25 Dec
2007
25 Dec
'07
12:45 p.m.
There may have been a thread on this topic a month or so back, but I'm
not sure what to look for.
It's too noisy in my apartment for any audio recording. I first
thought about portable DAT recorders, but my googling leads me to
believe that's old technology.
In American Musical Supply (AMS), I see the Zoom H2 digital recorder.
I'll probably go to my church sanctuary for the vocal recording. The
church's mixer has RCA L/R outputs I can tie into. Or I could use any
mics included with the digital recorder. My computer has USB ports
and is running openSUSE 10.2 with ALSA mixer 1.0.14, and have the
Audigy2 ZS internal card. I can take a any type of output from the
recorder (1/8" stereo plug, RCA L/R, XLR, and possibly digital out-- I
haven't tried that with the Audigy 2 ZS) and get it routed to the ALSA
mixer for use with Audacity or some other recording software.
I'd like to stay under 100USD. The Zoom H2 is listed at 199USD.
Suggestions?
Thank you,
Stephen.
25 Dec
25 Dec
2:58 p.m.
On Tuesday 25 December 2007 11:04:21 The Other wrote:
There may have been a thread on this topic a month or
so back, but I'm
not sure what to look for.
It's too noisy in my apartment for any audio recording. I first
thought about portable DAT recorders, but my googling leads me to
believe that's old technology.
In American Musical Supply (AMS), I see the Zoom H2 digital recorder.
I'll probably go to my church sanctuary for the vocal recording. The
church's mixer has RCA L/R outputs I can tie into. Or I could use any
mics included with the digital recorder. My computer has USB ports
and is running openSUSE 10.2 with ALSA mixer 1.0.14, and have the
Audigy2 ZS internal card. I can take a any type of output from the
recorder (1/8" stereo plug, RCA L/R, XLR, and possibly digital out-- I
haven't tried that with the Audigy 2 ZS) and get it routed to the ALSA
mixer for use with Audacity or some other recording software.
I'd like to stay under 100USD. The Zoom H2 is listed at 199USD.
Suggestions?
Stephen.
--------------------------------
I have a Zoom H4 and love it. If I knew then what I know now I would have
done the H2, as I do not need the effects, and the H2 goes beyond simply
stereo. The on board mikes are pretty sensitive, so the levels will need to
be turned down. Overall very pleased.
Tom
28 Dec
28 Dec
8:58 a.m.
thomas fisher wrote:
On Tuesday 25 December 2007 11:04:21 The Other wrote:
Thanks for all of the replies. I hadn't considered a Minidisc
recorder, but after considering that a Minidisc has moving parts, my
old engineering background decided a mechanical failure would occur
sometime in the future and I'd have to research this problem again.
Next I saw this review of the Zoom H2 recorder:
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2007/09/13/review-zoom-h2-surround-recorder…
That was an impressive review outlining a very intelligently designed
recorder.
I went to the Zoom website to see if I could download the user's
manual. http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h2/
I could. Any company that will provide the user manual online always
has my referral, and most often my purchase.
The H2 user manual states the supported Operating Systems are Windows
XP, Windows Vista, and MacOSX 10.2 or later.
As stated above, I'm running openSUSE 10.2 with a 2.6.x kernel. Is
there any chance I'd be able to run the H2 through a USB port into my
kernel and have all the functionality mentioned in the user manual?
If someone is running another Linux distribution that works directly
with the H2, what distribution are you running?
Thanks,
Stephen.
There may have been a thread on this topic a
month or so back, but I'm
not sure what to look for.
It's too noisy in my apartment for any audio recording. I first
thought about portable DAT recorders, but my googling leads me to
believe that's old technology.
In American Musical Supply (AMS), I see the Zoom H2 digital recorder.
I'll probably go to my church sanctuary for the vocal recording. The
church's mixer has RCA L/R outputs I can tie into. Or I could use any
mics included with the digital recorder. My computer has USB ports
and is running openSUSE 10.2 with ALSA mixer 1.0.14, and have the
Audigy2 ZS internal card. I can take a any type of output from the
recorder (1/8" stereo plug, RCA L/R, XLR, and possibly digital out-- I
haven't tried that with the Audigy 2 ZS) and get it routed to the ALSA
mixer for use with Audacity or some other recording software.
I'd like to stay under 100USD. The Zoom H2 is listed at 199USD.
Suggestions?
Stephen.
--------------------------------
I have a Zoom H4 and love it. If I knew then what I know now I would have
done the H2, as I do not need the effects, and the H2 goes beyond simply
stereo. The on board mikes are pretty sensitive, so the levels will need to
be turned down. Overall very pleased.
Tom 
10:05 a.m.
The gemini ikey is pretty affordable, but it does not have internal
media or microphone. It writes 44.1khz 16bit wav or various mp3 to
USB drives.
10:31 a.m.
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:16:22 -0600
The Other <sstubbs(a)shout.net> wrote:
Thanks for all of the replies. I hadn't
considered a Minidisc
recorder, but after considering that a Minidisc has moving parts, my
old engineering background decided a mechanical failure would occur
sometime in the future and I'd have to research this problem again.
Next I saw this review of the Zoom H2 recorder:
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2007/09/13/review-zoom-h2-surround-recorder…
That was an impressive review outlining a very intelligently designed
recorder.
I went to the Zoom website to see if I could download the user's
manual. http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h2/
I could. Any company that will provide the user manual online always
has my referral, and most often my purchase.
The H2 user manual states the supported Operating Systems are Windows
XP, Windows Vista, and MacOSX 10.2 or later.
As stated above, I'm running openSUSE 10.2 with a 2.6.x kernel. Is
there any chance I'd be able to run the H2 through a USB port into my
kernel and have all the functionality mentioned in the user manual?
If they are telling the truth about the spec (and I don't see why they
wouldn't) then you should have no problems. It's mass storage at 'full
speed' i.e. 'fast' USB 1.1 (which is actually a bit slow)
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
11:11 a.m.
The H2 user
manual states the supported Operating Systems are Windows
XP, Windows Vista, and MacOSX 10.2 or later.
As stated above, I'm running openSUSE 10.2 with a 2.6.x kernel. Is
there any chance I'd be able to run the H2 through a USB port into my
kernel and have all the functionality mentioned in the user manual?
If they are telling the truth about the spec (and I don't see why they
wouldn't) then you should have no problems. It's mass storage at 'full
speed' i.e. 'fast' USB 1.1 (which is actually a bit slow)
29 Dec
29 Dec
1:06 a.m.
On Friday 28 December 2007 07:16:22 The Other wrote:
thomas fisher wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Stephen
I am the guy who posted about being a very contented H4 user. I have used it
with Debian Sarge { several earlier 2.6 kernels }, Ubuntu Feisty ,
UbuntuStudio 2.6.20 rt, Ubuntu Gutsy 2.6.22 rt. I believe the H2 will not
have any problem with a relatively current kernel in that the device
recognition is in the USB module.
If you do go with the Zoom:
--> even though battery performance is better than stated by the mfg., to
supply yourself with some NiMh and a good quality charger.
--> Set the internal Mic sensitivity at about 97. And in the computer run it
through Audacity ->Effect --> Amplify function.
--> The mikes are like all high quality mikes and are subject to all spurious
knocks, wind and etc. So proper mike placement and handling will yield very
nice results.
Goodluck
Tom
On Tuesday 25 December 2007 11:04:21 The Other
wrote:
Thanks for all of the replies. I hadn't considered a Minidisc
recorder, but after considering that a Minidisc has moving parts, my
old engineering background decided a mechanical failure would occur
sometime in the future and I'd have to research this problem again.
Next I saw this review of the Zoom H2 recorder:
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2007/09/13/review-zoom-h2-surround-recorder
.html
That was an impressive review outlining a very intelligently designed
recorder.
I went to the Zoom website to see if I could download the user's
manual. http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h2/
I could. Any company that will provide the user manual online always
has my referral, and most often my purchase.
The H2 user manual states the supported Operating Systems are Windows
XP, Windows Vista, and MacOSX 10.2 or later.
As stated above, I'm running openSUSE 10.2 with a 2.6.x kernel. Is
there any chance I'd be able to run the H2 through a USB port into my
kernel and have all the functionality mentioned in the user manual?
If someone is running another Linux distribution that works directly
with the H2, what distribution are you running?
Thanks,
Stephen. There may have been a thread on this topic a
month or so back, but I'm
not sure what to look for.
It's too noisy in my apartment for any audio recording. I first
thought about portable DAT recorders, but my googling leads me to
believe that's old technology.
In American Musical Supply (AMS), I see the Zoom H2 digital recorder.
I'll probably go to my church sanctuary for the vocal recording. The
church's mixer has RCA L/R outputs I can tie into. Or I could use any
mics included with the digital recorder. My computer has USB ports
and is running openSUSE 10.2 with ALSA mixer 1.0.14, and have the
Audigy2 ZS internal card. I can take a any type of output from the
recorder (1/8" stereo plug, RCA L/R, XLR, and possibly digital out-- I
haven't tried that with the Audigy 2 ZS) and get it routed to the ALSA
mixer for use with Audacity or some other recording software.
I'd like to stay under 100USD. The Zoom H2 is listed at 199USD.
Suggestions?
Stephen.
--------------------------------
I have a Zoom H4 and love it. If I knew then what I know now I would
have done the H2, as I do not need the effects, and the H2 goes beyond
simply stereo. The on board mikes are pretty sensitive, so the levels
will need to be turned down. Overall very pleased.
Tom
3 p.m.
thomas fisher wrote:
On Friday 28 December 2007 07:16:22 The Other wrote:
Thanks for the additional reply, Tom.
I went to Amazon.com and just ordered the Zoom H2 recorder bundled
with the BlueProton card reader and a 4GB Sandisk memory card. I
selected free shipping from Amazon.com and paid shipping from
BlueProton. Total price was 220.56USD.
By going with the BlueProton card reader, my thoughts are that it now
doesn't matter what operating system I'm using. The USB card reader
will be recognized by openSUSE 10.2, so I can copy the sound recording
files directly from the memory card without using the Zoom H2. The
manual for the Zoom H2 specifically stated not to use the computer to
delete the files off the memory card, but to use the Zoom H2 to manage
the files. Thus I'll be following the manual guidelines and letting
the Zoom H2 manage files on the memory card, and just copy the wanted
files through the USB card reader into openSUSE 10.2 for processing.
It may turn out that the Zoom H2 is correctly recognized by openSUSE
10.2. In which case I can see if it's possible to use the Zoom H2 as
a USB microphone.
Thanks Tom, and everyone, for the replies and assistance. It's greatly
appreciated.
Stephen.
thomas fisher wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Stephen
I am the guy who posted about being a very contented H4 user. I have used it
with Debian Sarge { several earlier 2.6 kernels }, Ubuntu Feisty ,
UbuntuStudio 2.6.20 rt, Ubuntu Gutsy 2.6.22 rt. I believe the H2 will not
have any problem with a relatively current kernel in that the device
recognition is in the USB module.
If you do go with the Zoom:
--> even though battery performance is better than stated by the mfg., to
supply yourself with some NiMh and a good quality charger.
--> Set the internal Mic sensitivity at about 97. And in the computer run it
through Audacity ->Effect --> Amplify function.
--> The mikes are like all high quality mikes and are subject to all spurious
knocks, wind and etc. So proper mike placement and handling will yield very
nice results.
Goodluck
Tom
On Tuesday 25 December 2007 11:04:21 The Other
wrote:
Thanks for all of the replies. I hadn't considered a Minidisc
recorder, but after considering that a Minidisc has moving parts, my
old engineering background decided a mechanical failure would occur
sometime in the future and I'd have to research this problem again.
Next I saw this review of the Zoom H2 recorder:
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2007/09/13/review-zoom-h2-surround-recorder
.html
That was an impressive review outlining a very intelligently designed
recorder.
I went to the Zoom website to see if I could download the user's
manual. http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h2/
I could. Any company that will provide the user manual online always
has my referral, and most often my purchase.
The H2 user manual states the supported Operating Systems are Windows
XP, Windows Vista, and MacOSX 10.2 or later.
As stated above, I'm running openSUSE 10.2 with a 2.6.x kernel. Is
there any chance I'd be able to run the H2 through a USB port into my
kernel and have all the functionality mentioned in the user manual?
If someone is running another Linux distribution that works directly
with the H2, what distribution are you running?
Thanks,
Stephen. There may have been a thread on this topic a
month or so back, but I'm
not sure what to look for.
It's too noisy in my apartment for any audio recording. I first
thought about portable DAT recorders, but my googling leads me to
believe that's old technology.
In American Musical Supply (AMS), I see the Zoom H2 digital recorder.
I'll probably go to my church sanctuary for the vocal recording. The
church's mixer has RCA L/R outputs I can tie into. Or I could use any
mics included with the digital recorder. My computer has USB ports
and is running openSUSE 10.2 with ALSA mixer 1.0.14, and have the
Audigy2 ZS internal card. I can take a any type of output from the
recorder (1/8" stereo plug, RCA L/R, XLR, and possibly digital out-- I
haven't tried that with the Audigy 2 ZS) and get it routed to the ALSA
mixer for use with Audacity or some other recording software.
I'd like to stay under 100USD. The Zoom H2 is listed at 199USD.
Suggestions?
Stephen.
--------------------------------
I have a Zoom H4 and love it. If I knew then what I know now I would
have done the H2, as I do not need the effects, and the H2 goes beyond
simply stereo. The on board mikes are pretty sensitive, so the levels
will need to be turned down. Overall very pleased.
Tom 
25 Dec
25 Dec
4:38 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 12:04 -0600, The Other wrote:
I'd like to stay under 100USD. The Zoom H2 is
listed at 199USD.
Pick up a second-hand DAT or better still Minidisc recorder. You can
get a *really really good* Minidisc very cheaply these days, and media
is still available.
Minidisc mechanisms tend to be fairly quiet (but not silent). The ATRAC
compression is lossy, but not obtrusively so - you'd be unlikely to hear
it on vocals in a mix.
Gordon
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