14 Aug
2025
14 Aug
'25
5:33 p.m.
Hi LAUs,
I have often considered getting Harrison Mixbus as a 'more pro' version
of Ardour which has always seemed a rather competitive pricepoint in the
market, strong Linux commitment and familiarity with Ardour workflow.
I'm wondering what impact their (now 1 year-old) announcement about not
developing plug-ins for Linux any more have on Linux users potentially
buying a license? [1]
It seems the plug-ins they are referring to are not the ones shipped
with mixbus, which if I also understand correctly are 'mixbus only'
plugins. It wouldn't seem to hint to any drop of Linux support in
general ("There are no plans to discontinue Mixbus or XT software for
Linux users, this applies to the plug-ins only").
Something else I'm also wondering, and I understand this might be a bit
more of an 'edge' question, is if / how supporting mixbus by buying it
also somehow supports Ardour of if direct support to Ardour is better /
preferred.
I understand these questions could be more relevant asked directly in
the specific lists / fora of these software but I do think that with
both now being cross-platform a Linux angle might be interesting (and
these are and have been Linux Audio 'flagship' software...) :-)
Curious about ideas / experiences / thoughts.
Lorenzo
[1]
https://support.harrisonaudio.com/hc/en-gb/articles/19840057916957-Why-is-H…
14 Aug
14 Aug
6:09 p.m.
On 2025-08-14 17:33, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
I'm wondering what impact their (now 1 year-old)
announcement about not
developing plug-ins for Linux any more have on Linux users potentially
buying a license? [1]
This pertains to their AVA (AAX, VST, AudioUnit) line of plugins, which
use recent JUCE/iLok. Since iLok is n/a on Linux (thank $GOD), Linux
support was dropped. These plugins are developed by a different team,
unrelated to Mixbus.
It seems the plug-ins they are referring to are not
the ones shipped
with mixbus, which if I also understand correctly are 'mixbus only'
plugins.
That is correct. The XT-* line of plugins are LV2, and unrelated to the
AVA plugins. They do work in Ardour and other LV2 hosts, which is pretty
much "Mixbus only" (ie not Ableton, Cubase, ProTools, Bitwig, Studio
One,..) ;-)
It wouldn't seem to hint to any drop of Linux
support in general
Seeing as all current developers of Harrison Mixbus (and XT.lv2) use
GNU/Linux, that is indeed not likely to happen.
Something else I'm also wondering, and I
understand this might be a bit
more of an 'edge' question, is if / how supporting mixbus by buying it
also somehow supports Ardour of if direct support to Ardour is better /
preferred.
Harrison supports Ardour financially both indirectly (Paul) and directly
(me, doing contract work for them). Ardour also benefits from Harrison's
general expertise that they have in the market since over 50 years.
We tend to think of them as different products. Mixbus introduces
specific constraints: stereo only signal flow, dedicated EQ, Gate,
Compressor/Leveler/etc, along with an ergonomic mixer interface. If you
like that, and it aids your workflow, and you don't mind closed-source
DSP, use Mixbus.
Cheers!
robin
9:40 p.m.
Hi Robin,
On 14/08/2025 18:09, Robin Gareus wrote:
Good!
Also makes sense, thanks for the detailed and clear explanations ;-)
Lorenzo
On 2025-08-14 17:33, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
Makes sense. Thanks for the clarifications :-)
I'm wondering what impact their (now 1
year-old) announcement about
not developing plug-ins for Linux any more have on Linux users
potentially buying a license? [1]
This pertains to their AVA (AAX, VST, AudioUnit) line of plugins, which
use recent JUCE/iLok. Since iLok is n/a on Linux (thank $GOD), Linux
support was dropped. These plugins are developed by a different team,
unrelated to Mixbus.
It seems the plug-ins they are referring to are
not the ones shipped
with mixbus, which if I also understand correctly are 'mixbus only'
plugins.
That is correct. The XT-* line of plugins are LV2, and unrelated to the
AVA plugins. They do work in Ardour and other LV2 hosts, which is pretty
much "Mixbus only" (ie not Ableton, Cubase, ProTools, Bitwig, Studio
One,..) ;-)
It wouldn't seem to hint to any drop of Linux
support in general
Seeing as all current developers of Harrison Mixbus (and XT.lv2) use
GNU/Linux, that is indeed not likely to happen. Something else I'm also wondering, and I
understand this might be a
bit more of an 'edge' question, is if / how supporting mixbus by
buying it also somehow supports Ardour of if direct support to Ardour
is better / preferred.
Harrison supports Ardour financially both indirectly (Paul) and directly
(me, doing contract work for them). Ardour also benefits from Harrison's
general expertise that they have in the market since over 50 years.
We tend to think of them as different products. Mixbus introduces
specific constraints: stereo only signal flow, dedicated EQ, Gate,
Compressor/Leveler/etc, along with an ergonomic mixer interface. If you
like that, and it aids your workflow, and you don't mind closed-source
DSP, use Mixbus.
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