5 Mar
2010
5 Mar
'10
5:43 a.m.
Hi, does anyone know a synth powerfull like zynadd, phasex or
bristol,but in dssi format? I need something I can load into Rosegarden,
since I dont want 10 Standalones running, until ardour, rg and the
synths support LASH, if that ever happens.
I think LASH should be integrated into Jack, to make it mandatory for
linux audio apps. The missing LASH support is one of the main issues
disturbing me, when working with linux audio. Now I've said it, ha.
I'm thinking of having Jack require a Load/Save callback, prior to
activating the client. How feasible is that?
What do you think?
Gerald
5 Mar
5 Mar
5:58 a.m.
Gerald Mwangi wrote:
Hi, does anyone know a synth powerfull like zynadd,
phasex or
bristol,but in dssi format? I need something I can load into Rosegarden,
since I dont want 10 Standalones running, until ardour, rg and the
synths support LASH, if that ever happens.
Whysynth (http://smbolton.com/whysynth.html) is perhaps the most
powerful DSSI softsynth around. It has a tonne of features (it pulls in
for its oscillators and filters from various other apps) and flexible
modulation. I haven't used it a lot myself, but it definitely seems
quite capable.
Thanks
Leigh
6:27 a.m.
On 03/05/2010 11:57 AM, Leigh Dyer wrote:
Gerald Mwangi wrote:
Or the CALF Organ.
Best,
Jeremy
Hi, does anyone know a synth powerfull like
zynadd, phasex or
bristol,but in dssi format? I need something I can load into Rosegarden,
since I dont want 10 Standalones running, until ardour, rg and the
synths support LASH, if that ever happens.
Whysynth (http://smbolton.com/whysynth.html) is perhaps the most
powerful DSSI softsynth around. It has a tonne of features (it pulls in
for its oscillators and filters from various other apps) and flexible
modulation. I haven't used it a lot myself, but it definitely seems
quite capable.
Thanks
Leigh 
11:16 a.m.
New subject: [LAD] Descent synth as dssi
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Gerald Mwangi <gerald.mwangi(a)gmx.de> wrote:
Hi, does anyone know a synth powerfull like zynadd,
phasex or
bristol,but in dssi format? I need something I can load into Rosegarden,
since I dont want 10 Standalones running, until ardour, rg and the
synths support LASH, if that ever happens.
I have no idea why, but I have a warm, fuzzy soft place in my heart
for DSSI plugins. they always seem to just work. whysynth has
already been mentioned, but be sure to check out the calf monosynth,
which can be run as a DSSI plugin:
jack-dssi-host calf.so:Monosynth
check out the DSSI home page too, for a lot of other options.
I'm hoping this thread will reveal some that I don't know about! we
really need something like specimen in DSSI format.
I think LASH should be integrated into Jack, to make
it mandatory for
linux audio apps. The missing LASH support is one of the main issues
disturbing me, when working with linux audio. Now I've said it, ha.
I'm thinking of having Jack require a Load/Save callback, prior to
activating the client. How feasible is that?
why oh why oh why did you throw this paragraph in? now no one wants
to talk about DSSI anymore... :(
--
Josh Lawrence
http://www.hardbop200.com
6 Mar
6 Mar
1:21 a.m.
New subject: [LAD] Descent synth as dssi
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:16:51AM -0600, Josh Lawrence wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Gerald Mwangi
<gerald.mwangi(a)gmx.de> wrote:
+1 for Calf Monosynth and WhySynth. They, in addition to AMS and PHASEX, are the synths
I've used most.
Zyn is kind of old and doesn't do RT; the new thing is Yoshimi, and I dunno if it
supports LASH or ladish, but I'd guess both.
For the record, I *HATE* session management and I don't run LASH at all when I can
avoid it (IIRC, there's some synth that I use or used which requires LASH, so I
occasionally have to start it up).
I generally can't stand technologies that try to be "smart" and do things I
don't explicitly instruct them to do. Frustrates the hell out of me.
FWIW, I am also the kind of guy who turns off autocomplete and spelling checkers whenever
I can.
-ken
Hi, does anyone know a synth powerfull like
zynadd, phasex or
bristol,but in dssi format? I need something I can load into Rosegarden,
since I dont want 10 Standalones running, until ardour, rg and the
synths support LASH, if that ever happens.
I have no idea why, but I have a warm, fuzzy soft place in my heart
for DSSI plugins. they always seem to just work. whysynth has
already been mentioned, but be sure to check out the calf monosynth,
which can be run as a DSSI plugin:
jack-dssi-host calf.so:Monosynth
check out the DSSI home page too, for a lot of other options.
I'm hoping this thread will reveal some that I don't know about! we
really need something like specimen in DSSI format.
I think LASH should be integrated into Jack, to
make it mandatory for
linux audio apps. The missing LASH support is one of the main issues
disturbing me, when working with linux audio. Now I've said it, ha.
I'm thinking of having Jack require a Load/Save callback, prior to
activating the client. How feasible is that?
why oh why oh why did you throw this paragraph in? now no one wants
to talk about DSSI anymore... :(
2:13 a.m.
New subject: [LAD] Descent synth as dssi
Ken Restivo wrote:
FWIW, I am also the kind of guy who turns off
autocomplete and spelling checkers whenever I can.
Here, here! I spell much better than spellcheckers - I can tell when
"there" or "their" are misspelled ... ;~)
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
3:13 a.m.
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On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:13 PM, david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Here, here! I spell much better than spellcheckers - I can tell when
"there" or "their" are misspelled ... ;~)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear,_hear
o.O
3:05 p.m.
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michael noble wrote:
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:13 PM, david
<gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
News to me - I've always seen it as "Here, here!" Meaning "Here I am, I
agree."
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
Here, here! I spell much better than
spellcheckers - I can tell when
"there" or "their" are misspelled ... ;~)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear,_hear
o.O 
4:57 p.m.
New subject: [LAD] Descent synth as dssi
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:05:01 -1000
david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
michael noble wrote:
Must be a 'regional' thing :)
I was taught Hear! Hear!
... and you don't want to know how long ago that was :o
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:13 PM, david
<gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
News to me - I've always seen it as "Here, here!" Meaning "Here I am,
I
agree." Here, here! I spell much better than
spellcheckers - I can tell when
"there" or "their" are misspelled ... ;~)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear,_hear
o.O
8:58 p.m.
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Folderol wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:05:01 -1000
david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Probably about as long ago as I learned "Here, here!", too. What will
the world do for music after all the boomers die? ;-)
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
michael noble wrote:
Must be a 'regional' thing :)
I was taught Hear! Hear!
... and you don't want to know how long ago that was :o On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:13 PM, david
<gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
News to me - I've always seen it as "Here, here!" Meaning
"Here I am, I
agree." Here, here! I spell much better than
spellcheckers - I can tell when
"there" or "their" are misspelled ... ;~)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear,_hear
o.O 
4:47 a.m.
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Ken Restivo wrote:
[ ... ]
Zyn is kind of old and doesn't do RT; the new thing is Yoshimi, and I dunno if
it supports LASH or ladish, but I'd guess both.
Not LASH, just LADI 1. In collaboration with Stephen G. Parry, there's some
exploration of yoshimi dssi in progress, but it's early days on that front.
cheers, Cal
5:55 a.m.
New subject: [LAD] Descent synth as dssi
Hi, well I'm also not the auto spellcheck guy. I just need something
that saves the state of the session. No auto bla bla. It should save,
when I click 'save session', pressumebly just causing all the apps to do
their internal save operation.
+1 for Calf Monosynth and WhySynth. They, in addition
to AMS and PHASEX, are the synths I've used most.
Zyn is kind of old and doesn't do RT; the new thing is Yoshimi, and I dunno if it
supports LASH or ladish, but I'd guess both.
For the record, I *HATE* session management and I don't run LASH at all when I can
avoid it (IIRC, there's some synth that I use or used which requires LASH, so I
occasionally have to start it up).
I generally can't stand technologies that try to be "smart" and do things I
don't explicitly instruct them to do. Frustrates the hell out of me.
FWIW, I am also the kind of guy who turns off autocomplete and spelling checkers whenever
I can.
-ken
9 Mar
9 Mar
1:05 p.m.
New subject: [LAD] Descent synth as dssi
Am 06.03.2010 um 07:19 schrieb Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org>rg>:
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:16:51AM -0600, Josh
Lawrence wrote:
How would you share a complicated production setup, aka session, with
other users? Script, or text explanation? Screenshot? Ardour audio
project only?
I'd love to have a rather bullet proof way to make my sessions
available to non-geek collaborators really fast and easy. And vice
versa.
Software trying to outsmart the user can be painful. On the other
hand, there are users out there waiting to hop on the linux audio boat
as soon as there is an obvious way to save and restore complex setups
without scripting. I'd love to make music with them.
It's good that you are happy with your way of using your DAW and so am
I. But it makes me a little sad sometimes that for remote
collaborators the learning curve is so steep.
- Burkhard
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Gerald Mwangi
<gerald.mwangi(a)gmx.de> wrote:
+1 for Calf Monosynth and WhySynth. They, in addition to AMS and
PHASEX, are the synths I've used most.
Zyn is kind of old and doesn't do RT; the new thing is Yoshimi, and
I dunno if it supports LASH or ladish, but I'd guess both.
For the record, I *HATE* session management and I don't run LASH at
all when I can avoid it (IIRC, there's some synth that I use or used
which requires LASH, so I occasionally have to start it up).
I generally can't stand technologies that try to be "smart" and do
things I don't explicitly instruct them to do. Frustrates the hell
out of me.
FWIW, I am also the kind of guy who turns off autocomplete and
spelling checkers whenever I can.
Hi, does anyone know a synth powerfull like
zynadd, phasex or
bristol,but in dssi format? I need something I can load into
Rosegarden,
since I dont want 10 Standalones running, until ardour, rg and the
synths support LASH, if that ever happens.
I have no idea why, but I have a warm, fuzzy soft place in my heart
for DSSI plugins. they always seem to just work. whysynth has
already been mentioned, but be sure to check out the calf monosynth,
which can be run as a DSSI plugin:
jack-dssi-host calf.so:Monosynth
check out the DSSI home page too, for a lot of other options.
I'm hoping this thread will reveal some that I don't know about! we
really need something like specimen in DSSI format.
I think LASH should be integrated into Jack, to
make it mandatory
for
linux audio apps. The missing LASH support is one of the main issues
disturbing me, when working with linux audio. Now I've said it, ha.
I'm thinking of having Jack require a Load/Save callback, prior to
activating the client. How feasible is that?
why oh why oh why did you throw this paragraph in? now no one wants
to talk about DSSI anymore... :(
-ken
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2:43 p.m.
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2010/3/9 Burkhard Wölfel <versuchsanstalt(a)gmx.de>de>:
How would you share a complicated production setup, aka session, with
other users? Script, or text explanation? Screenshot? Ardour audio
project only? ... there are users out there waiting to hop on the linux audio boat
as soon as there is an obvious way to save and restore complex setups
without scripting
Since I always use shell scripts to get as close as I can to a
particular set-up state, I would love to see more support for that, to
the point that it doesn't have to look like scripting to an end user.
For example, each app could respond to a message to return its state
in shell-script form, like a ~/.jackdrc file, and the session saver
would simply append these to a startup script that it can run behind
the scenes to restore the session. Of course, active connections
among apps need to be uniquely identified in some way (OSC?), and apps
should be able to accept connection specifications that are not
immediately "ready", etc., so that the segments can be run in any
order.
Julius
--
"Anybody who knows all about nothing knows everything" -- Leonard Susskind
2:52 p.m.
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2010/3/9 Julius Smith <julius.smith(a)gmail.com>om>:
Since I always use shell scripts to get as close as I
can to a
particular set-up state, I would love to see more support for that, to
the point that it doesn't have to look like scripting to an end user.
For example, each app could respond to a message to return its state
in shell-script form, like a ~/.jackdrc file, and the session saver
would simply append these to a startup script that it can run behind
the scenes to restore the session. Of course, active connections
among apps need to be uniquely identified in some way (OSC?), and apps
should be able to accept connection specifications that are not
immediately "ready", etc., so that the segments can be run in any
order.
this is all part of the current proposal to add session mgmt to jack,
which has been discussed a great deal on the jack mailing list.
2:56 p.m.
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On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 02:51:59PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
2010/3/9 Julius Smith <julius.smith(a)gmail.com>om>:
The biggest hassle I have with saving setups, is auto-save. Things change, and get saved,
and I didn't want them to be. I don't recall if that happened with LASH, but I
suspect it might have once, and if so it would explain why I swore off it forever after
that.
If the new JACK session feature only saves things when I ask it to, then sure, that could
be useful. Even better if it saves its state in a format that is human-readable and can be
diff'ed, or put into git for versioning.
-ken
Since I always use shell scripts to get as close
as I can to a
particular set-up state, I would love to see more support for that, to
the point that it doesn't have to look like scripting to an end user.
For example, each app could respond to a message to return its state
in shell-script form, like a ~/.jackdrc file, and the session saver
would simply append these to a startup script that it can run behind
the scenes to restore the session. ?Of course, ?active connections
among apps need to be uniquely identified in some way (OSC?), and apps
should be able to accept connection specifications that are not
immediately "ready", etc., so that the segments can be run in any
order.
this is all part of the current proposal to add session mgmt to jack,
which has been discussed a great deal on the jack mailing list.
3:13 p.m.
New subject: [LAD] Descent synth as dssi
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
If the new JACK session feature only saves things when
I ask it to, then sure, that could be useful. Even better if it saves its state in a
format that is human-readable and can be diff'ed, or put into git for versioning.
it doesn't change anything about how applications save state. it
merely provides for a unified way to initiate a save, and a unified
way to restart everything back in the same state (or as close as each
individual application will allow.
6 Mar
6 Mar
6:04 a.m.
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Hi,
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 10:16 -0600, Josh Lawrence wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Gerald Mwangi
<gerald.mwangi(a)gmx.de> wrote:
Sorry I'm just in the middle of a production, and had to explode a
litte. I was experimenting with a lot of synths and found those to be
usefull, which aren't in plugin format.
Hi, does anyone know a synth powerfull like
zynadd, phasex or
bristol,but in dssi format? I need something I can load into Rosegarden,
since I dont want 10 Standalones running, until ardour, rg and the
synths support LASH, if that ever happens.
I have no idea why, but I have a warm, fuzzy soft place in my heart
for DSSI plugins. they always seem to just work. whysynth has
already been mentioned, but be sure to check out the calf monosynth,
which can be run as a DSSI plugin:
jack-dssi-host calf.so:Monosynth
check out the DSSI home page too, for a lot of other options.
I'm hoping this thread will reveal some that I don't know about! we
really need something like specimen in DSSI format.
I think LASH should be integrated into Jack, to
make it mandatory for
linux audio apps. The missing LASH support is one of the main issues
disturbing me, when working with linux audio. Now I've said it, ha.
I'm thinking of having Jack require a Load/Save callback, prior to
activating the client. How feasible is that?
why oh why oh why did you throw this paragraph in?
now no one wants
to talk about DSSI anymore... :(
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