28 Apr
2004
28 Apr
'04
1:32 p.m.
Hi,
I've managed to get some sort of thin client, but still have some problems.
I've enabled XDMCP on my server, and run this on my diskless epia client:
"X -query ip_of_server"
and I got login screen, got into and could work as just at the server. But I
would like to go further. It seems like that desktop is using resources on
server (audio, graphic card).
How can I get sound from server's desktop to my epia thin client ?
I'd really like to get this working cause this will be right device for my
kids. In this way they've got TV, entertainment box (running mythtv) and
normal PC terminal.
Thanks in advance for responses,
Regards,
Robert.
29 Apr
29 Apr
11:04 a.m.
On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 08:24, Robert Rozman wrote:
Hi,
I've managed to get some sort of thin client, but still have some problems.
I've enabled XDMCP on my server, and run this on my diskless epia client:
"X -query ip_of_server"
and I got login screen, got into and could work as just at the server. But I
would like to go further. It seems like that desktop is using resources on
server (audio, graphic card).
How can I get sound from server's desktop to my epia thin client ?
Have been asking on here about some Xvnc stuff myself and not got much
help. Either off topic or something more personal like...they all hate
me! :))
I am not an expert but I don't think any of the standard vnc / rfb
client/server solutions will do this. That is if I understand you
correctly...You want the sound from the server you remotely log to, to
port to the client machine? Even if you could do that, the sound quality
would be limited to bandwidth type issues as Tightvnc, Vnc, Xrfb, etc
are all optimized to function well over slower connections. I.E. You
sound would be poor quality.
R~
I'd really like to get this working cause this will be right device for my
kids. In this way they've got TV, entertainment box (running mythtv) and
normal PC terminal.
Thanks in advance for responses,
Regards,
Robert.
11:45 a.m.
On Thursday 29 April 2004 14.50, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 08:24, Robert Rozman wrote:
We all hate you ;)
Not!
Hi,
I've managed to get some sort of thin client, but still have some
problems.
I've enabled XDMCP on my server, and run this on my diskless epia client:
"X -query ip_of_server"
and I got login screen, got into and could work as just at the server.
But I would like to go further. It seems like that desktop is using
resources on server (audio, graphic card).
How can I get sound from server's desktop to my epia thin client ?
Have been asking on here about some Xvnc stuff myself and not got much
help. Either off topic or something more personal like...they all hate
me! :))
I am not an expert but I don't think any of the standard vnc / rfb
client/server solutions will do this. That is if I understand you
correctly...You want the sound from the server you remotely log to, to
port to the client machine? Even if you could do that, the sound quality
would be limited to bandwidth type issues as Tightvnc, Vnc, Xrfb, etc
are all optimized to function well over slower connections. I.E. You
sound would be poor quality.
This is a very complex issue. There are a few sound-servers that are
specifically tailored to do this e.g NAS and a few others (arts?). Though, you
have still the problem that your sound apps need support for the soundserver
you decide to use (or use pre-load trickery). Also, it is uncertain how
stable the sound-servers are. But I guess the only way to find out is to try
one of them :)
I have thought many times to explore this area for music production usage.
Music production today under linux is to a large extent made with JACK and I
don't think JACK yet has a networked backend which would be one way to
improve on the situation.
Now that I think about it, wasn't there a networked jack-client a while ago ?
Regards,
Robert
R~
> I'd really like to get this working cause this will be right device for
> my kids. In this way they've got TV, entertainment box (running mythtv)
> and normal PC terminal.
>
> Thanks in advance for responses,
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert.
11:56 a.m.
>>>> "Russell" == Russell
Hanaghan <hanaghan(a)starband.net> writes:
Russell> Have been asking on here about some Xvnc stuff myself and
Russell> not got much help. Either off topic or something more
Russell> personal like...they all hate me! :))
Russell> I am not an expert but I don't think any of the standard
Russell> vnc / rfb client/server solutions will do this. That is
Russell> if I understand you correctly...You want the sound from
Russell> the server you remotely log to, to port to the client
Russell> machine? Even if you could do that, the sound quality
Russell> would be limited to bandwidth type issues as Tightvnc,
Russell> Vnc, Xrfb, etc are all optimized to function well over
Russell> slower connections. I.E. You sound would be poor quality.
Russell> R~
I think you are looking for something like MAS
(http://www.mediaapplicationserver.net/) and/or NAS
(http://radscan.com/nas.html) I haven't really tried them myself
Regards
Hasse
7:10 p.m.
I got some solutions that are based on arts. I'll be satisfied with one
music player (xmms or similar) and one video player to support arts.
I set arts on server to output over network, now I need artsd on client that
will receive stream and playit locally. But will artsd work without KDE ?
Regards,
Robert.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hasse Hagen Johansen" <hhj(a)musikcheck.dk>
To: "A list for linux audio users" <linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] How to get sound on remote X kde client
>>>> "Russell" == Russell Hanaghan <hanaghan(a)starband.net>
writes:
Russell> Have been asking on here about some Xvnc stuff myself and
Russell> not got much help. Either off topic or something more
Russell> personal like...they all hate me! :))
Russell> I am not an expert but I don't think any of the standard
Russell> vnc / rfb client/server solutions will do this. That is
Russell> if I understand you correctly...You want the sound from
Russell> the server you remotely log to, to port to the client
Russell> machine? Even if you could do that, the sound quality
Russell> would be limited to bandwidth type issues as Tightvnc,
Russell> Vnc, Xrfb, etc are all optimized to function well over
Russell> slower connections. I.E. You sound would be poor quality.
Russell> R~
I think you are looking for something like MAS
(http://www.mediaapplicationserver.net/) and/or NAS
(http://radscan.com/nas.html) I haven't really tried them myself
Regards
Hasse
7:23 p.m.
Thursday 29 April 2004 23.03 skrev Robert Rozman:
I got some solutions that are based on arts. I'll
be satisfied with one
music player (xmms or similar) and one video player to support arts.
I set arts on server to output over network, now I need artsd on client
that will receive stream and playit locally. But will artsd work without
KDE ?
I don't think arts has any kde dependencies that it really needs. You should
be okay.
/Robert
7:40 p.m.
>>>> "Robert" == Robert Rozman
<rozman(a)fri.uni-lj.si> writes:
Robert> I got some solutions that are based on arts. I'll be
Robert> satisfied with one music player (xmms or similar) and one
Robert> video player to support arts.
Robert> I set arts on server to output over network, now I need
Robert> artsd on client that will receive stream and playit
Robert> locally. But will artsd work without KDE ?
Robert> Regards,
Robert> Robert.
esd will also do that just set ESPEAKER env variable to which host it
should output to :-)
/Hasse
11:21 p.m.
Russell,
On Thursday 29 April 2004 13:50, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
Have been asking on here about some Xvnc stuff myself
and not got much
help. Either off topic or something more personal like...they all hate
me! :))
I don't understand half of the acronyms used in this conversation. I think
complete silence in response to any reasonable request generally means no-one
has a clue / enough time to explain. Consider, if the question was stupidly
simple, you'd probably get at least one wisecrack
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