On Sun, July 5, 2015 10:58 pm, Jan Depner wrote: Yes, that looks great, thanks for the link. I had not found the documentation, and when I tried to use that Haas effect the controls were not intuitive to me. I could not produce the effect I wanted, but I think with that documentation maybe I can, the settings I used before were specifically recommended to not use by the document, so not surprising it did not sound good. Hopefully I can get time to try the recommended settings in a couple of days. thanks, Chris Caudle