12 Sep
2011
12 Sep
'11
8 a.m.
I have a simple little usb-thingy that I want to record sound from. It
shows up just fine in audacity, but when I press record with it set as
the input device, audacity freezes completely, and I have to kill it.
I've tried ecasound and qarecord, but I couldn't really make any of
them work. Anyone have any experience with this? Should I just try an
older version of audacity? Just looking for some hints before I start
the whole downgrading process (the older, "stable", version of
audacity comes with the thingy, so that's supposed to work).
Arve
12 Sep
12 Sep
9:40 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arve Barsnes"
<arve.barsnes(a)gmail.com>
To: "linux-audio-user" <linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:00:35 AM
Subject: [LAU] Alternative to audacity for simple non-jack recording?
I have a simple little usb-thingy that I want to record sound from.
It
shows up just fine in audacity, but when I press record with it set
as
the input device, audacity freezes completely, and I have to kill it.
I've tried ecasound and qarecord, but I couldn't really make any of
them work. Anyone have any experience with this? Should I just try an
older version of audacity? Just looking for some hints before I start
the whole downgrading process (the older, "stable", version of
audacity comes with the thingy, so that's supposed to work).
Arve
does arecord work?
9:42 a.m.
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 08:00:35AM +0200, Arve Barsnes wrote:
I have a simple little usb-thingy that I want to
record sound from. It
shows up just fine in audacity, but when I press record with it set as
the input device, audacity freezes completely, and I have to kill it.
I've tried ecasound and qarecord, but I couldn't really make any of
them work. Anyone have any experience with this? Should I just try an
older version of audacity? Just looking for some hints before I start
the whole downgrading process (the older, "stable", version of
audacity comes with the thingy, so that's supposed to work).
What about arecord?
--
Joel Roth
9:42 a.m.
On 09/12/2011 08:00 AM, Arve Barsnes wrote:
I have a simple little usb-thingy that I want to
record sound from. It
shows up just fine in audacity, but when I press record with it set as
the input device, audacity freezes completely, and I have to kill it.
I've tried ecasound and qarecord, but I couldn't really make any of
them work. Anyone have any experience with this? Should I just try an
older version of audacity? Just looking for some hints before I start
the whole downgrading process (the older, "stable", version of
audacity comes with the thingy, so that's supposed to work).
Arve
Hi Arve,
It is very very unlikely that it's related to audacity. Your device is
probably not correctly identified or supported by ALSA (the kernel
driver for sound-cards).
It may help to post the output of
sudo lsusb -v
and
cat /dev/sndstat
which will provide more info about the "little usb-thingy". I guess it
may mistakenly use some driver-settings for a similar compatible device.
Can you play audio?
aplay some-audio.wav
aplay -l # lists all audio devices
aplay -D DEVICENAME some-audio.wav
As to your subject: rezound is a great sound-file editor; but it won't
work either if arecord or qarecord do not work.
best,
robin
12:02 p.m.
On 12 September 2011 09:42, Robin Gareus <robin(a)gareus.org> wrote:
On 09/12/2011 08:00 AM, Arve Barsnes wrote:
The thing doesn't have any output mode according to the documentation.
Which makes sense, since it doesn't show up with aplay -l
lsusb output: http://pastebin.com/ZSRbSa5q
No such thing as /dev/sndstat. I'm on Gentoo if that makes any difference?
It's this device: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-cassette-capture-2-x-aa-82121
I see from a recent review that I might not care to get this working
if it's only mono, but any more hints as to why this isn't working
would be nice.
Arve
I have a simple little usb-thingy that I want to
record sound from. It
shows up just fine in audacity, but when I press record with it set as
the input device, audacity freezes completely, and I have to kill it.
I've tried ecasound and qarecord, but I couldn't really make any of
them work. Anyone have any experience with this? Should I just try an
older version of audacity? Just looking for some hints before I start
the whole downgrading process (the older, "stable", version of
audacity comes with the thingy, so that's supposed to work).
Arve
Hi Arve,
It is very very unlikely that it's related to audacity. Your device is
probably not correctly identified or supported by ALSA (the kernel
driver for sound-cards).
It may help to post the output of
sudo lsusb -v
and
cat /dev/sndstat
which will provide more info about the "little usb-thingy". I guess it
may mistakenly use some driver-settings for a similar compatible device.
Can you play audio?
aplay some-audio.wav
aplay -l # lists all audio devices
aplay -D DEVICENAME some-audio.wav
As to your subject: rezound is a great sound-file editor; but it won't
work either if arecord or qarecord do not work.
best,
robin
12:58 p.m.
On 09/12/2011 12:28 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:42 AM, Robin Gareus
<robin(a)gareus.org> wrote:
indeed what a faux pas.
I've searched the web for "0d8c:0121 linux" found
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=58591
"Re: No sound with ION Tape Express [Solved]"
I've only skimmed the page and alas it is not obvious how it was solved
:( maybe reading it through will help you.
Otherwise I suggest to send an email with the subject:
"No sound with C-Media USB-device 0d8c:0121"
to the LAD list to get Clemens 'ALSA' Ladisch's attention.
HTH,
robin
It may help to post the output of
sudo lsusb -v
and
cat /dev/sndstat
i think you mean cat /proc/asound/cards ? 
1:08 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Robin Gareus <robin(a)gareus.org> wrote:
On 09/12/2011 12:28 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
Can't believe a primary ALSA dev's surname is Ladisch! Talk about
growing into his name!
:D
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:42 AM, Robin Gareus
<robin(a)gareus.org> wrote:
indeed what a faux pas.
I've searched the web for "0d8c:0121 linux" found
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=58591
"Re: No sound with ION Tape Express [Solved]"
I've only skimmed the page and alas it is not obvious how it was solved
:( maybe reading it through will help you.
Otherwise I suggest to send an email with the subject:
"No sound with C-Media USB-device 0d8c:0121"
to the LAD list to get Clemens 'ALSA' Ladisch's attention. It may help to post the output of
sudo lsusb -v
and
cat /dev/sndstat
i think you mean cat /proc/asound/cards ?
HTH,
robin
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1:12 p.m.
On 12 September 2011 13:08, allcoms <allcoms(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Robin Gareus
<robin(a)gareus.org> wrote:
Thanks for the hints. I'll try to fiddle some more with audacity,
since it seems some people have made it work, but it seems like I'm
better off getting a better piece of equipment if I want any sort of
decent result from these recordings.
Arve
On 09/12/2011 12:28 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:42 AM, Robin Gareus
<robin(a)gareus.org> wrote:
indeed what a faux pas.
I've searched the web for "0d8c:0121 linux" found
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=58591
"Re: No sound with ION Tape Express [Solved]"
I've only skimmed the page and alas it is not obvious how it was solved
:( maybe reading it through will help you.
Otherwise I suggest to send an email with the subject:
"No sound with C-Media USB-device 0d8c:0121"
to the LAD list to get Clemens 'ALSA' Ladisch's attention. It may help to post the output of
sudo lsusb -v
and
cat /dev/sndstat
i think you mean cat /proc/asound/cards ?
1:26 p.m.
On 12 September 2011 13:14, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Arve Barsnes
<arve.barsnes(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Really? I was under the impression that if one of them didn't work,
none of them would? I'll check it out nonetheless, thanks Paul.
Thanks for the hints. I'll try to fiddle some
more with audacity,
as several people have noted, it would be much better to fiddle more
with arecord first.
5:58 p.m.
On 12 September 2011 13:26, Arve Barsnes <arve.barsnes(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 12 September 2011 13:14, Paul Davis
<paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
Indeed, arecord at least gave me the error that put me on the right
track. It seems it was a bandwidth problem because of my USB hub (even
though it's 2.0). I plugged it into a USB port connected directly to
my motherboard, and now arecord records from it just fine. Now to try
the same with audacity and figure out if it is capable of stereo or
not.
Thanks for the help everyone!
Arve
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Arve Barsnes
<arve.barsnes(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Really? I was under the impression that if one of them didn't work,
none of them would? I'll check it out nonetheless, thanks Paul.
Thanks for the hints. I'll try to fiddle some
more with audacity,
as several people have noted, it would be much better to fiddle more
with arecord first.
11:51 p.m.
On 09/12/2011 05:58 PM, Arve Barsnes wrote:
On 12 September 2011 13:26, Arve Barsnes
<arve.barsnes(a)gmail.com> wrote:
to wrap it up and future reference: The detailed explanation for this
phenomena (connecting USB1.x audio devices on a 2.0 hub) can be found in
the thread:
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2010-October/029509.h…
instead of directly connecting the device, you could use an USB1.x hub
or disable USB 2.0 for the port as outlined in
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2010-October/029511.h…
best,
robin
On 12 September 2011 13:14, Paul Davis
<paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
Indeed, arecord at least gave me the error that put me on the right
track. It seems it was a bandwidth problem because of my USB hub (even
though it's 2.0). I plugged it into a USB port connected directly to
my motherboard, and now arecord records from it just fine. Now to try
the same with audacity and figure out if it is capable of stereo or
not.
Thanks for the help everyone! On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Arve Barsnes
<arve.barsnes(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Really? I was under the impression that if one of them didn't work,
none of them would? I'll check it out nonetheless, thanks Paul.
Thanks for the hints. I'll try to fiddle some
more with audacity,
as several people have noted, it would be much better to fiddle more
with arecord first.
13 Sep
13 Sep
10:46 a.m.
Paul Davis wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Arve Barsnes
<arve.barsnes(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe. My UCA-202 records fine using Audacity. I couldn't get arecord to
record anything from it, but I wasn't really trying that hard. When I
try to record using JACK, JACK fails to start up, reporting something
about an impossible sample size.
My feeling based on the original poster's info is that his device is
only marginally supported by ALSA.
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
Thanks for the hints. I'll try to fiddle some
more with audacity,
as several people have noted, it would be much better to fiddle more
with arecord first.
12:29 p.m.
On 13 September 2011 10:46, david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Indeed, it is probably the cheapest thing available. But contrary to
your experience, I still couldn't get audacity to work, but arecord
worked just fine. That's probably some mismatch on what kind of
quality audio audacity is expecting though, and the same is probably
true of your device.
as several
people have noted, it would be much better to fiddle more
with arecord first.
Maybe. My UCA-202 records fine using Audacity. I couldn't get arecord to
record anything from it, but I wasn't really trying that hard. When I try to
record using JACK, JACK fails to start up, reporting something about an
impossible sample size.
My feeling based on the original poster's info is that his device is only
marginally supported by ALSA.
14 Sep
14 Sep
10:27 a.m.
Arve Barsnes wrote:
On 13 September 2011 10:46, david
<gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Indeed, it is probably the cheapest thing available. But contrary to
your experience, I still couldn't get audacity to work, but arecord
worked just fine. That's probably some mismatch on what kind of
quality audio audacity is expecting though, and the same is probably
true of your device.
Mine works with Audacity with no problems. I don't know if it works with
arecord - didn't put the time into figuring out arecord's command line
options to find it out. While JACK just barfs. Hard to figure, why JACK
and ALSA work fine for output through it, but not input, while Audacity
works fine for both input and output.
Anyway, this is a Lenny system, planning to upgrade it to a Sid system.
That will bring in newer ALSA and JACK, so if it's an issue buried in
ALSA or JACK, perhaps it will be fixed.
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
as
several people have noted, it would be much better to fiddle more
with arecord first.
Maybe. My UCA-202 records fine using Audacity. I couldn't
get arecord to
record anything from it, but I wasn't really trying that hard. When I try to
record using JACK, JACK fails to start up, reporting something about an
impossible sample size.
My feeling based on the original poster's info is that his device is only
marginally supported by ALSA.
8:25 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 08:00:35AM +0200, Arve Barsnes wrote:
I have a simple little usb-thingy that I want to
record sound from. It
shows up just fine in audacity, but when I press record with it set as
the input device, audacity freezes completely, and I have to kill it.
I've tried ecasound and qarecord, but I couldn't really make any of
them work. Anyone have any experience with this? Should I just try an
older version of audacity? Just looking for some hints before I start
the whole downgrading process (the older, "stable", version of
audacity comes with the thingy, so that's supposed to work).
+1 for arecord.
On my sound card, I have to use: "arecord -f S16_LE -r 44100"
Although, for simple recording like that, I prefer to use JACK and jack_capture. That
would add the complexity for you of configuring JACK, so arecord seems like the win.
In the old days (2001-2005), I vaguely remember using sox for recording, but my memory has
been fading fast, so I don't recall the details.
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