27 May
2010
27 May
'10
9:09 p.m.
Hey all,
I used to produce some dubstep songs (totally synthesized) using various
proprietary solutions,
but I'm recently attracted to the bass frequencies again.
Hence I'm looking for a good synth for bass, with plenty of assignable
LFO's, Portamento, and... sounding good!
I've a little experience with MX44, another little bit with AlsaMod Synth, a
bit of a giggle with ZynSubAdd, a play around
with the recent Yoshimi, but I'm not convinced of any really heavy bass yet.
Chances are that I've not got the right settings for the synth, Just
wondering if there's any dubstep guys out there using linux synths,
or if anybody has any PD dubstep patches?
Cheers, -Harry
27 May
27 May
9:17 p.m.
Hey Harry,
Why not try layering them together and perhaps adding some light distortion
or something to the sound?
Incidentally, I did do a 'wobble' bass for Bristol's Prophet52 emulation in
this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPX5kNxRsy4 (around 0:49 or so).
All in all, I'd say just try layering them together to create a really big
boomy bass sound!
Andrew.
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Harry Van Haaren <harryhaaren(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hey all,
I used to produce some dubstep songs (totally synthesized) using various
proprietary solutions,
but I'm recently attracted to the bass frequencies again.
Hence I'm looking for a good synth for bass, with plenty of assignable
LFO's, Portamento, and... sounding good!
I've a little experience with MX44, another little bit with AlsaMod Synth,
a bit of a giggle with ZynSubAdd, a play around
with the recent Yoshimi, but I'm not convinced of any really heavy bass
yet.
Chances are that I've not got the right settings for the synth, Just
wondering if there's any dubstep guys out there using linux synths,
or if anybody has any PD dubstep patches?
Cheers, -Harry
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9:25 p.m.
Hi,
Why not try layering them together and perhaps adding some light distortion
or something to the sound?
Incidentally, I did do a 'wobble' bass for Bristol's Prophet52
Nice one, that'd do ;-)
I think i've got them running on my studio pc anyway, I'd better check them
out. Cheers for the suggestion,
for some reason they didnt come to mind straight away when i was browsing
synths..
PD patches & more suggestions welcome of course.. but Ill have a mess with
bristol now anyway.
Cheers, -Harry
9:29 p.m.
Excerpts from Harry Van Haaren's message of 2010-05-27 21:09:26 +0200:
Hey all,
I used to produce some dubstep songs (totally synthesized) using various
proprietary solutions,
but I'm recently attracted to the bass frequencies again.
Hence I'm looking for a good synth for bass, with plenty of assignable
LFO's, Portamento, and... sounding good!
I've a little experience with MX44, another little bit with AlsaMod Synth, a
bit of a giggle with ZynSubAdd, a play around
with the recent Yoshimi, but I'm not convinced of any really heavy bass yet.
Chances are that I've not got the right settings for the synth, Just
wondering if there's any dubstep guys out there using linux synths,
or if anybody has any PD dubstep patches?
Cheers, -Harry
I don't know whether it's the right kind of bass, but nekobee is an
afaik quite realistic TB-303 emulation. xsynth seems to be quite simple
but popular, phasex is very powerful and there are plenty more options
(3x calf, analogmodellingsynth, ...), hell, you could try to paint your
basslines using arss :)
HTH at least a little
--
Regards,
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9:41 p.m.
Isn't Dubstep bass all about FM synthesis?
You really can't get that complex harmonic bwaaaap sound with just
filters alone. The muse of Chowning must be invoked.
My Yam db60xg (NEC XR385 actually) has several awesome basses, and if
it's not right, use qxgedit to morph it into one, and then twiddle
around the filter x-over, widths and slopes (graphically by mouse, it
rocks) and ADSR based on the bpm of the bass you're playing and you're
like there dude :-) . I'm not sure how much of these AWM2 basses are
"just filters alone" versus FM, versus FM'd samples of basses (which
is what makes yamaha's sound so good). But whatever it is, it works.
Also, some of their excellent sounding patches are actually
combinations of two voices, each with their own sets of filters etc.
See also Yamaha SY77 and SY99 and their emulations, which have good
bass sounds with rich modulation.
Regarding the db50xg -- Rui was absolutely right when he wrote (
http://www.rncbc.org/drupal/node/151 ): "This is strictly pure
nineties memorabilia but one of the finest pieces of junk you could
rig into a PC and turn it on a full-fledged rave machine. Do you
remember the days? Awe my 8)"
Since FM is probably one of the easiest forms of synthesis to
"compute" (c.f. chowning) look for Yamaha FM bass patches for
starters. Consider also the deicsonze (french for Dx11) synth, such as
comes with Muse: /usr/lib64/muse/synthi/deicsonze.so
Niels
http://nielsmayer.com
PS: A quick google search gives:
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2010/04/27/dub-step-bass-design-with-able…
"I use multiple instruments to construct the sound. I use FM syntheses
to create some really interesting tones and movement within the
sound."
10:01 p.m.
Harry Van Haaren wrote:
Hey all,
I used to produce some dubstep songs (totally synthesized) using various
proprietary solutions,
but I'm recently attracted to the bass frequencies again.
Hence I'm looking for a good synth for bass, with plenty of assignable
LFO's, Portamento, and... sounding good!
I've a little experience with MX44, another little bit with AlsaMod Synth, a
bit of a giggle with ZynSubAdd, a play around
with the recent Yoshimi, but I'm not convinced of any really heavy bass yet.
Chances are that I've not got the right settings for the synth, Just
wondering if there's any dubstep guys out there using linux synths,
or if anybody has any PD dubstep patches?
Cheers, -Harry
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Hello Harry,
There was some discussion about this recently on the Ubuntu forums:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1406531
Maybe the info in that thread could be useful, some ZASFX presets were
posted, together with some YouTube links.
Best,
Jeremy
10:09 p.m.
There was some discussion about this recently on the
Ubuntu forums:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1406531
Maybe the info in that thread could be useful, some ZASFX presets were
posted, together with some YouTube links.
Hey,
That forum link is exactly what I was looking for cheers. Kinda like some of
Worker Ant's stuff too.
Do expect an email "enquiring" about your setup/choice of programs if thats
you.
-Harry
10:27 p.m.
Harry Van Haaren wrote:
Hello Harry,
No Worker Ant = g-raf. My nick is AutoStatic.
Best,
Jeremy
There was some
discussion about this recently on the Ubuntu forums:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1406531
Maybe the info in that thread could be useful, some ZASFX presets were
posted, together with some YouTube links.
Hey,
That forum link is exactly what I was looking for cheers. Kinda like some of
Worker Ant's stuff too.
Do expect an email "enquiring" about your setup/choice of programs if thats
you.
-Harry
10:32 p.m.
Jeremy Jongepier was like:
No Worker Ant = g-raf. My nick is AutoStatic.
Cheers, I've clicked onto his Youtube, from there to his SoundCloud, from
there I've gotten his setup
(almost deafeats the purpose of emailing, even though I still wanna know if
its all done live or sequenced),
but I've gotten his e-mail n asked just that.
The aul Internet is madness isn't it!?!
-Harry
10:35 p.m.
I've been able to make pretty much any sound I want with Drumsynth
http://www.anticore.org/jucetice/?page_id=7
Thank you
Ronald Stewart
www.indamixx.com
ronaldjstewart(a)gmail.com
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Harry Van Haaren <harryhaaren(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Jeremy Jongepier was like:
No Worker Ant = g-raf. My nick is AutoStatic.
Cheers, I've clicked onto his Youtube, from there to his SoundCloud, from
there I've gotten his setup
(almost deafeats the purpose of emailing, even though I still wanna know if
its all done live or sequenced),
but I've gotten his e-mail n asked just that.
The aul Internet is madness isn't it!?!
-Harry
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28 May
28 May
3:35 p.m.
Ronald Stewart wrote:
I've been able to make pretty much any sound I
want with Drumsynth
http://www.anticore.org/jucetice/?page_id=7
Thank you
Ronald Stewart
www.indamixx.com
ronaldjstewart(a)gmail.com
Gee, some nice apps available over there! Thanks for the link!!
Best,
Jeremy
27 May
27 May
10:42 p.m.
maybe sineshaper.
I do not know the theory of dubstep bass
but IMHO it can sound alike.
best,
d
10:56 p.m.
Harry Van Haaren a écrit :
Hey all,
I used to produce some dubstep songs (totally synthesized) using various
proprietary solutions,
but I'm recently attracted to the bass frequencies again.
Hence I'm looking for a good synth for bass, with plenty of assignable
LFO's, Portamento, and... sounding good!
Hi Harry
I'd say Phasex, it can do really fat basslines.
I think it's great for drum and bass (reece ...) but it should also work
for dubstep with more lfo modulation.
Regards
Florent
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-----------------------------
Research:
http://vimeo.com/9206485
http://www.labri.fr/perso/berthaut
Software:
http://tardigrade-inc.com
Music:
http://hitmuri.com
http://thehobartphase.com
28 May
28 May
5:45 a.m.
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 08:09:26PM +0100, Harry Van Haaren wrote:
Hey all,
I used to produce some dubstep songs (totally synthesized) using various
proprietary solutions,
but I'm recently attracted to the bass frequencies again.
Hence I'm looking for a good synth for bass, with plenty of assignable
LFO's, Portamento, and... sounding good!
I've a little experience with MX44, another little bit with AlsaMod Synth, a
bit of a giggle with ZynSubAdd, a play around
with the recent Yoshimi, but I'm not convinced of any really heavy bass yet.
Chances are that I've not got the right settings for the synth, Just
wondering if there's any dubstep guys out there using linux synths,
or if anybody has any PD dubstep patches?
AMS if you want binary packages, or Ingen if you feel like chasing CVS.
Put in dozens of LFO's if you like; the sky's the limit.
-ken
1 Jun
1 Jun
11:14 p.m.
Harry Van Haaren wrote:
Hey all,
I used to produce some dubstep songs (totally synthesized) using various
proprietary solutions,
but I'm recently attracted to the bass frequencies again.
Hence I'm looking for a good synth for bass, with plenty of assignable
LFO's, Portamento, and... sounding good!
I've a little experience with MX44, another little bit with AlsaMod Synth, a
bit of a giggle with ZynSubAdd, a play around
with the recent Yoshimi, but I'm not convinced of any really heavy bass yet.
Chances are that I've not got the right settings for the synth, Just
wondering if there's any dubstep guys out there using linux synths,
or if anybody has any PD dubstep patches?
Cheers, -Harry
Hello Harry,
With the help of some manuals I managed to create a pretty ok Dubstep
wobble bass in Yoshimi. You can get the instrument file here:
http://linux.autostatic.com/temp/Dubstep.xiz
Hope it's of any help ;)
All wobbly,
Jeremy
5 Jun
5 Jun
1:11 a.m.
With the help of some manuals I managed to create a
pretty ok Dubstep
wobble bass in Yoshimi.
Cheers, there's too much going on at the moment for me to properly check it
out,
hopefully tomorrow I'll get to load it up though.
Glad there was such a response.. nice to have fellow "wobble bass" peoples
about!
-Harry
1:55 p.m.
Harry Van Haaren wrote:
Hello Harry,
You're welcome. And apparently my Dubstep instrument for Yoshimi was
good enough to get included in the latest Yoshimi release (thanks
Cal!!). If you want to control the wobbles it is possible to set the
Freq. LFO to zero and insert a Phaser effect in the chain and control
its LFO with NRPN messages. I took a look at it yesterday but apparently
my M-Audio Oxygen doesn't send out correct NRPN messages so Yoshimi
doesn't pick them up or I simply don't understand how to properly
program the right NRPN stuff). But I just got some new toys in (a
Behringer BCF2000 and a BCR2000), hopefully I'll get it to work with
those. Otherwise it would be an option to fire up an instance of
Rakarrack with a Phaser effect and control the LFO of the Phaser with MIDI.
I've also taken a look at PHASEX but I don't grasp how everything is
routed internally so I just don't manage to get anything useful out of it.
amSynth is not suited for Dubstep wobbles, it simply lacks the proper
functionality.
Maybe Bristol could pull the trick too.
For those who have no clue what this is about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQMpJ5lURQ (a classic that we spin
regularly at our parties)
Best,
Jeremy
With the help
of some manuals I managed to create a pretty ok Dubstep
wobble bass in Yoshimi.
Cheers, there's too much going on at the moment for me to properly check it
out,
hopefully tomorrow I'll get to load it up though.
Glad there was such a response.. nice to have fellow "wobble bass" peoples
about!
-Harry
2:15 p.m.
Hey Jeremy,
You sure that amsynth can't pull off a dubstep wobble bass?
The ingredients are relatively simple:
One lowpass filter
One LFO routed to the filter cutoff
One or Two Oscillators (I'd say having a sine or triangle an octave lower or
at the same pitch as the other oscillator would be good here).
Then just filter the oscs quite low to remove the highs and set the LFO
running fairly fast-ish!
Andrew.
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jeremy Jongepier <jeremy(a)autostatic.com>wrote;wrote:
Harry Van Haaren wrote:
it
With the
help of some manuals I managed to create a pretty ok Dubstep
wobble bass in Yoshimi.
Cheers, there's too much going on at the moment for me to properly check out,
hopefully tomorrow I'll get to load it up though.
Glad there was such a response.. nice to have fellow "wobble bass"
peoples
about!
-Harry
Hello Harry,
You're welcome. And apparently my Dubstep instrument for Yoshimi was
good enough to get included in the latest Yoshimi release (thanks
Cal!!). If you want to control the wobbles it is possible to set the
Freq. LFO to zero and insert a Phaser effect in the chain and control
its LFO with NRPN messages. I took a look at it yesterday but apparently
my M-Audio Oxygen doesn't send out correct NRPN messages so Yoshimi
doesn't pick them up or I simply don't understand how to properly
program the right NRPN stuff). But I just got some new toys in (a
Behringer BCF2000 and a BCR2000), hopefully I'll get it to work with
those. Otherwise it would be an option to fire up an instance of
Rakarrack with a Phaser effect and control the LFO of the Phaser with MIDI.
I've also taken a look at PHASEX but I don't grasp how everything is
routed internally so I just don't manage to get anything useful out of it.
amSynth is not suited for Dubstep wobbles, it simply lacks the proper
functionality.
Maybe Bristol could pull the trick too.
For those who have no clue what this is about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQMpJ5lURQ (a classic that we spin
regularly at our parties)
Best,
Jeremy
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7:11 p.m.
Hey Jeremy,
You sure that amsynth can't pull off a dubstep wobble bass?
The ingredients are relatively simple:
One lowpass filter
One LFO routed to the filter cutoff
One or Two Oscillators (I'd say having a sine or triangle an octave lower
or
at the same pitch as the other oscillator would be good here).
Then just filter the oscs quite low to remove the highs and set the LFO
running fairly fast-ish!
Just trying this setup out.
I have the following:
One lowpass filter
One LFO routed to the filter cutoff
LFO sine output -> Glame Low pass input
Check
One or Two Oscillators (I'd say having a sine or
triangle an octave lower
or at the same pitch as the other oscillator would be good here).
Que?
If you could clarify what the two oscillators are supposed to connect to
then I will build this example and post it here for everyone to play with.
Cheers.
Andrew.
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jeremy Jongepier
<jeremy(a)autostatic.com>wrote;wrote:
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Harry Van Haaren wrote:
check
it
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With the
help of some manuals I managed to create a pretty ok Dubstep
wobble bass in Yoshimi.
Cheers, there's too much going on at the moment for me to properly out,
hopefully tomorrow I'll get to load it up though.
Glad there was such a response.. nice to have fellow "wobble bass"
peoples
about!
-Harry
Hello Harry,
You're welcome. And apparently my Dubstep instrument for Yoshimi was
good enough to get included in the latest Yoshimi release (thanks
Cal!!). If you want to control the wobbles it is possible to set the
Freq. LFO to zero and insert a Phaser effect in the chain and control
its LFO with NRPN messages. I took a look at it yesterday but apparently
my M-Audio Oxygen doesn't send out correct NRPN messages so Yoshimi
doesn't pick them up or I simply don't understand how to properly
program the right NRPN stuff). But I just got some new toys in (a
Behringer BCF2000 and a BCR2000), hopefully I'll get it to work with
those. Otherwise it would be an option to fire up an instance of
Rakarrack with a Phaser effect and control the LFO of the Phaser with
MIDI.
I've also taken a look at PHASEX but I don't grasp how everything is
routed internally so I just don't manage to get anything useful out of
it.
amSynth is not suited for Dubstep wobbles, it simply lacks the proper
functionality.
Maybe Bristol could pull the trick too.
For those who have no clue what this is about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQMpJ5lURQ (a classic that we spin
regularly at our parties)
Best,
Jeremy
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7:27 p.m.
Hey Patrick,
A word of warning: I haven't used amSynth at all, but the general principles
should be the same for all synths (generalised statement after generalised
statement!).
Basically your signal chain should go:
Oscillators -> Filter in -> Output
^
|
LFO
So you should feed the connect the oscillators to the Glame Lowpass input as
well.
Hope this makes sense!
Andrew
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Patrick Shirkey
<pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com>wrote;wrote:
Hey Jeremy,
You sure that amsynth can't pull off a dubstep wobble bass?
The ingredients are relatively simple:
One lowpass filter
One LFO routed to the filter cutoff
One or Two Oscillators (I'd say having a sine or triangle an octave lower
or
at the same pitch as the other oscillator would be good here).
Then just filter the oscs quite low to remove the highs and set the LFO
running fairly fast-ish!
Just trying this setup out.
I have the following:
One lowpass filter
One LFO routed to the filter cutoff
LFO sine output -> Glame Low pass input
Check
One or Two Oscillators (I'd say having a sine
or triangle an octave lower
or at the same pitch as the other oscillator would be good here).
Que?
If you could clarify what the two oscillators are supposed to connect to
then I will build this example and post it here for everyone to play with.
Cheers.
Andrew.
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jeremy Jongepier
<jeremy(a)autostatic.com>wrote;wrote:
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Harry Van Haaren wrote:
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> With the help of some manuals I managed to
create a pretty ok Dubstep
> wobble bass in Yoshimi.
>
Cheers, there's too much going on at the moment for me to properly
check
it
out,
hopefully tomorrow I'll get to load it up though.
Glad there was such a response.. nice to have fellow "wobble bass"
peoples
about!
-Harry
Hello Harry,
You're welcome. And apparently my Dubstep instrument for Yoshimi was
good enough to get included in the latest Yoshimi release (thanks
Cal!!). If you want to control the wobbles it is possible to set the
Freq. LFO to zero and insert a Phaser effect in the chain and control
its LFO with NRPN messages. I took a look at it yesterday but apparently
my M-Audio Oxygen doesn't send out correct NRPN messages so Yoshimi
doesn't pick them up or I simply don't understand how to properly
program the right NRPN stuff). But I just got some new toys in (a
Behringer BCF2000 and a BCR2000), hopefully I'll get it to work with
those. Otherwise it would be an option to fire up an instance of
Rakarrack with a Phaser effect and control the LFO of the Phaser with
MIDI.
I've also taken a look at PHASEX but I don't grasp how everything is
routed internally so I just don't manage to get anything useful out of
it.
amSynth is not suited for Dubstep wobbles, it simply lacks the proper
functionality.
Maybe Bristol could pull the trick too.
For those who have no clue what this is about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQMpJ5lURQ (a classic that we spin
regularly at our parties)
Best,
Jeremy
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7:36 p.m.
Hey Patrick,
A word of warning: I haven't used amSynth at all, but the general
principles
should be the same for all synths (generalised statement after generalised
statement!).
Basically your signal chain should go:
Oscillators -> Filter in -> Output
^
|
LFO
So you should feed the connect the oscillators to the Glame Lowpass input
as
well.
Hope this makes sense!
Not sure if the ascii came out correct. So what I need is a low pass that
has two input connections? A CV input and a signal input?
The LFO feeds the cv input and the oscillator/s feed the normal(?) input.
Cheers.
Andrew
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Patrick Shirkey
<pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com>wrote;wrote:
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd.
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd.
Hey Jeremy,
You sure that amsynth can't pull off a dubstep wobble bass?
The ingredients are relatively simple:
One lowpass filter
One LFO routed to the filter cutoff
One or Two Oscillators (I'd say having a sine or triangle an octave
lower
or
at the same pitch as the other oscillator would be good here).
Then just filter the oscs quite low to remove the highs and set the
LFO
running fairly fast-ish!
Just trying this setup out.
I have the following:
One lowpass filter
One LFO routed to the filter cutoff
LFO sine output -> Glame Low pass input
Check
One or Two Oscillators (I'd say having a sine
or triangle an octave
lower
or at the same pitch as the other oscillator
would be good here).
Que?
If you could clarify what the two oscillators are supposed to connect to
then I will build this example and post it here for everyone to play
with.
Cheers.
Andrew.
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jeremy Jongepier
<jeremy(a)autostatic.com>wrote;wrote:
> Harry Van Haaren wrote:
> >> With the help of some manuals I managed to create a pretty ok
Dubstep
> >> wobble bass in Yoshimi.
> >>
> >
> > Cheers, there's too much going on at the moment for me to properly
> check
> it
> > out,
> > hopefully tomorrow I'll get to load it up though.
> >
> > Glad there was such a response.. nice to have fellow "wobble bass"
> peoples
> > about!
> > -Harry
> >
>
> Hello Harry,
>
> You're welcome. And apparently my Dubstep instrument for Yoshimi was
> good enough to get included in the latest Yoshimi release (thanks
> Cal!!). If you want to control the wobbles it is possible to set the
> Freq. LFO to zero and insert a Phaser effect in the chain and control
> its LFO with NRPN messages. I took a look at it yesterday but
apparently
> my M-Audio Oxygen doesn't send out
correct NRPN messages so Yoshimi
> doesn't pick them up or I simply don't understand how to properly
> program the right NRPN stuff). But I just got some new toys in (a
> Behringer BCF2000 and a BCR2000), hopefully I'll get it to work with
> those. Otherwise it would be an option to fire up an instance of
> Rakarrack with a Phaser effect and control the LFO of the Phaser with
> MIDI.
> I've also taken a look at PHASEX but I don't grasp how everything is
> routed internally so I just don't manage to get anything useful out
of
it.
amSynth is not suited for Dubstep wobbles, it simply lacks the proper
functionality.
Maybe Bristol could pull the trick too.
For those who have no clue what this is about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQMpJ5lURQ (a classic that we spin
regularly at our parties)
Best,
Jeremy
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Hey Patrick,
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> Basically your signal chain should go:
>
> Oscillators -> Filter in -> Output
> ^
> |
> LFO
>
[snip]
Not sure if the ascii came out correct. So what I need is a low pass that
has two input connections? A CV input and a signal input?
The LFO feeds the cv input and the oscillator/s feed the normal(?) input.
Using AMS, here's a nice ASCII-art patch. I'm omitting
unused ports, envelopes, and the MCV input, assuming you can
figure that part out.
+------+
| VCO |
= Freq | +------------+
| | | Mixer 2->1 |
| Sine =----= In 0 |
+------+ | |
+--= In 1 | +------+
+------+ | | | | VCF |
| VCO | | | Out =------= In |
= Freq | | +------------+ | |
| | | +---= Freq | +---------+
| Saw =-+ | | | | PCM Out |
+------+ +-------+ | | Out =---= Out 0 |
| LFO | | +------+ | |
| Sine =-----+ = Out 1 |
+-------+ +---------+
Note that at low freqs, the Sawtooth wave will easily overpower the
Sine-wave, so you may have to play with the Mixer to get the mix you
want.
-gabriel
8:37 p.m.
Hey Patrick,
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Ok, There are a couple :-) of example ams patches to play with here:
http://djcj.org/code/ams/
Specifically:
http://djcj.org/code/ams/dubstep-synth1.ams
You will need the full set of ladspa plugins from the default fedora repo
to work with them. No beta versions in this lot.
Cheers.
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd.
> Basically your signal chain should go:
>
> Oscillators -> Filter in -> Output
> ^
> |
> LFO
>
[snip]
Not sure if the ascii came out correct. So what I need is a low pass
that
has two input connections? A CV input and a signal input?
The LFO feeds the cv input and the oscillator/s feed the normal(?)
input.
Using AMS, here's a nice ASCII-art patch. I'm omitting
unused ports, envelopes, and the MCV input, assuming you can
figure that part out.
+------+
| VCO |
= Freq | +------------+
| | | Mixer 2->1 |
| Sine =----= In 0 |
+------+ | |
+--= In 1 | +------+
+------+ | | | | VCF |
| VCO | | | Out =------= In |
= Freq | | +------------+ | |
| | | +---= Freq | +---------+
| Saw =-+ | | | | PCM Out |
+------+ +-------+ | | Out =---= Out 0 |
| LFO | | +------+ | |
| Sine =-----+ = Out 1 |
+-------+ +---------+
Note that at low freqs, the Sawtooth wave will easily overpower the
Sine-wave, so you may have to play with the Mixer to get the mix you
want.
-gabriel
11:09 p.m.
Hey,
Oops! I didn't know you were using Alsa Modular Synth! I assumed you were
using AMSynth (Another linux synth)!
Thanks a lot Gabriel for that diagram! I will admit I'm useless at modular
'synthesis'!
Andrew.
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Patrick Shirkey
<pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com>wrote;wrote:
Hey Patrick,
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Ok, There are a couple :-) of example ams patches to play with here:
http://djcj.org/code/ams/
Specifically:
http://djcj.org/code/ams/dubstep-synth1.ams
You will need the full set of ladspa plugins from the default fedora repo
to work with them. No beta versions in this lot.
Cheers.
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd.
> Basically your signal chain should go:
>
> Oscillators -> Filter in -> Output
> ^
> |
> LFO
>
[snip]
Not sure if the ascii came out correct. So what I need is a low pass
that
has two input connections? A CV input and a signal input?
The LFO feeds the cv input and the oscillator/s feed the normal(?)
input.
Using AMS, here's a nice ASCII-art patch. I'm omitting
unused ports, envelopes, and the MCV input, assuming you can
figure that part out.
+------+
| VCO |
= Freq | +------------+
| | | Mixer 2->1 |
| Sine =----= In 0 |
+------+ | |
+--= In 1 | +------+
+------+ | | | | VCF |
| VCO | | | Out =------= In |
= Freq | | +------------+ | |
| | | +---= Freq | +---------+
| Saw =-+ | | | | PCM Out |
+------+ +-------+ | | Out =---= Out 0 |
| LFO | | +------+ | |
| Sine =-----+ = Out 1 |
+-------+ +---------+
Note that at low freqs, the Sawtooth wave will easily overpower the
Sine-wave, so you may have to play with the Mixer to get the mix you
want.
-gabriel
6 Jun
6 Jun
9:09 a.m.
Andrew C wrote:
Hey Jeremy,
You sure that amsynth can't pull off a dubstep wobble bass?
The ingredients are relatively simple:
One lowpass filter
One LFO routed to the filter cutoff
One or Two Oscillators (I'd say having a sine or triangle an octave lower or
at the same pitch as the other oscillator would be good here).
Then just filter the oscs quite low to remove the highs and set the LFO
running fairly fast-ish!
Andrew.
Hello Andrew,
Somehow I assumed amSynth wasn't MIDI controllable until I hit the
Config option in the menu :$
I'll take another look at it, amSynth is cool.
Best,
Jeremy
7 Jun
7 Jun
12:52 a.m.
Hey Jeremy,
I quickly did up this dubstep wobble bass using AMSynth. I set modwheel to
'filter_mod_amount' and CC 27 to 'LFO_Freq'.
Enjoy!
Andrew.
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Jeremy Jongepier <jeremy(a)autostatic.com>wrote;wrote:
Andrew C wrote:
Hey Jeremy,
You sure that amsynth can't pull off a dubstep wobble bass?
The ingredients are relatively simple:
One lowpass filter
One LFO routed to the filter cutoff
One or Two Oscillators (I'd say having a sine or triangle an octave lower
or
at the same pitch as the other oscillator would
be good here).
Then just filter the oscs quite low to remove the highs and set the LFO
running fairly fast-ish!
Andrew.
Hello Andrew,
Somehow I assumed amSynth wasn't MIDI controllable until I hit the
Config option in the menu :$
I'll take another look at it, amSynth is cool.
Best,
Jeremy
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6:47 p.m.
Harry Van Haaren wrote:
Hello Harry,
You're welcome. And apparently my Dubstep instrument for Yoshimi was
good enough to get included in the latest Yoshimi release (thanks
Cal!!). If you want to control the wobbles it is possible to set the
Freq. LFO to zero and insert a Phaser effect in the chain and control
its LFO with NRPN messages. I took a look at it yesterday but apparently
my M-Audio Oxygen doesn't send out correct NRPN messages so Yoshimi
doesn't pick them up or I simply don't understand how to properly
program the right NRPN stuff). But I just got some new toys in (a
Behringer BCF2000 and a BCR2000), hopefully I'll get it to work with
those. Otherwise it would be an option to fire up an instance of
Rakarrack with a Phaser effect and control the LFO of the Phaser with
MIDI.
I've also taken a look at PHASEX but I don't grasp how everything is
routed internally so I just don't manage to get anything useful out of it.
amSynth is not suited for Dubstep wobbles, it simply lacks the proper
functionality.
Maybe Bristol could pull the trick too.
For those who have no clue what this is about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQMpJ5lURQ (a classic that we spin
regularly at our parties)
Just to clarify, are you saying that that track was created with Linux
Software or that you can make sounds like that with your dubstep
instrument for Yoshimi?
This track is new enough that I would not be surprised if it was created
with Linux Software...
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd.
With the
help of some manuals I managed to create a pretty ok Dubstep
wobble bass in Yoshimi.
Cheers, there's too much going on at the moment for me to properly check
it
out,
hopefully tomorrow I'll get to load it up though.
Glad there was such a response.. nice to have fellow "wobble bass"
peoples
about!
-Harry
6 Jun
6 Jun
9:06 a.m.
pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com wrote:
Hello Patrick,
No, Rusko probably uses Rob Papen's Albino VST plugin. But this specific
track should be doable with Linux apps. Not with my Yoshimi instrument,
it is way too basic for that I fear.
Best,
Jeremy
Harry Van
Haaren wrote:
Hello Harry,
You're welcome. And apparently my Dubstep instrument for Yoshimi was
good enough to get included in the latest Yoshimi release (thanks
Cal!!). If you want to control the wobbles it is possible to set the
Freq. LFO to zero and insert a Phaser effect in the chain and control
its LFO with NRPN messages. I took a look at it yesterday but apparently
my M-Audio Oxygen doesn't send out correct NRPN messages so Yoshimi
doesn't pick them up or I simply don't understand how to properly
program the right NRPN stuff). But I just got some new toys in (a
Behringer BCF2000 and a BCR2000), hopefully I'll get it to work with
those. Otherwise it would be an option to fire up an instance of
Rakarrack with a Phaser effect and control the LFO of the Phaser with
MIDI.
I've also taken a look at PHASEX but I don't grasp how everything is
routed internally so I just don't manage to get anything useful out of it.
amSynth is not suited for Dubstep wobbles, it simply lacks the proper
functionality.
Maybe Bristol could pull the trick too.
For those who have no clue what this is about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQMpJ5lURQ (a classic that we spin
regularly at our parties)
Just to clarify, are you saying that that track was created with Linux
Software or that you can make sounds like that with your dubstep
instrument for Yoshimi?
This track is new enough that I would not be surprised if it was created
with Linux Software...
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd.
With the
help of some manuals I managed to create a pretty ok Dubstep
wobble bass in Yoshimi.
Cheers, there's too much going on at the moment for me to properly check
it
out,
hopefully tomorrow I'll get to load it up though.
Glad there was such a response.. nice to have fellow "wobble bass"
peoples
about!
-Harry
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