20 Mar
2007
20 Mar
'07
5:54 p.m.
Here's a new one on me...
Earlier today, my consumer-grade card was working fine. It's an old
Creative aka Ensoniq card, specifically a 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)
according to lspci. I haven't installed or upgraded any software in a
few days, no problems at all... then just now, I tried to play a CD
and only could hear the left channel.
I fired up alsamixer, which appears to work normally, except that
nothing I do brings up the right channel... it LOOKS like it's up but
I don't hear anything.
Must be cables, right? I checked all the connections, swapped cables,
and confirmed that only the left channel is appearing at the soundcard
output jack.
Maybe it's the internal CD cable? I then tried playing some audio
files (mp3, wav, whatever) and ... this is where it gets really
odd... any app I try appears to hang, and I get no sound at all!
For example, here's an excerpt of the output from strace mpg123:
...
write(2, "MPEG 1.0 layer III, 128 kbit/s, "..., 54MPEG 1.0 layer III,
128 kbit/s, 44100 Hz joint-stereo
) = 54
open("/dev/dsp", O_WRONLY) = 4
ioctl(4, SNDCTL_DSP_RESET, 0) = 0
ioctl(4, SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT or SOUND_PCM_READ_BITS, 0x7fff93b8ac2c) = 0
ioctl(4, SNDCTL_DSP_STEREO, 0x7fff93b8ac2c) = 0
ioctl(4, SNDCTL_DSP_SPEED or SOUND_PCM_READ_RATE, 0x7fff93b8ac44) = 0
close(4) = 0
open("/dev/dsp", O_WRONLY) = 4
ioctl(4, SNDCTL_DSP_RESET, 0) = 0
ioctl(4, SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT or SOUND_PCM_READ_BITS, 0x7fff93b8ad4c) = 0
ioctl(4, SNDCTL_DSP_STEREO, 0x7fff93b8ad4c) = 0
ioctl(4, SNDCTL_DSP_SPEED or SOUND_PCM_READ_RATE, 0x7fff93b8ad64) = 0
write(4, "\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"...,
16384) = 16384
read(3,
"x\17\23z.E\v/2to\212\370\220<\302\274\r\20\207\26\f=%\321"..., 414) =
414
read(3, "\377\373\222d", 4) = 4
read(3, "^\r\323\306H\304\3\0172\362b\'8\220e\203\244Ni%\22,\260"...,
414) = 414
read(3, "\377\373\222D", 4) = 4
read(3,
"C\215SrDD\223\t\35\260n)\230\206=#\214\16\r3\20,\274t\201"..., 414) =
414
read(3, "\377\373\222D", 4) = 4
read(3, "#\201\223\223J\304\vO\32\362y\v\310\211<b\346\v\354\177"...,
414) = 414
write(4,
"\361\377\370\377\362\377\372\377\360\377\373\377\355\377"..., 16384)
= 16384
read(3, "\377\373\222d", 4) = 4
read(3, "\f\215\3238(a)F\251\351\35$Z%\10\302a\346.\ft\311\30,0\311"\311"...,
414) = 414
read(3, "\377\373\222d", 4) = 4
read(3, "\f\205\23\0170E\203\0172r]\304(\266a\351>MX\307\26\254"...,
414) = 414
read(3, "\377\373\222d", 4) = 4
read(3, "\r\214\323e(a)\305\203\f3\300Wc\330\260a\351.\r\\\307\30"7\30"...,
414) = 414
write(4,
"\0\0\374\377\1\0\372\377\3\0\370\377\6\0\370\377\v\0\371"..., 16384)
= 16384
read(3, "\377\373\222d", 4) = 4
read(3, "\f\rSgJ\305\3\f\35
Pe(\266a\203\226\r]!\26,0o\301M\17\242"..., 414) = 414
read(3, "\377\373\222d", 4) = 4
read(3, "\r\4\363PP\306\3\f\33pP\244\370\305a\351.\r\344\325\35"...,
414) = 414
read(3, "\377\373\222d", 4) = 4
read(3,
"\23\4\30310\306\251\3542pUe\310\321=\206>\f\20\257\32\254"..., 414) =
414
read(3, "\377\373\222d", 4) = 4
read(3, "\33\200\323\n6\306\253\f\32\360L\2038\300a,\"\vL\221\32"...,
414) = 414
write(4, "\f\0\t\0\r\0\v\0\17\0\f\0\17\0\n\0\17\0\t\0\17\0\n\0\21"...,
16384) = 16384
read(3, "\377\373\222d", 4) = 4
read(3,
"-\5\322\344*\306\303\f1rM%\30\321a&N\213\234\341\32,$\307"..., 414) =
414
read(3, "\377\373\222D", 4) = 4
read(3, "@\200\2\261!\307K\0172pX\247(\345<\303\36\n\220\245\34"...,
414) = 414
read(3, "\377\373\222D", 4) = 4
read(3,
"R\200\2\2560\310K\f1rT\310yL<\303\n\n\220\251!\'\244i\311"..., 414) =
414
write(4,
"\370\377\3\0\371\377\3\0\370\377\3\0\367\377\3\0\366\377"..., 16384)
= -1 EIO (Input/output error)
read(3, "\377\373\222D", 4) = 4
read(3, "h\5\2\332/G\311\346\25\260]H\31\31A&\10\nt\241\36L0\307"...,
414) = 414
read(3, "\377\373\222D", 4) = 4
read(3, "u\f\22\334)\306\213\17\32v]\307\330\365=&\6\v(\251\34,"...,
414) = 414
read(3, "\377\373\222D", 4) = 4
read(3, "|\205\22\343*\3071\3541r]\250i\10<\303f\vp\245\34\3140"...,
414) = 414
read(3, "\377\373\222D", 4) = 4
read(3, "\202\204\23\0048G3\0171\360_\10\210\325=&2\v\264\231\30"...,
414) = 414
write(4,
"\367\377\21\0\367\377\r\0\367\377\r\0\370\377\16\0\372"..., 16384)
= -1 EIO (Input/output error)
... and so on.
I tried restarting alsa (/etc/init.d/alsasound restart), no joy.
I tried shutting down the whole box, restarting it, still no joy.
WTF? Is my hardware fried?
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
20 Mar
20 Mar
6:32 p.m.
On 3/20/07, Paul Winkler <pw_lists(a)slinkp.com> wrote:
write(4,
"\367\377\21\0\367\377\r\0\367\377\r\0\370\377\16\0\372"..., 16384)
= -1 EIO (Input/output error)
... and so on.
I tried restarting alsa (/etc/init.d/alsasound restart), no joy.
I tried shutting down the whole box, restarting it, still no joy.
WTF? Is my hardware fried?
Mr. Winkler, please, have a seat.
Your sound card arrived at the hospital badly injured. The doctors
went through every procedures to repair the damage to her. They had to
upgrade the drivers, plug in some new cables, gave her some medicine,
but it seems her condition was too delicate to be handled. Mr.
Winkler, I am sorry to tell you your sound card died this morning.
Eventually, we will arrange a meeting with a priest, and help you
organise some decent funerals.
May she rest in Piece.
Amen.
__________________
Dr. Marc-Olivier Barre,
PCI surgeon.
6:40 p.m.
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 10:32:46PM +0100, Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
Mr. Winkler, please, have a seat.
Your sound card arrived at the hospital badly injured. The doctors
went through every procedures to repair the damage to her. They had to
upgrade the drivers, plug in some new cables, gave her some medicine,
but it seems her condition was too delicate to be handled. Mr.
Winkler, I am sorry to tell you your sound card died this morning.
Eventually, we will arrange a meeting with a priest, and help you
organise some decent funerals.
May she rest in Piece.
Amen.
But she was only four years old! (sob)
Oh well. Any recommendations for a consumer-grade card?
My needs are modest:
- a place to attach the cable from my CD-ROM
- Quake3 can open it using mmap
- headphone output sounds tolerably decent
- hopefully will last another 4 years or so :)
For everything else I use a Delta 66.
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
7:25 p.m.
2007/3/20, Paul Winkler <pw_lists(a)slinkp.com>om>:
Oh well. Any recommendations for a consumer-grade
card?
My needs are modest:
- a place to attach the cable from my CD-ROM
- Quake3 can open it using mmap
- headphone output sounds tolerably decent
- hopefully will last another 4 years or so :)
For everything else I use a Delta 66.
Anything that costs less then 50€ should suffice if there is a
linux-driver for it...
Arnold
--
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---
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verhindern könnte, würde ich mir noch heute einen Stapel Brenner und
einen Sack Rohlinge kaufen.
7:56 p.m.
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 11:13:06PM +0100, Arnold Krille wrote:
2007/3/20, Paul Winkler <pw_lists(a)slinkp.com>om>:
Well, not necessarily. mmap support in oss emulation (I forgot to
mention that part!) does not seem to be universal, and it's almost the
only thing I care about in this card. I play quake3 quite a bit (yes,
still!); it's so old it uses OSS only and requires mmap access to the
card.
Just to name one example that doesn't work, the nVidia CK804 AC'97 on
my motherboard mostly works - but mmap doesn't work, so no quake.
Some preliminary googling turned up several other cards that
apparently won't work for me (AudioScience cards, Fortemedia FM801).
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Oh well. Any recommendations for a consumer-grade
card?
My needs are modest:
- a place to attach the cable from my CD-ROM
- Quake3 can open it using mmap
- headphone output sounds tolerably decent
- hopefully will last another 4 years or so :)
For everything else I use a Delta 66.
Anything that costs less then 50??? should suffice if there is a
linux-driver for it... 
8:03 p.m.
I've had really good experience with the emu10k? based cards. The
Audigy2 has fairly decent sound quality and supports mmap fine.
later,
Steve
On 3/20/07, Paul Winkler <pw_lists(a)slinkp.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 11:13:06PM +0100, Arnold
Krille wrote:
2007/3/20, Paul Winkler
<pw_lists(a)slinkp.com>om>:
Well, not necessarily. mmap support in oss emulation (I forgot to
mention that part!) does not seem to be universal, and it's almost the
only thing I care about in this card. I play quake3 quite a bit (yes,
still!); it's so old it uses OSS only and requires mmap access to the
card.
Just to name one example that doesn't work, the nVidia CK804 AC'97 on
my motherboard mostly works - but mmap doesn't work, so no quake.
Some preliminary googling turned up several other cards that
apparently won't work for me (AudioScience cards, Fortemedia FM801).
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Oh well. Any recommendations for a consumer-grade
card?
My needs are modest:
- a place to attach the cable from my CD-ROM
- Quake3 can open it using mmap
- headphone output sounds tolerably decent
- hopefully will last another 4 years or so :)
For everything else I use a Delta 66.
Anything that costs less then 50??? should suffice if there is a
linux-driver for it... 
21 Mar
21 Mar
12:52 a.m.
Paul Winkler wrote:
Well, not necessarily. mmap support in oss emulation
(I forgot to
mention that part!) does not seem to be universal, and it's almost the
only thing I care about in this card. I play quake3 quite a bit (yes,
still!); it's so old it uses OSS only and requires mmap access to the
card.
I play quake3 and urban-terror with an older SB Live!.
I've bought a few of them on ebay for cheap, and they all
work well. I just grabbed a replacement outta my parts
bin, it says CT4780.
(I have them same on in my quake machine)
--
paulw
26 Mar
26 Mar
9:05 p.m.
But she was only four years old! (sob)
Oh well. Any recommendations for a consumer-grade card?
My needs are modest:
- a place to attach the cable from my CD-ROM
- Quake3 can open it using mmap
- headphone output sounds tolerably decent
- hopefully will last another 4 years or so :)
I would pick up a soundblaster Live! from ebay.
If Quake3 understands the EAX extensions, then
you will enjoy reverb and other effects that suit
the room that you are fragging in. Walk into
a silo, and you get big reverb.
It also has dual outputs, so you can put channels
3 and 4 in back of you with two more speakers, and
actually be able to hear monsters sneak up on you
from behind. Whirl around, and the sound is now
in front of you. It adds quite a bit to the game,
but I really only have experience with Half Life.
The card is not for studio use, but then you have
your Delta.
Tobiah
20 Mar
20 Mar
11:27 p.m.
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 04:53:20PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
write(4,
"\367\377\21\0\367\377\r\0\367\377\r\0\370\377\16\0\372"..., 16384)
= -1 EIO (Input/output error)
... and so on.
A few things I might try if I were insistent enough:
1) Unload ALSA modules and load OSS drivers. strace again and see if
you get the same errors. If so, do the same number of writes complete
sucessfully?
2) I might try seating the card in a different slot or cleaning the PCI
fingers to ensure it's getting a good connection.
3) If you know that your box has weird APIC/ACPI issues, you might
want to try booting with acpi=off, noapic, and or pci=routeirq kernel
options.
But if you can find another for $10 on ebay, it's probably not worth
your time.
--
Ross Vandegrift
ross(a)kallisti.us
"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37
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