1 Jul
2008
1 Jul
'08
9:55 p.m.
greetings!
starting with a wav and a corresponding toc, from which i would normally burn a master
audio cd, is it possible to generate an iso image of the audio cd, so a user on some other
operating system can simply burn the iso to a disc, and end up with a clone of my audio
cd, including all cd-text and pq coding? i've been searching, but it's not looking
very clear how to do it, or in fact whether it CAN be done.
and, is there also a way to generate a dmg file (which a lot of mac programs seem to
like), instead of an iso image?
thanks for any help!
cheers!
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.pltk.
2 Jul
2 Jul
5:34 a.m.
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:00:46 -0400
plutek-infinity <plutek(a)infinity.net> wrote:
greetings!
starting with a wav and a corresponding toc, from which i would normally burn a master
audio cd, is it possible to generate an iso image of the audio cd, so a user on some other
operating system can simply burn the iso to a disc, and end up with a clone of my audio
cd, including all cd-text and pq coding? i've been searching, but it's not looking
very clear how to do it, or in fact whether it CAN be done.
probably a sematic issue but an iso (iso 9660) is a data cd filesystem standard and audio
cds have no filesystem.
if you mean some sort of raw disk image (and many people do mean this when they refer to
an iso)
then you're best bet may be cdrdao which ships with one of the most popular windows
ripper (EAC) and
is widely available on linux at least.
you would probably want to master your cd then rip it to toc/bin.
cdrdao has numerous options for read modes and cdtext extraction etc.
there are linux tools to convert between cue and toc too, but they are not
comprehensive iirc.
windows users will probably prefer a cue/bin (CDRwin/EAC etc) though.
i'm not aware of any single file image (no separate toc) and certainly not
one that is widely supported on multiple platforms but i tend to stay in my
own corner of linuxland so that's not saying much.
an alternative would be to distribute the wave files or monolithic wave
with a toc/cue. most burning softs can handle that kind of thing and the cdtext could
be included via the toc.
cheers,
pete.
9:18 a.m.
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:34:39 +0100
From: pete shorthose <zenadsl6252(a)zen.co.uk>
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:00:46 -0400
plutek-infinity <plutek(a)infinity.net> wrote:
thanks, pete! your conclusions pretty much correspond to mine, so it's good to have
them confirmed, at least. yes, i thought "iso" really only referred to a
specific, non-audio, filesystem, but was hunting for some single file image for audio
cd's, much like the actual iso's for other disks. a friend of mine, who uses macs,
says there's a dmg file which is a complete single-file image of a cd, used in
protools. perhaps that is proprietary.
cheers!
--
.pltk.
greetings!
starting with a wav and a corresponding toc, from which i would normally burn a master
audio cd, is it possible to generate an iso image of the audio cd, so a user on some other
operating system can simply burn the iso to a disc, and end up with a clone of my audio
cd, including all cd-text and pq coding? i've been searching, but it's not looking
very clear how to do it, or in fact whether it CAN be done.
probably a sematic issue but an iso (iso 9660) is a data cd filesystem standard and audio
cds have no filesystem.
if you mean some sort of raw disk image (and many people do mean this when they refer to
an iso)
then you're best bet may be cdrdao which ships with one of the most popular windows
ripper (EAC) and
is widely available on linux at least.
you would probably want to master your cd then rip it to toc/bin.
cdrdao has numerous options for read modes and cdtext extraction etc.
there are linux tools to convert between cue and toc too, but they are not
comprehensive iirc.
windows users will probably prefer a cue/bin (CDRwin/EAC etc) though.
i'm not aware of any single file image (no separate toc) and certainly not
one that is widely supported on multiple platforms but i tend to stay in my
own corner of linuxland so that's not saying much.
an alternative would be to distribute the wave files or monolithic wave
with a toc/cue. most burning softs can handle that kind of thing and the cdtext could
be included via the toc. 
3 p.m.
A DMG to my knowledge is not proprietary, but there isn't much reason to
make one on Linux. There is also little reason to make one for this
situation either, as it is typically not used to create a binary image of a
CD. For that you are much better going with the .bin or .iso files to be
honest. IIRC a .iso file can be burned by Diskutility on Mac OS X with no
problem. Most burning programs on OS X can handle TOC/CUE files, though I
don't believe Disc Utility can burn them, and I know from experience some,
like older versions of Toast(Not sure about newer) don't burn them
correctly, so I suppose this might be why your friend suggested a DMG.
However to be hoenst a DMG would not be a good match for this, as it is
designed to store files to my knowledge, and thus wouldn't be to strong a
match for an audio CD.
Seablade
Who has been stuck on Macs for a bit now.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 5:24 AM, plutek-infinity <plutek(a)infinity.net> wrote:
thanks, pete! your conclusions pretty much correspond
to mine, so it's good
to have them confirmed, at least. yes, i thought "iso" really only referred
to a specific, non-audio, filesystem, but was hunting for some single file
image for audio cd's, much like the actual iso's for other disks. a friend
of mine, who uses macs, says there's a dmg file which is a complete
single-file image of a cd, used in protools. perhaps that is proprietary.
cheers!
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.pltk.
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5:33 p.m.
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plutek-infinity wrote:
Peter,
Have you taken a look at using dd to simply create a disc image of the CD?
Frank
Date: Wed, 2
Jul 2008 08:34:39 +0100
From: pete shorthose <zenadsl6252(a)zen.co.uk>
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:00:46 -0400
plutek-infinity <plutek(a)infinity.net> wrote:
thanks, pete! your conclusions pretty much correspond to mine, so it's good to have
them confirmed, at least. yes, i thought "iso" really only referred to a
specific, non-audio, filesystem, but was hunting for some single file image for audio
cd's, much like the actual iso's for other disks. a friend of mine, who uses macs,
says there's a dmg file which is a complete single-file image of a cd, used in
protools. perhaps that is proprietary.
cheers!
greetings!
starting with a wav and a corresponding toc, from which i would normally burn a master
audio cd, is it possible to generate an iso image of the audio cd, so a user on some other
operating system can simply burn the iso to a disc, and end up with a clone of my audio
cd, including all cd-text and pq coding? i've been searching, but it's not looking
very clear how to do it, or in fact whether it CAN be done.
probably a sematic
issue but an iso (iso 9660) is a data cd filesystem standard and audio cds have no
filesystem.
if you mean some sort of raw disk image (and many people do mean this when they refer to
an iso)
then you're best bet may be cdrdao which ships with one of the most popular windows
ripper (EAC) and
is widely available on linux at least.
you would probably want to master your cd then rip it to toc/bin.
cdrdao has numerous options for read modes and cdtext extraction etc.
there are linux tools to convert between cue and toc too, but they are not
comprehensive iirc.
windows users will probably prefer a cue/bin (CDRwin/EAC etc) though.
i'm not aware of any single file image (no separate toc) and certainly not
one that is widely supported on multiple platforms but i tend to stay in my
own corner of linuxland so that's not saying much.
an alternative would be to distribute the wave files or monolithic wave
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9:03 p.m.
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:33:07 -0400
frank pirrone <frankpirrone(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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plutek-infinity wrote:
Peter,
Have you taken a look at using dd to simply create a disc image of the CD?
iirc, you need to use special ioctls to read cd audio data and so dd doesn't work at
all for audio cds.
whilst we are on the subject though, a cdripping discussion came up a while ago WRT
accurate ripping of cds. at the time, i tried ripping an audio cd with cdrdao but
using the raw modes to see if the latent hardware r/w offsets were ignored in that
case. when i burned and ripped the resulting cdr back again, the image was indeed
correctly aligned.
anyone else noticed this?
cheers,
pete.
Date:
Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:34:39 +0100
From: pete shorthose <zenadsl6252(a)zen.co.uk>
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:00:46 -0400
plutek-infinity <plutek(a)infinity.net> wrote:
thanks, pete! your conclusions pretty much correspond to mine, so it's good to have
them confirmed, at least. yes, i thought "iso" really only referred to a
specific, non-audio, filesystem, but was hunting for some single file image for audio
cd's, much like the actual iso's for other disks. a friend of mine, who uses macs,
says there's a dmg file which is a complete single-file image of a cd, used in
protools. perhaps that is proprietary.
cheers!
greetings!
starting with a wav and a corresponding toc, from which i would normally burn a master
audio cd, is it possible to generate an iso image of the audio cd, so a user on some other
operating system can simply burn the iso to a disc, and end up with a clone of my audio
cd, including all cd-text and pq coding? i've been searching, but it's not looking
very clear how to do it, or in fact whether it CAN be done.
probably a sematic
issue but an iso (iso 9660) is a data cd filesystem standard and audio cds have no
filesystem.
if you mean some sort of raw disk image (and many people do mean this when they refer to
an iso)
then you're best bet may be cdrdao which ships with one of the most popular windows
ripper (EAC) and
is widely available on linux at least.
you would probably want to master your cd then rip it to toc/bin.
cdrdao has numerous options for read modes and cdtext extraction etc.
there are linux tools to convert between cue and toc too, but they are not
comprehensive iirc.
windows users will probably prefer a cue/bin (CDRwin/EAC etc) though.
i'm not aware of any single file image (no separate toc) and certainly not
one that is widely supported on multiple platforms but i tend to stay in my
own corner of linuxland so that's not saying much.
an alternative would be to distribute the wave files or monolithic wave
with a toc/cue. most burning softs can handle that kind of thing and the cdtext could
be included via the toc. 
3 Jul
3 Jul
7:54 a.m.
plutek-infinity wrote:
a friend of mine, who uses macs, says
there's a dmg file which is a complete single-file image of a cd,
used in protools. perhaps that is proprietary.
Don't know if it's proprietary, but I believe Apple is doing away with
support for the DMG format.
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
2:13 p.m.
Not certain where you got that from, got a link? I haven't seen any
evidence of it at any rate.
Seablade
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:54 AM, david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
plutek-infinity wrote:
a friend of mine, who uses macs, says
there's a dmg file which is a complete single-file image of a cd,
used in protools. perhaps that is proprietary.
Don't know if it's proprietary, but I believe Apple is doing away with
support for the DMG format.
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
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5:09 p.m.
I'm not a Mac person since almost 20 years ago, so might have just been
something read in passing. A quick Google doesn't find anything about
it, so could just be confusion with something else on my part. Sorry for
the noise!
Thomas Vecchione wrote:
Not certain where you got that from, got a link? I
haven't seen any
evidence of it at any rate.
Seablade
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:54 AM, david wrote:
plutek-infinity wrote:
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a friend of mine, who uses macs, says
there's a dmg file which is a complete single-file image of a cd,
used in protools. perhaps that is proprietary.
Don't know if it's proprietary, but I believe Apple is doing away with
support for the DMG format.
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