On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 10:36:10 +0100, tim hall
wrote:
  Last Monday 25 July 2005 22:15, Kevin Cosgrove
was like:
 > On 25 July 2005 at 15:46, Ben Loftis ben(a)glw.com> wrote:
 > > Most professional audio gear is like a bicycle.  A bike is
 > > certainly not intuitive to a first time user, but once you
 > > learn how to balance, steer, etc, you can get around faster
 > > than someone on foot.  This has sometimes been described as
 > > "intuitable" rather than intuitive.
 > Or, "discoverable" versus "usable".
 > Word is easy to discover for easy things to do. 'vi' is
 > *much* faster, if my 'vi' speed versus the 'Word' speed of my
 > compatriots is any gauge.  Pull-down menus are "intuitive", where
 > as hot-keys are not.  But, hot-keys get the work done quickly
 > once they're known.  Pull-down menus which list their hot-key
 > shortcuts in the menu are quite nice for me.  The Opera web
 > browser is one example of this.
 Thanks Kevin. All keybindings have to be learned. I can't use vi without
 constant reference to the manual. I dare say the same would be true of emacs.
 I dislike them both and use nedit for everything, simply because it works
 much more like a Windows based editor, so I had to relearn less in order to
 get typing when I first migrated. It's nothing to do with intuitabilty either
 - old habits die hard. 
 True, you have to decide wether its worth the effort. When
I started
 developing on UNIX machines I watched the old hands and relaised that 1)
 they were all much faster than me, and 2) they (almost) all used vi. So I
 took the effort to learn, in the knowledge that I would spend a lot of my
 life typing. It took makes months to be able to fly vi, but now you can
 prise it from my cold dead fingers.
 I experience extreme discomfort when forced to use a non-modal editor,
 and when I have to go through afterwards and remove all the ^[hhhhhhcw
 afterwards :)
 For anyone whos thinking of learning, dont start by trying to digest it
 all, just start with i A yy dd, and go from there, its all pretty
 logical when you get into it. 
Yes. I find vi to be very intuitive.