18 Aug
2008
18 Aug
'08
7:28 p.m.
hi
i am looking for a PCMCIA FireWire card with Texas Instruments chip, a
source on eBay with shipping to Europe would be best, any idea?
Simone
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19 Aug
19 Aug
10:25 a.m.
simone-www.io-sound.org wrote:
hi
i am looking for a PCMCIA FireWire card with Texas Instruments chip, a
source on eBay with shipping to Europe would be best, any idea?
Simone
If there is sufficient interest in this I can order a bunch from some
taiwanese OEM. I played a while with the idea of sourcing a set of cards
that work fine with ffado (as far as I can test that), and putting them
up for sale. But it didn't seem worthwhile.
Greets,
Pieter Palmers
10:51 a.m.
Hi,
If there is sufficient interest in this I can order a
bunch from some
taiwanese OEM. I played a while with the idea of sourcing a set of cards
that work fine with ffado (as far as I can test that), and putting them
up for sale. But it didn't seem worthwhile.
currently I'm looking for a card which can replace my 28 channel rack mixer.
The main purpose is to mix various synths, some guit and mic; I'd then do it
via a FW card and in software using ardour.
I need at least 16 Mono (resp. 8 stereo) inputs plus some mic ins with phantom
power. I'd like to route the ins to any outs. If the routing was preserved
even if not connected to a computer it would be great.
Until now I have never seen a card which pleases my needs. If there is one
from a taiwanese OEM, I'd be interested :) .
Cheers,
ce
11:24 a.m.
Am Dienstag, 19. August 2008 schrieb Christoph Eckert:
Until now I have never seen a card which pleases my
needs. If there is one
from a taiwanese OEM, I'd be interested :) .
Small misunderstanding: This thread is about ordering firewire-pcmcia
controllers. Not about ordering firewire-audio-devices. ;-)
And looking at what you want to replace, you would need one of the biggest
saffires and an extra adat-interface. Which isn't exactly cheap. And would be
a hell of setup "just" for playing some synths. (But if you buy such a setup,
I would be interested in testing it for replacing foh-consoles with it. :)
Have fun,
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11:42 a.m.
Hi,
Small misunderstanding: This thread is about ordering
firewire-pcmcia
controllers. Not about ordering firewire-audio-devices. ;-)
argh, you're right. Sorry for the traffic.
And looking at what you want to replace, you would
need one of the biggest
saffires and an extra adat-interface. Which isn't exactly cheap. And would
be a hell of setup "just" for playing some synths.
True. I simply want to get rid of this monster rack mixer. What I basically
need is a 28x28 patchpanel with software patchcables and firewire
connectivity :) .
The SAFFIRE PRO 26 I/O looks interesting. If I got you correctly you'd plug in
an adat interface as an a/d converter, right? If there an adat device with 16
line ins?
(But if you buy such a
setup, I would be interested in testing it for replacing foh-consoles with
it. :)
foh?? Anyway, sooner or later I fear I will need such a setup. Or how do other
people connect a handful of synths to a computer?
Cheers,
ce
12:40 p.m.
Hi,
Am Dienstag, 19. August 2008 schrieb Christoph Eckert:
Nope, adat is 8 channels only (per cable), even half-ed when used with 96kHz.
But because of the firewire stack and/or the world-clock you can sync two
firewire devices to act as one big sample synced device.
So for your requisites you would probably need two to three saffires and some
optional adat-converters[*]. Sounds sexy but rather pricey.
My handful of synths all connect with jack by default. :-P
Have fun,
Arnold
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And looking at
what you want to replace, you would need one of the
biggest saffires and an extra adat-interface. Which isn't exactly cheap.
And would be a hell of setup "just" for playing some synths.
True. I
simply want to get rid of this monster rack mixer. What I basically
need is a 28x28 patchpanel with software patchcables and firewire
connectivity :) .
The SAFFIRE PRO 26 I/O looks interesting. If I got you correctly you'd plug
in an adat interface as an a/d converter, right? If there an adat device
with 16 line ins? (But if you
buy such a
setup, I would be interested in testing it for replacing foh-consoles
with it. :)
foh?? Anyway, sooner or later I fear I will need such a setup. Or how
do
other people connect a handful of synths to a computer?
1:12 p.m.
Hi,
So for your requisites you would probably need two to
three saffires and
some optional adat-converters[*]. Sounds sexy but rather pricey.
plus it won't save much space in my rack, compared to the current mixer. Well,
thanks for the hints. But I guess the search continues :( .
Best regards,
ce
20 Aug
20 Aug
7:20 a.m.
Christoph Eckert wrote:
Hi,
Please note that the saffire pro does not have a full-blown matrix
mixer. So it will not do what you want to do.
The only devices I know that have this functionality are the MOTU
interfaces, the PreSonus FireStudio and AFAIK the M-Audio Pro-26.
Also note that most of them have only 8 (maybe 10) analog I/O's.
Greets,
Pieter
Small misunderstanding: This thread is about
ordering firewire-pcmcia
controllers. Not about ordering firewire-audio-devices. ;-)
argh, you're right. Sorry for the traffic.
And looking at what you want to replace, you
would need one of the biggest
saffires and an extra adat-interface. Which isn't exactly cheap. And would
be a hell of setup "just" for playing some synths.
True. I simply want to get rid of this monster rack mixer. What I basically
need is a 28x28 patchpanel with software patchcables and firewire
connectivity :) .
The SAFFIRE PRO 26 I/O looks interesting. If I got you correctly you'd plug in
an adat interface as an a/d converter, right? If there an adat device with 16
line ins? 
10:13 a.m.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Pieter Palmers <pieterp(a)joow.be> wrote:
Please note that the saffire pro does not have a
full-blown matrix
mixer. So it will not do what you want to do.
The only devices I know that have this functionality are the MOTU
interfaces, the PreSonus FireStudio and AFAIK the M-Audio Pro-26.
It is not a FW interface, but RME HDSP line has full-blown matrix mixer, and
Multiface supports disconnected operation (never tried it, though).
Btw, I also thought it is a good and modern idea to mix synths with
multichannel cards,
but now came to a conclusion, that good old mixer with several
subgroups and sends
is a much more convenient, user-friendly and problem-proof solution.
And it works without computer as well :)
Dmitry.
23 Aug
23 Aug
8:07 a.m.
Hi,
It is not a FW interface, but RME HDSP line has
full-blown matrix mixer,
and Multiface supports disconnected operation (never tried it, though).
this would mean I'd buy the PCMCIA interface; I wonder though if my next
machine will still provide a PCMCIA interface? I guess they will die rather
sooner than later.
Btw, I also thought it is a good and modern idea to
mix synths with
multichannel cards,
but now came to a conclusion, that good old mixer with several
subgroups and sends
is a much more convenient, user-friendly and problem-proof solution.
And it works without computer as well :)
True. Frankly, my Behringer 28 channel MX 2804 still is a good solution, but
audio quality is poor. I have a lot of problems with hum and stuff. That's
why I want to replace it with something more reliable. Any mixer you would
recommend?
Best regards,
ce
8:23 a.m.
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Christoph Eckert <ce(a)christeck.de> wrote:
Hi,
There is a PCIe (PCI Express Card) as well for the same interface. And RME
will keep up with the trends for shure ....
These audiointerfaces are state-of-the-art since like 10 years or so (?!).
There is nothing better for the money. You can buy a used Multiface with
PCMCIA card for 350 euros or less.
RME is the best : ) !!!
It is not a FW interface, but RME HDSP line has
full-blown matrix mixer,
and Multiface supports disconnected operation (never tried it, though).
this would mean I'd buy the PCMCIA interface; I wonder though if my next
machine will still provide a PCMCIA interface? I guess they will die rather
sooner than later. Btw, I also thought it is a good and modern idea
to mix synths with
multichannel cards,
but now came to a conclusion, that good old mixer with several
subgroups and sends
is a much more convenient, user-friendly and problem-proof solution.
And it works without computer as well :)
True. Frankly, my Behringer 28 channel MX 2804 still is a good solution,
but
audio quality is poor. I have a lot of problems with hum and stuff. That's
why I want to replace it with something more reliable. Any mixer you would
recommend?
Best regards,
ce
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5:51 p.m.
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Christoph Eckert <ce(a)christeck.de> wrote:
this would mean I'd buy the PCMCIA interface; I
wonder though if my next
machine will still provide a PCMCIA interface? I guess they will die rather
sooner than later.
As Martin Horn already noted, RME released PCI-E (and
ExpressCard)
adapter for HDSP line.
And I generally agree that RME is the best (own a Multiface II myself).
True. Frankly, my Behringer 28 channel MX 2804 still
is a good solution, but
audio quality is poor. I have a lot of problems with hum and stuff. That's
That
comes with no surprise - it's Behringer - (their logo - ear in a
triangle, means: Warning! Keep your ears away!)
I'm joking, and don't want to start a flame war here, Behr has its
place on a market, but you get what you pay for.
why I want to replace it with something more reliable.
Any mixer you would
recommend?
I use an inexpensive Soundcraft MPM12/2 mixer and is pleased with the
quality.
It has 12 mono channels, 2 stereo, 2 subgroups and 3 sends, with 2
switchable pre/post.
But seems you need more channels. Take a look at MPM20, or M12 if you
need more than 2 stereo channels.
Soundcraft multi-purpose mixers -
http://www.soundcraft.com/products.asp?product_category_id=2
Also check Allen&Heath ZED-series - http://www.allen-heath.com/zed/
Soundcraft/A&H are not a very cheap mixers, comparing to
Behr/Phonic/etc.., but they are IMHO quite reasonably priced,
have good sound quality and will be cheaper in $$ per channel than any
soundcard solution, as well as being much more hands-on.
And you get per-channel EQ as well :)
Also, consider getting one main mixer, and few small ones as a
submixers, instead of a very big one.
This _may_ be a cheaper and more flexible solution.
Regards,
Dmitry.
25 Aug
25 Aug
3:02 a.m.
On Wednesday 20 August 2008 14:13:51 Dmitry Baikov wrote:
It is not a FW interface, but RME HDSP line has
full-blown matrix
mixer, and Multiface supports disconnected operation (never tried it,
though).
What do you mean with 'disconnect' - operating the Multiface without a
connected computer? That won't work. The mixer is on the interface
card.
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8:50 a.m.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Florian Faber <faber(a)faberman.de> wrote:
On Wednesday 20 August 2008 14:13:51 Dmitry Baikov
wrote:
Seems, the mixer is in the external box.
Disconnected mode in HDSP works as follows:
1) connect the box
2) set up mixer as you need
3) select "Diconnect Mode" (TotalMix feature)
4) disconnect the box
It will route audio the way you set it up.
References:
http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3041
http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1161
and the manual.
But I never tried it. And not sure it will work on linux, until
somebody adds this feature to hdspmixer.
Dmitry.
It is not a FW interface, but RME HDSP line has
full-blown matrix
mixer, and Multiface supports disconnected operation (never tried it,
though).
What do you mean with 'disconnect' - operating the Multiface without a
connected computer? That won't work. The mixer is on the interface
card.
23 Aug
23 Aug
7:55 a.m.
Hi,
Please note that the saffire pro does not have a
full-blown matrix
mixer. So it will not do what you want to do.
The only devices I know that have this functionality are the MOTU
interfaces, the PreSonus FireStudio and AFAIK the M-Audio Pro-26.
Also note that most of them have only 8 (maybe 10) analog I/O's.
interesting. Thanks for the info!
Best regards,
ce
19 Aug
19 Aug
2:02 p.m.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Pieter Palmers <pieterp(a)joow.be> wrote:
simone-www.io-sound.org wrote:
count me in for one but consider that
i am also sourcing myself, if i
find a deal i will inform you
hi
i am looking for a PCMCIA FireWire card with Texas Instruments chip, a
source on eBay with shipping to Europe would be best, any idea?
Simone
If there is sufficient interest in this I can order a bunch from some
taiwanese OEM. I played a while with the idea of sourcing a set of cards
that work fine with ffado (as far as I can test that), and putting them up
for sale. But it didn't seem worthwhile.
Greets,
Pieter Palmers
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