29 Apr
2006
29 Apr
'06
2:17 a.m.
Hi all,
Smack 0.3 is now out. Smack is a drum synth, 100% sample free. It's
built with LADSPA plugins and the Om modular synth. 11 new drums in
this release thanks to contributions from Thorsten Wilms. These are
mostly covering a harder sound though include some nice metallic
percussion, shakers and snares.
You need cvs om to use this release.
Get it at http://smack.berlios.de/
Cheers,
Loki
3 May
3 May
8:13 a.m.
On Saturday 29 April 2006 05:17, Loki Davison was like:
Smack 0.3 is now out. Smack is a drum synth, 100%
sample free. It's
built with LADSPA plugins and the Om modular synth. 11 new drums in
this release thanks to contributions from Thorsten Wilms. These are
mostly covering a harder sound though include some nice metallic
percussion, shakers and snares.
You need cvs om to use this release.
Get it at http://smack.berlios.de/
Please don't take this as a massive flame or anything, it is merely intended
as feedback. I have not tried your application yet, largely I realise because
I find the name you have chosen for the project utterly repellant. The word
has no positive connotations for me at all. I wonder if more people would
try, what otherwise appears to be a very cool idea, if you used a name that
sounded more appealing?
Compare the phrases "Now I'm going to teach you how to use a GIMP mask"
and "Those drums would sound better on smack". I'm being deliberately ironic
here, but my serious point is how do they make you feel?
--
cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
8:29 a.m.
tim hall wrote:
Please don't take this as a massive flame or
anything, it is merely intended
as feedback.
Please don't take this as massive flame, but this is nuts.
I have not tried your application yet, largely I
realise because
I find the name you have chosen for the project utterly repellant.
You're from the UK, so I guess english is your main language. From:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=smack
Smack :
- a blow from a flat object
- the taste experience when a savoury condiment is taken into the mouth
- a sailing ship (usually rigged like a sloop or cutter)
- street names for heroin [syn: big H, hell dust, nose drops, thunder]
- an enthusiastic kiss [syn: smooch]
- the act of smacking something; a blow delivered with an open hand
- deliver a hard blow to
- have an element suggestive (of something)
- have a distinctive or characteristic taste
- kiss lightly
- eat noisily by smacking one's lips
Yes, the heroin thing is there, but who cares. I think that using the
meaning "deliver a hard blow to" makes smack is a very appropriate name
for a drum synth.
The word
has no positive connotations for me at all.
Really? Not even "deliver a hard blow to"?
Erik
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9:04 a.m.
Greetings:
[re: Smack - the name]
First thing I thought of (contextually) was slapping a conga drum head.
Then I thought about slapping a conga drum head while my girlfriend
kissed me lightly and said I resembled a junkie...
dp
9:43 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Smack 0.3 Released.
On 5/3/06, tim hall <tech(a)glastonburymusic.org.uk> wrote:
On Saturday 29 April 2006 05:17, Loki Davison was
like:
I like all the connotations of the name. Your drums are on acid would
also be cool, but the name is already popular for another style. ;)
It's really related to hitting a drum though. I think it's catchy. I
may however have wacky taste in names. Khagan is one of my other
programs the word meaning khan of khan. Do you know what the word gimp
means btw? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimp_(sadomasochism)
Loki
Smack 0.3 is now out. Smack is a drum synth, 100%
sample free. It's
built with LADSPA plugins and the Om modular synth. 11 new drums in
this release thanks to contributions from Thorsten Wilms. These are
mostly covering a harder sound though include some nice metallic
percussion, shakers and snares.
You need cvs om to use this release.
Get it at http://smack.berlios.de/
Please don't take this as a massive flame or anything, it is merely intended
as feedback. I have not tried your application yet, largely I realise
because
I find the name you have chosen for the project utterly repellant. The word
has no positive connotations for me at all. I wonder if more people would
try, what otherwise appears to be a very cool idea, if you used a name that
sounded more appealing?
Compare the phrases "Now I'm going to teach you how to use a GIMP mask"
and "Those drums would sound better on smack". I'm being deliberately
ironic
here, but my serious point is how do they make you feel?
--
cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
10:09 a.m.
tim hall wrote:
Please don't take this as a massive flame or
anything, it is merely intended
as feedback. I have not tried your application yet, largely I realise because
I find the name you have chosen for the project utterly repellant. The word
has no positive connotations for me at all. I wonder if more people would
try, what otherwise appears to be a very cool idea, if you used a name that
sounded more appealing?
Compare the phrases "Now I'm going to teach you how to use a GIMP mask"
and "Those drums would sound better on smack". I'm being deliberately
ironic
here, but my serious point is how do they make you feel?
We shouldn't forget to mention these too:
-Nuendo
-CakeWalk
-Reason
-Reaktor (is that radioactive?)
-Logic
Not that proprietary apps is a reference point, but it seems that's
there are just so many phrases one can make with the words "drum",
"audio", "sound" and "music" in them.
LADSPA plugins tend to be better: "Comb Filter", "Rate Shifter",
"Stereo
Reverb". My favourite to date is "Barry's Satan Maximiser", tells me
exactly what to expect...
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12:53 p.m.
On Wed May 3 2006 06:13, tim hall wrote:
Compare the phrases "Now I'm going to teach
you how to use a
GIMP mask" and "Those drums would sound better on smack". I'm
being deliberately ironic here, but my serious point is how do
they make you feel?
I had a lover who was a heroin addict and contracted HIV through
shared needles and later died. (No, I'm not trolling or being
facetious; I just don't have time to write how it affected me or
how my life changed.) Nonetheless, "smack" still means "the
sound something makes when you hit it" to me, and not "street
term for heroin."
I think it's a fine name. (I don't feel that way about the
Gimp.) Maybe if we get some other people whose lives have been
impacted by heroin to chime in, the question will be settled
quickly one way or the other.
Rob
4 May
4 May
10:56 a.m.
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 15:53, Rob was like:
On Wed May 3 2006 06:13, tim hall wrote:
OK, so I'm out on a limb here. It's just that the only colloquial usage of the
word 'smack' round these parts is drug abuse and violence. Perhaps I've just
seen too much of both. I know full well what GIMP means, but I find it mildly
amusing, perhaps because I'm naive when it comes to s&m. It is entirely up to
the developer what they call their software, I'm not going to get all
righteous about it, because that _would_ be nuts. However it is an issue that
I feel strongly enough about to be moved to post something. Mostly I wanted
to check that you were aware of colloquial usage. I understand that the
Rolls-Royce Silver Mist was renamed because it didn't sound so good in
German. Now I know that the issue has been considered I will keep my peace.
Thanks for your passionate replies!-)
--
cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
Compare the phrases "Now I'm going to
teach you how to use a
GIMP mask" and "Those drums would sound better on smack". I'm
being deliberately ironic here, but my serious point is how do
they make you feel?
I had a lover who was a heroin addict and contracted HIV through
shared needles and later died. (No, I'm not trolling or being
facetious; I just don't have time to write how it affected me or
how my life changed.) Nonetheless, "smack" still means "the
sound something makes when you hit it" to me, and not "street
term for heroin."
I think it's a fine name. (I don't feel that way about the
Gimp.) Maybe if we get some other people whose lives have been
impacted by heroin to chime in, the question will be settled
quickly one way or the other. 
11:33 a.m.
tim hall escribe:
I understand that the Rolls-Royce Silver Mist was
renamed because it
didn't sound so good in German.
What does "Silver Mist" mean in german?
In Spain, another car, the Mitsubishi Pajero, was renamed as
Montero. In spanish, "pajero" means "wanker", or somebody who
masturbates obsessively. Nevertheless I would not mind having a car
with such a funny name...
Thanks for your passionate replies!-)
We were just wanking, ups! :)
Cordially, Ismael
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2:57 p.m.
tim hall wrote:
OK, so I'm out on a limb here. It's just that
the only colloquial usage of the
word 'smack' round these parts is drug abuse and violence. Perhaps I've just
seen too much of both. I know full well what GIMP means, but I find it mildly
amusing, perhaps because I'm naive when it comes to s&m.
Gimp is not only an S&M term for a submissive in a leather suit; it's
also a historical synonym for a person with crippled legs. I think it's
a horrible name and I've often taken steps to pronounce the acronym
fully; e.g. "GNU Image Manipulation Program". I love the program, by the
way. I've must've used it over a thousand times by now.
Smack would've been a better name if it weren't for the less ambiguous
slogan; "A new fetish in Linux audio".
YMMV on all above topics, of course.
Sunnan
7:18 p.m.
On Thu May 4 2006 12:57, Sunnan wrote:
Smack would've been a better name if it
weren't for the less
ambiguous slogan; "A new fetish in Linux audio".
OK, I wasn't aware of its slogan. I have to admit that "smack"
as in "the sound of something broad and flat hitting flesh"
doesn't have the negative connotations for me that it might have
for other people, either.
Rob
4:54 p.m.
On Thu May 4 2006 08:56, tim hall wrote:
know full well what GIMP means, but I find it mildly
amusing,
perhaps because I'm naive when it comes to s&m. It is entirely
Where I'm sitting, "gimp" is an insulting term for a handicapped
person, and only became a BDSM related term after the movie Pulp
Fiction had a character by that name. It'd be like calling a
KDE image editor "kike". (Don't know if that's a naughty word
over there too, but it is here.)
I think no matter what collection of vowels and consonants you
put together, sooner or later it's going to upset somebody.
Rob
7:43 p.m.
On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 14:54 -0400, Rob wrote:
On Thu May 4 2006 08:56, tim hall wrote:
The fact that a word which happens to be the street name for a drug is
considered "offensive" in this thread is completely ridiculous -
especially since it's glaringly obvious (being DRUMS) that it's
referring to a sound. Lighten up, people.
Anyway, it's Loki's project, he can name it whatever he wants. I'll
call my next project CrackCocaine if I damn well want to. ;)
-DR-
know full well what GIMP means, but I find it
mildly amusing,
perhaps because I'm naive when it comes to s&m. It is entirely
Where I'm sitting, "gimp" is an insulting term for a handicapped
person, and only became a BDSM related term after the movie Pulp
Fiction had a character by that name. It'd be like calling a
KDE image editor "kike". (Don't know if that's a naughty word
over there too, but it is here.)
I think no matter what collection of vowels and consonants you
put together, sooner or later it's going to upset somebody. 
5 May
5 May
12:58 a.m.
Dave Robillard <drobilla(a)connect.carleton.ca> writes:
I call my next project CrackCocaine if I damn well
want to. ;)
;)
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6:58 a.m.
On Thursday 04 May 2006 19:54, Rob was like:
Where I'm sitting, "gimp" is an
insulting term for a handicapped
person,
I didn't know that.
and only became a BDSM related term after the movie
Pulp
Fiction had a character by that name.
I'm sure the bdsm context has been around longer than that.
It'd be like calling a
KDE image editor "kike". (Don't know if that's a naughty word
over there too, but it is here.)
Naughty? Huh? The word Kike is downright offensive in any context.
I think no matter what collection of vowels and
consonants you
put together, sooner or later it's going to upset somebody.
My original point was not about whether there was anything naughty or
offensive about the word 'smack'. I don't do moral outrage generally. I was
merely pointing out that it had put me off trying out some possibly excellent
software because of its connotations. <irony>OK, I'll just call my next
album 'Crap songs I wrote when I was depressed' if it doesn't
matter.</irony>
--
cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
We are the people We've been waiting for.
9:41 a.m.
tim hall escribe:
<irony>OK, I'll just call my next album
'Crap songs I wrote when I
was depressed' if it doesn't matter.</irony>
It's Morrisey lurking this list!? Amazing!
Cordially, Ismael
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6 May
6 May
12:38 a.m.
On Friday 05 May 2006 12:41, Ismael Valladolid Torres was like:
tim hall escribe:
Heaven knows, I'm miserable now!
Now I know how Joan of Arc felt, la la la la!
etc.
--
cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
We are the people We've been waiting for.
<irony>OK, I'll just call my next album
'Crap songs I wrote when I
was depressed' if it doesn't matter.</irony>
It's Morrisey lurking this list!? Amazing!
5 May
5 May
9:39 a.m.
Rob escribe:
It'd be like calling a KDE image editor
"kike". (Don't know if
that's a naughty word over there too, but it is here.)
In Spain, "kike" is diminutive for people called "enrique", an
affective way to call them.
Some software names are not upsetting but simply stupid. "Windows" is
one of them, but maybe also "Linux". "BSD" sounds like a drug,
doesn't
it? :)
Cordially, Ismael
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1:37 p.m.
On 5/5/06, Ismael Valladolid Torres <ivalladolidt(a)terra.es> wrote:
Rob escribe:
I was tempted to say this many times before in this thread, but was a
little shy: in brazilian portuguese, the pronounce of Khagan means
plainly defacating, in coloquial speak. I have nothing against it, let
that be clear! But the first time I read it in the announce message, I
lol and thought what Loki would say if he knew that... Well, now he
knows... :-)
Hi, Loki, you are a great maker of names!!!
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It'd be like calling a KDE image editor
"kike". (Don't know if
that's a naughty word over there too, but it is here.)
In Spain, "kike" is diminutive for people called "enrique", an
affective way to call them.
11:23 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Smack 0.3 Released.
On 5/6/06, Denis Alessandro Altoe Falqueto <denisfalqueto(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/5/06, Ismael Valladolid Torres
<ivalladolidt(a)terra.es> wrote:
Arrrg! ;) Choose a pretty much random word and you seem certain to end
up with something dodgy. Great, my projects end up meaning drugs and
crap. I was listening to lots of reggae when i decided on the name and
something that pretty much means king of kings seemed pretty cool.
Mongolia rocks in obscure way anyway.
I'm pretty happy about all the noise about smack/khagan anyway maybe
now i can get someone submitting bug reports/feature requests or
patches? ;) The smack bug page is looking a little lonely with zero
bugs. Same for features... ;)
Loki
Rob escribe:
I was tempted to say this many times before in this thread, but was a
little shy: in brazilian portuguese, the pronounce of Khagan means
plainly defacating, in coloquial speak. I have nothing against it, let
that be clear! But the first time I read it in the announce message, I
lol and thought what Loki would say if he knew that... Well, now he
knows... :-)
Hi, Loki, you are a great maker of names!!!
It'd be like calling a KDE image editor
"kike". (Don't know if
that's a naughty word over there too, but it is here.)
In Spain, "kike" is diminutive for people called "enrique", an
affective way to call them.
6:38 p.m.
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 13:39 +0200, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote:
Rob escribe:
One letter off from LSD - and it came from Berkeley. Coincidence? :)
-DR-
It'd be like calling a KDE image editor
"kike". (Don't know if
that's a naughty word over there too, but it is here.)
In Spain, "kike" is diminutive for people called "enrique", an
affective way to call them.
Some software names are not upsetting but simply stupid. "Windows" is
one of them, but maybe also "Linux". "BSD" sounds like a drug,
doesn't
it? :) 
4:27 p.m.
On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 10:53 -0400, Rob wrote:
Maybe if we get some other people whose lives have
been
impacted by heroin to chime in, the question will be settled
quickly one way or the other.
I live in a city with a terrible heroin problem, knew several people who
got messed up on the stuff and one who died and I'm not bothered one bit
by the name. The first thing I thought of was smacking a drum. This
was years ago though, I can see how someone recently affected by it
would object. IOW I agree with Rob 100%
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