26 Feb
2005
26 Feb
'05
2:18 a.m.
I bought a Delta 1010, which works very well. But there's one strange
thing:
I let the system running the whole day and, when i came back home this
evening, the power LED on the 1010 was turned off and the card was not
passing any signal in or out. The OS was seeing it, i was able to run
envy24control, but couldn't hear anything. Rebooting the system didn't
help.
After power-cycling the system, the card works fine again.
Cause? Remedy?
Also, is your card running hot like mine does? (epecially the left-hand
side of the box)
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Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
26 Feb
26 Feb
4:40 a.m.
Florin Andrei wrote:
I bought a Delta 1010, which works very well. But
there's one strange
thing:
I let the system running the whole day and, when i came back home this
evening, the power LED on the 1010 was turned off and the card was not
passing any signal in or out. The OS was seeing it, i was able to run
envy24control, but couldn't hear anything. Rebooting the system didn't
help.
After power-cycling the system, the card works fine again.
Cause? Remedy?
My uptimes are measured in weeks and I've not seen this issue.
Also, is your card running hot like mine does?
(epecially the left-hand
side of the box)
Yes, but not so hot you can't touch it. It's a well known Achilles-heel
of the delta 1010.
cheers
Rob
5:10 p.m.
On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 08:44 +0000, Rob Fell wrote:
Right, it's hot but not so i can't touch it.
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Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
Florin Andrei wrote:
Today i powered up the system and the LED on the 1010 didn't light up. I
pulled the 9 VAC cord out then plugged it in and the LED lighted up.
<sigh> I guess I'll send it back for a replacement.
I let the system running the whole day and, when
i came back home this
evening, the power LED on the 1010 was turned off and the card was not
passing any signal in or out. The OS was seeing it, i was able to run
envy24control, but couldn't hear anything. Rebooting the system didn't
help.
After power-cycling the system, the card works fine again.
My uptimes are measured in weeks and I've not seen this issue. Also, is your
card running hot like mine does? (epecially the left-hand
side of the box)
Yes, but not so hot you can't touch it. It's a well known Achilles-heel
of the delta 1010.
1 Mar
1 Mar
11:43 p.m.
On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 13:10 -0800, Florin Andrei wrote:
Today i powered up the system and the LED on the 1010
didn't light up. I
pulled the 9 VAC cord out then plugged it in and the LED lighted up.
<sigh> I guess I'll send it back for a replacement.
Ok, i pulled it out and re-packaged it for return to the store. Then I
plugged the studio monitors into the on-board sound card (a regular AC97
thing). OMG! The on-board card sounds like crap, by comparison with the
1010! It's flat, harsh, muffled and... um... lifeless, sort of.
I guess the average listener wouldn't perceive the difference (or care
about it) but for critical listening, it's like night and day. I didn't
even had to A/B it with the 1010, it was clear from the beginning.
I'm anxiously waiting for a replacement for my 1010... :-/
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Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
11:52 p.m.
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 19:43 -0800, Florin Andrei wrote:
On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 13:10 -0800, Florin Andrei
wrote:
Yup, most onboard sound hardware is shockingly bad. People complain
about Linux support, and don't realize that this stuff barely works on
*any* OS.
Lee
Today i powered up the system and the LED on the
1010 didn't light up. I
pulled the 9 VAC cord out then plugged it in and the LED lighted up.
<sigh> I guess I'll send it back for a replacement.
Ok, i pulled it out and re-packaged it for return to the store. Then I
plugged the studio monitors into the on-board sound card (a regular AC97
thing). OMG! The on-board card sounds like crap, by comparison with the
1010! It's flat, harsh, muffled and... um... lifeless, sort of.
I guess the average listener wouldn't perceive the difference (or care
about it) but for critical listening, it's like night and day. I didn't
even had to A/B it with the 1010, it was clear from the beginning.
I'm anxiously waiting for a replacement for my 1010... :-/
18 Mar
18 Mar
3:40 a.m.
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 19:43 -0800, Florin Andrei wrote:
Ok, i pulled it out and re-packaged it for return to the store. Then I
plugged the studio monitors into the on-board sound card (a regular AC97
thing). OMG! The on-board card sounds like crap, by comparison with the
1010! It's flat, harsh, muffled and... um... lifeless, sort of.
I guess the average listener wouldn't perceive the difference (or care
about it) but for critical listening, it's like night and day. I didn't
even had to A/B it with the 1010, it was clear from the beginning.
I got my 1010 replacement today. Meanwhile, i was using a SoundBlaster
Live Value, i just couldn't stand the onboard AC97 sound output.
I pulled the SBLive out now and replaced it with the new Delta 1010.
Shock! Horror! I used to think that SoundBlaster are decent cards -
well, now, after getting used to the SB sound and migrating to 1010...
there's a clear difference!
The sound cards are driving a Mackie Big Knob which, in turn, drives a
pair of Sennheiser HD600 via one of it's phones outputs (which seem
pretty damn good AFAICT). On the HD600, i can tell that there's an
obvious difference between the SoundBlaster and the Delta 1010.
The 1010 is, somehow, more authoritative, the sound is fuller, more
crisp, yet more gentle and rounded, full-bodied if i may say so. And i
think i can hear more details too (which is, BTW, the strong point of
the HD600).
The SoundBlaster lacks "meat", it's somewhat more harsh and not as
luscious. It's still much better than the onboard AC97 crap, but it's no
match for the 1010.
I'm listening to various electronica songs, Vangelis, Tangerine Dream,
some lesser known authors that use lots of Moog and analog synths... it
all sounds very smooth now and... dunno how to put it... "organic". The
sound is alive, has texture and depth.
There's no going back for me now. :-) I've been totally spoiled.
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Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
3:53 p.m.
On Thu, 2005-03-17 at 23:40 -0800, Florin Andrei wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 19:43 -0800, Florin Andrei
wrote:
I got my 1010 replacement today. Meanwhile, i was using a SoundBlaster
Live Value, i just couldn't stand the onboard AC97 sound output.
I pulled the SBLive out now and replaced it with the new Delta 1010.
Shock! Horror! I used to think that SoundBlaster are decent cards -
well, now, after getting used to the SB sound and migrating to 1010...
there's a clear difference!
Not suprised, but to be completely fair the SBLive Value does have the
cheapest codecs and worst S/N ratio of all of them. So that's not an
entirely fair comparison. It is a $30 sound card after all.
Also did you use the rear channels as your mains? It's fairly well
documented that the ADC used for the rear channels on sblive cards is
much better quality.
Lee
11:30 p.m.
On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 14:53 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
On Thu, 2005-03-17 at 23:40 -0800, Florin Andrei
wrote:
True.
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 19:43 -0800, Florin Andrei
wrote:
Shock! Horror! I used to think that SoundBlaster are decent cards -
well, now, after getting used to the SB sound and migrating to 1010...
there's a clear difference!
Not suprised, but to be completely fair the SBLive Value does have the
cheapest codecs and worst S/N ratio of all of them. So that's not an
entirely fair comparison. It is a $30 sound card after all. Also did you use the rear channels as your mains?
It's fairly well
documented that the ADC used for the rear channels on sblive cards is
much better quality.
I didn't know that. But, frankly, now i don't care. :-)
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Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
26 Feb
26 Feb
5:17 a.m.
Cause? Remedy?
I have never seen such an behaviour. If this occurs again, I would check
the cabling.
Also, is your card running hot like mine does?
(epecially the left-hand
side of the box)
Mine is getting warm, but I would not call it hot. Just don't cover the
box with anything so the warm air can travel upways.
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12:51 p.m.
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:18:08 -0800
Florin Andrei <florin(a)andrei.myip.org> wrote:
I let the system running the whole day and, when i
came back home this
evening, the power LED on the 1010 was turned off and the card was not
passing any signal in or out. The OS was seeing it, i was able to run
envy24control, but couldn't hear anything. Rebooting the system didn't
help.
This sounds like usual behavior when the external box loses power. Are
you sure that you didn't plug the external box into a plug on a switch?
Also, is your card running hot like mine does?
(epecially the left-hand
side of the box)
Mine gets moderately warm there, but it's the top thing in my rack,
and underneath is just a patchbay.
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