
On 12 April 2008 at 14:26, "Brett McCoy" <idragosani(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Kevin Cosgrove
<kevinc(a)cosgroves.us> wrote:
The Firewire RME hardware won't work with Linux. The PCI HDSP hardware
works wonderfully under Linux. I'm using a Multiface II
I knew about the RME firewire situation. But, I heard that the newer
firmware in newer RME non-firewire gear was also problematic, even in
units that used to be the best options for Linux. Is your HDSP stuff
new or old?
Thanks....
--
Kevin
I ended
up upgrading my hardware to RME (an expensive option, to be
sure) and donating my old Delta1010 unit to a worthy cause. :-)
I've heard, maybe here, that the newer RME firmware is incompatible
with ALSA and that no work is going on with ALSA to rectify this,
maybe in part caused by RME being closed about their design. Is your
RME new or old? Does it work fine?
7:08 p.m.
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Kevin Cosgrove <kevinc(a)cosgroves.us> wrote:
I knew about the RME firewire situation. But, I
heard that the newer
firmware in newer RME non-firewire gear was also problematic, even in
units that used to be the best options for Linux. Is your HDSP stuff
new or old?
Brand new, I even updated the firmware recently (via Windows). No
problems whatsoever.
-- Brett
------------------------------------------------------------
"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden;
If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
3:23 p.m.
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:44:41 +0200
Thomas Janu <chaos(a)sieglitzhof.net> wrote:
Brett wrote:
Thomas, if you don't, it's quite possible someone with a bit of experience
with a soldering iron can fix. I am writing up a website on it, but have
not completed it pending some work with the pix I took.
There's a lot of stuff that's searchable on the 1010 and capacitors. Caps
usually fail visibly, so look for the ones on the lower circuit board that
might look burned or as if they'd leaked.
I've fixed 2 1010s with bad caps so far, so don't give up on the unit just
yet! I'll see if I can't get the photos soon to finish up that writeup, and
the one on connecting 2 1010s together.
--
======================================================================
Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh(a)brainiac.com
Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa
I suspect a hardware failure -- I had a delta1010
go out on me several
weeks ago for no apparent reason. Some searches around the net
revealed that these things are susceptible to an onboard component
blowing out (usually a capacitor). The machine it was on dual-booted
to Windows and it also no longer worked there -- all I got was a 60 Hz
hum on both OSes.
That would be most unfortunate :-( I still have a windows installed on this
nachine to and just returned "to an OS" from booting it, and you're right,
it
also doesn't work in windows :-(
4:26 p.m.
On 12 April 2008 at 13:23, Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> wrote:
Thomas, if you don't, it's quite possible
someone with a bit of experience
with a soldering iron can fix. I am writing up a website on it, but have
not completed it pending some work with the pix I took.
There's a lot of stuff that's searchable on the 1010 and capacitors. Caps
usually fail visibly, so look for the ones on the lower circuit board that
might look burned or as if they'd leaked.
I've fixed 2 1010s with bad caps so far, so don't give up on the unit just
yet! I'll see if I can't get the photos soon to finish up that writeup, and
the one on connecting 2 1010s together.
Pictures of the caps would be SOOOO helpful. Thanks....
--
Kevin
13 Apr
13 Apr
6:39 p.m.
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:23:08 -0400
Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> wrote:
I've fixed 2 1010s with bad caps so far, so
don't give up on the unit just
yet! I'll see if I can't get the photos soon to finish up that writeup, and
the one on connecting 2 1010s together.
It's quick and dirty (and ugly!) but here's a website showing the capacitors
I replaced: http://delta.brainiac.com/delta1010capfix.html
--
======================================================================
Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh(a)brainiac.com
Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa
6:56 p.m.
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:39:07 -0400
Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:23:08 -0400
Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> wrote:
Nice bit of fault-finding there :)
I always replace pregnant electrolytics as a matter of course, much
cheaper than waiting for them to go bang!
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
I've fixed 2 1010s with bad caps so far, so
don't give up on the unit just
yet! I'll see if I can't get the photos soon to finish up that writeup, and
the one on connecting 2 1010s together.
It's quick and dirty (and ugly!) but here's a website showing the capacitors
I replaced: http://delta.brainiac.com/delta1010capfix.html
17 Apr
17 Apr
11:56 p.m.
On 13 April 2008 at 16:39, Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:23:08 -0400
Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> wrote:
Awesome. Thanks!
--
Kevin
I've fixed 2 1010s with bad caps so far, so
don't give up on the unit just
yet! I'll see if I can't get the photos soon to finish up that writeup, and
the one on connecting 2 1010s together.
It's quick and dirty (and ugly!) but here's a website showing the capacitors
I replaced: http://delta.brainiac.com/delta1010capfix.html
12 Apr
12 Apr
4:25 p.m.
On 12 April 2008 at 18:44, Thomas Janu <chaos(a)sieglitzhof.net> wrote:
That would be most unfortunate :-( I still have a
windows installed on this
nachine to and just returned "to an OS" from booting it, and you're right,
it
also doesn't work in windows :-(
I guess I have to look if i still have support for that thing...
One year I believe. But, they'll fix the older ones for a minimum of
$40US and going up from there. At least, that's what I remember.
G'luck....
--
Kevin
4:22 p.m.
On 12 April 2008 at 12:29, "Brett McCoy" <idragosani(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect a hardware failure -- I had a delta1010 go
out on me several
weeks ago for no apparent reason. Some searches around the net
revealed that these things are susceptible to an onboard component
blowing out (usually a capacitor). The machine it was on dual-booted
to Windows and it also no longer worked there -- all I got was a 60 Hz
hum on both OSes.
In discussions I had with M-Audio's tech support last month I learned
that the newer Delta 1010s have design changes to fix the capacitor
issue. One of my 1010s is new, and the other is old.
FYI....
--
Kevin
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