30 Nov
2009
30 Nov
'09
9:49 p.m.
Hi all, while my Korg keyboard does a pretty good job of imitating the
sounds of various instruments, I can never seem to get the guitars to
sound like they're being strummed. In my (simplistic) estimation its a
matter of rolling the notes consecutively from low to high (down-stroke)
and then high to low (up-stroke), perhaps needing variable pressure on
different notes?
So my basic question is, how would you produce as realistic a guitar
strum as possible using an electronic keyboard with the requisite sound
banks? Or should I give it up and just record my guitar directly (neck
needs straightening...)?
30 Nov
30 Nov
9:54 p.m.
New subject: Possible to have realistic guitar strumming sounds using my keyboard?
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, while my Korg keyboard does a pretty good job
of imitating the
sounds of various instruments, I can never seem to get the guitars to
sound like they're being strummed. In my (simplistic) estimation its a
matter of rolling the notes consecutively from low to high (down-stroke)
and then high to low (up-stroke), perhaps needing variable pressure on
different notes?
So my basic question is, how would you produce as realistic a guitar
strum as possible using an electronic keyboard with the requisite sound
banks? Or should I give it up and just record my guitar directly (neck
needs straightening...)?
Which korg do you have? My Oasys does a good job imho, see the demos
on the korg site and youtube for examples. The Oasys uses a linux OS,
so its definitely possible on linux though perhaps there is no open
source implementation yet - not sure. My GenoQs Octopus also claims to
do strumming but I haven't explored that feature yet.
- R
9:56 p.m.
New subject: Possible to have realistic guitar strumming sounds using my keyboard?
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:54 PM, robert lazarski
<robertlazarski(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Ng Oon-Ee
<ngoonee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Forgot the mention that the Korg technology that does strumming is
Karma, so if your Korg has karma 2, you it may be worth exploring.
- R
Hi all, while my Korg keyboard does a pretty good
job of imitating the
sounds of various instruments, I can never seem to get the guitars to
sound like they're being strummed. In my (simplistic) estimation its a
matter of rolling the notes consecutively from low to high (down-stroke)
and then high to low (up-stroke), perhaps needing variable pressure on
different notes?
So my basic question is, how would you produce as realistic a guitar
strum as possible using an electronic keyboard with the requisite sound
banks? Or should I give it up and just record my guitar directly (neck
needs straightening...)?
Which korg do you have? My Oasys does a good job imho, see the demos
on the korg site and youtube for examples. The Oasys uses a linux OS,
so its definitely possible on linux though perhaps there is no open
source implementation yet - not sure. My GenoQs Octopus also claims to
do strumming but I haven't explored that feature yet.
- R
10:01 p.m.
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 22:56 -0300, robert lazarski wrote:
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:54 PM, robert lazarski
<robertlazarski(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I've got a Korg PA50, and I have no idea what Karma is =), is it the
operating system? On their website it says for my keyboard there's OPOS
(Objective Portable Operating System).
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Ng Oon-Ee
<ngoonee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Forgot the mention that the Korg technology that does strumming is
Karma, so if your Korg has karma 2, you it may be worth exploring.
- R Hi all, while my Korg keyboard does a pretty good
job of imitating the
sounds of various instruments, I can never seem to get the guitars to
sound like they're being strummed. In my (simplistic) estimation its a
matter of rolling the notes consecutively from low to high (down-stroke)
and then high to low (up-stroke), perhaps needing variable pressure on
different notes?
So my basic question is, how would you produce as realistic a guitar
strum as possible using an electronic keyboard with the requisite sound
banks? Or should I give it up and just record my guitar directly (neck
needs straightening...)?
Which korg do you have? My Oasys does a good job imho, see the demos
on the korg site and youtube for examples. The Oasys uses a linux OS,
so its definitely possible on linux though perhaps there is no open
source implementation yet - not sure. My GenoQs Octopus also claims to
do strumming but I haven't explored that feature yet.
- R
1 Dec
1 Dec
1:23 a.m.
New subject: Possible to have realistic guitar strumming sounds using my keyboard?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, while my Korg keyboard does a pretty good job
of imitating the
sounds of various instruments, I can never seem to get the guitars to
sound like they're being strummed. In my (simplistic) estimation its a
matter of rolling the notes consecutively from low to high (down-stroke)
and then high to low (up-stroke), perhaps needing variable pressure on
different notes?
So my basic question is, how would you produce as realistic a guitar
strum as possible using an electronic keyboard with the requisite sound
banks? Or should I give it up and just record my guitar directly (neck
needs straightening...)?
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Really, if you want a guitar, record a guitar. They arn't that
expensive at a second hand shop or get your one set up. Changing the
truss rod isn't hard. Just hunt for the right tools and go slowly.
Loki
1:28 a.m.
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 16:23 +1100, Loki Davison wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Ng Oon-Ee
<ngoonee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
That makes sense, of course, but it would be good to know if this is at
all possible with my keyboard.
Hi all, while my Korg keyboard does a pretty good
job of imitating the
sounds of various instruments, I can never seem to get the guitars to
sound like they're being strummed. In my (simplistic) estimation its a
matter of rolling the notes consecutively from low to high (down-stroke)
and then high to low (up-stroke), perhaps needing variable pressure on
different notes?
So my basic question is, how would you produce as realistic a guitar
strum as possible using an electronic keyboard with the requisite sound
banks? Or should I give it up and just record my guitar directly (neck
needs straightening...)?
Really, if you want a guitar, record a guitar. They arn't that
expensive at a second hand shop or get your one set up. Changing the
truss rod isn't hard. Just hunt for the right tools and go slowly.
Loki 
5:30 a.m.
New subject: Possible to have realistic guitar strumming sounds using my keyboard?
2009/12/1 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com>
Hi all, while my Korg keyboard does a pretty good job
of imitating the
sounds of various instruments, I can never seem to get the guitars to
sound like they're being strummed. In my (simplistic) estimation its a
matter of rolling the notes consecutively from low to high (down-stroke)
and then high to low (up-stroke), perhaps needing variable pressure on
different notes?
So my basic question is, how would you produce as realistic a guitar
strum as possible using an electronic keyboard with the requisite sound
banks? Or should I give it up and just record my guitar directly (neck
needs straightening...)?
Here we have that problem again. I mean, how much are we trying to emulate
things these days and getting away with it? I can tell a sampled guitar from
expensive records pretty quickly, and it annoys me as fast. I _have_ heard
_some_ with excellent results though - I wouldn't be able to tell if I
weren't informed. Those are fine, but the majority aren't.
A keyboard cannot duplicate the feel and awesomeness of a guitarist, his
guitar, and a Neumann off-axis, period ;)
--
GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD
5:42 a.m.
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 17:30 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
2009/12/1 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com>
Hi all, while my Korg keyboard does a pretty good job of
imitating the
sounds of various instruments, I can never seem to get the
guitars to
sound like they're being strummed. In my (simplistic)
estimation its a
matter of rolling the notes consecutively from low to high
(down-stroke)
and then high to low (up-stroke), perhaps needing variable
pressure on
different notes?
So my basic question is, how would you produce as realistic a
guitar
strum as possible using an electronic keyboard with the
requisite sound
banks? Or should I give it up and just record my guitar
directly (neck
needs straightening...)?
Here we have that problem again. I mean, how much are we trying to
emulate things these days and getting away with it? I can tell a
sampled guitar from expensive records pretty quickly, and it annoys me
as fast. I _have_ heard _some_ with excellent results though - I
wouldn't be able to tell if I weren't informed. Those are fine, but
the majority aren't.
A keyboard cannot duplicate the feel and awesomeness of a guitarist,
his guitar, and a Neumann off-axis, period ;)
No arguments here on the last sentence. I'd still like to know how
feasible it is though, and if anyone has any pointers. Basically, to put
it very bluntly, I'm a much better keyboardist than guitarist =p.
5:57 a.m.
New subject: Possible to have realistic guitar strumming sounds using my keyboard?
2009/12/1 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com>
No arguments here on the last sentence. I'd still like to know how
feasible it is though, and if anyone has any pointers. Basically, to put
it very bluntly, I'm a much better keyboardist than guitarist =p.
The key point to remember is that when strumming back up, you're actually
just brushing somewhere around 2-5 strings on average. So you can probably
sample and program that using a high resolution Gigasample (that's the next
best thing we have on Linux).
But for live performance, I guess you should start practising being a
guitarist with a keyboard. Wait..that sounds like trouble =p
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GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD
6:58 a.m.
New subject: Possible to have realistic guitar strumming sounds using my keyboard?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 17:30 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
Here's some quick stuff I found via google:
http://www.karma-lab.com/karma/What_Is_KARMA.html
"The technology has been designed to generate unique musical effects
in real-time, allowing effortless creation of spectacular cascades of
complex interweaving notes, techno arpeggios and effects, dense
rhythmic and melodic textures, natural sounding glissandos for
acoustic instrument programs, guitar strumming and finger-picking
simulations, random effects, auto-accompaniment effects, gliding and
swooping portamento and pitch bend effects, and new sound design
possibilities. It has been designed to be not only a valuable tool for
proficient musicians, but a means of interactively controlling music
generation for people of any level of musical skill, including no
musical knowledge whatsoever."
See also the Oasys STR-1:
http://www.korg.co.uk/products/workstations/oasys/ws_oasys6.asp
"The STR-1 Plucked String is a physical model which allows you to
pluck, strike, scrape, or otherwise "excite" the string with 16
different "pluck" types, noise, or any of the onboard or RAM-based PCM
waveforms."
Here's an Oasys demo - I'm not a guitar player so while it sounds like
decent strumming to me - ymmv :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyyQgao-UzM
Here's an M3 strumming demo, a cheaper korg model:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqTDAdQjwb8
Here's the GenoQs Octopus doing strumming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73jLyZ8e3tM
The latter is "also called "the Chris Franke" effect" , not sure why
but I'm a huge tangerine dream fan.
- R
2009/12/1 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com>
So my basic question is, how would you produce as realistic a
guitar
strum as possible using an electronic keyboard with the
requisite sound
banks? Or should I give it up and just record my guitar
directly (neck
needs straightening...)?
Here we have that problem again. I mean, how much are we trying to
emulate things these days and getting away with it? I can tell a
sampled guitar from expensive records pretty quickly, and it annoys me
as fast. I _have_ heard _some_ with excellent results though - I
wouldn't be able to tell if I weren't informed. Those are fine, but
the majority aren't.
A keyboard cannot duplicate the feel and awesomeness of a guitarist,
his guitar, and a Neumann off-axis, period ;)
No arguments here on the last sentence. I'd still like to know how
feasible it is though, and if anyone has any pointers. Basically, to put
it very bluntly, I'm a much better keyboardist than guitarist =p.
9:24 a.m.
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 07:58 -0300, robert lazarski wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Ng Oon-Ee
<ngoonee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 17:30 +0800, Ray Rashif
wrote:
Here's some quick stuff I found via google:
http://www.karma-lab.com/karma/What_Is_KARMA.html
"The technology has been designed to generate unique musical effects
in real-time, allowing effortless creation of spectacular cascades of
complex interweaving notes, techno arpeggios and effects, dense
rhythmic and melodic textures, natural sounding glissandos for
acoustic instrument programs, guitar strumming and finger-picking
simulations, random effects, auto-accompaniment effects, gliding and
swooping portamento and pitch bend effects, and new sound design
possibilities. It has been designed to be not only a valuable tool for
proficient musicians, but a means of interactively controlling music
generation for people of any level of musical skill, including no
musical knowledge whatsoever."
See also the Oasys STR-1:
http://www.korg.co.uk/products/workstations/oasys/ws_oasys6.asp
"The STR-1 Plucked String is a physical model which allows you to
pluck, strike, scrape, or otherwise "excite" the string with 16
different "pluck" types, noise, or any of the onboard or RAM-based PCM
waveforms."
Here's an Oasys demo - I'm not a guitar player so while it sounds like
decent strumming to me - ymmv :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyyQgao-UzM
Here's an M3 strumming demo, a cheaper korg model:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqTDAdQjwb8
Here's the GenoQs Octopus doing strumming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73jLyZ8e3tM
The latter is "also called "the Chris Franke" effect" , not sure why
but I'm a huge tangerine dream fan.
- R 2009/12/1 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com>
So my basic question is, how would you produce as realistic a
guitar
strum as possible using an electronic keyboard with the
requisite sound
banks? Or should I give it up and just record my guitar
directly (neck
needs straightening...)?
Here we have that problem again. I mean, how much are we trying to
emulate things these days and getting away with it? I can tell a
sampled guitar from expensive records pretty quickly, and it annoys me
as fast. I _have_ heard _some_ with excellent results though - I
wouldn't be able to tell if I weren't informed. Those are fine, but
the majority aren't.
A keyboard cannot duplicate the feel and awesomeness of a guitarist,
his guitar, and a Neumann off-axis, period ;)
No arguments here on the last sentence. I'd still like to know how
feasible it is though, and if anyone has any pointers. Basically, to put
it very bluntly, I'm a much better keyboardist than guitarist =p.
9:25 a.m.
Sorry, accidentally hit send on the previous message...
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 07:58 -0300, robert lazarski wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Ng Oon-Ee
<ngoonee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, I was just reading Korg's site on their Oasys. Basically what I
draw is that Karma is specific to the Oasys (which is already out of
production, and is probably way out of my budget + not available out
here in the boondocks).
Its pretty cool that there are machines to do this though. Which seems
to indicate it isn't possible or is very hard with a 'typical' Korg.
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 17:30 +0800, Ray Rashif
wrote:
Here's some quick stuff I found via google:
http://www.karma-lab.com/karma/What_Is_KARMA.html
"The technology has been designed to generate unique musical effects
in real-time, allowing effortless creation of spectacular cascades of
complex interweaving notes, techno arpeggios and effects, dense
rhythmic and melodic textures, natural sounding glissandos for
acoustic instrument programs, guitar strumming and finger-picking
simulations, random effects, auto-accompaniment effects, gliding and
swooping portamento and pitch bend effects, and new sound design
possibilities. It has been designed to be not only a valuable tool for
proficient musicians, but a means of interactively controlling music
generation for people of any level of musical skill, including no
musical knowledge whatsoever."
See also the Oasys STR-1:
http://www.korg.co.uk/products/workstations/oasys/ws_oasys6.asp
"The STR-1 Plucked String is a physical model which allows you to
pluck, strike, scrape, or otherwise "excite" the string with 16
different "pluck" types, noise, or any of the onboard or RAM-based PCM
waveforms."
Here's an Oasys demo - I'm not a guitar player so while it sounds like
decent strumming to me - ymmv :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyyQgao-UzM
Here's an M3 strumming demo, a cheaper korg model:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqTDAdQjwb8
Here's the GenoQs Octopus doing strumming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73jLyZ8e3tM
The latter is "also called "the Chris Franke" effect" , not sure why
but I'm a huge tangerine dream fan.
- R 2009/12/1 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com>
So my basic question is, how would you produce as realistic a
guitar
strum as possible using an electronic keyboard with the
requisite sound
banks? Or should I give it up and just record my guitar
directly (neck
needs straightening...)?
Here we have that problem again. I mean, how much are we trying to
emulate things these days and getting away with it? I can tell a
sampled guitar from expensive records pretty quickly, and it annoys me
as fast. I _have_ heard _some_ with excellent results though - I
wouldn't be able to tell if I weren't informed. Those are fine, but
the majority aren't.
A keyboard cannot duplicate the feel and awesomeness of a guitarist,
his guitar, and a Neumann off-axis, period ;)
No arguments here on the last sentence. I'd still like to know how
feasible it is though, and if anyone has any pointers. Basically, to put
it very bluntly, I'm a much better keyboardist than guitarist =p.
9:30 a.m.
New subject: Possible to have realistic guitar strumming sounds using my keyboard?
2009/12/1 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 07:58 -0300, robert lazarski
wrote:
The second demo I gave was korg M3 based which also comes in a rack.
Either one of these options is _much_ cheaper than an Oasys:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/M3-Module/
http://cgi.ebay.com/Korg-M3M-Synthesizer-Workstation-Sampler-Module-M3-BIN_…
- R
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Ng Oon-Ee
<ngoonee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, I was just reading Korg's site on their Oasys. Basically what I
draw is that Karma is specific to the Oasys (which is already out of
production, and is probably way out of my budget + not available out
here in the boondocks).
Its pretty cool that there are machines to do this though. Which seems
to indicate it isn't possible or is very hard with a 'typical' Korg.
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 17:30 +0800, Ray Rashif
wrote:
> 2009/12/1 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com>
Here's some quick stuff I found via google:
http://www.karma-lab.com/karma/What_Is_KARMA.html
"The technology has been designed to generate unique musical effects
in real-time, allowing effortless creation of spectacular cascades of
complex interweaving notes, techno arpeggios and effects, dense
rhythmic and melodic textures, natural sounding glissandos for
acoustic instrument programs, guitar strumming and finger-picking
simulations, random effects, auto-accompaniment effects, gliding and
swooping portamento and pitch bend effects, and new sound design
possibilities. It has been designed to be not only a valuable tool for
proficient musicians, but a means of interactively controlling music
generation for people of any level of musical skill, including no
musical knowledge whatsoever."
See also the Oasys STR-1:
http://www.korg.co.uk/products/workstations/oasys/ws_oasys6.asp
"The STR-1 Plucked String is a physical model which allows you to
pluck, strike, scrape, or otherwise "excite" the string with 16
different "pluck" types, noise, or any of the onboard or RAM-based PCM
waveforms."
Here's an Oasys demo - I'm not a guitar player so while it sounds like
decent strumming to me - ymmv :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyyQgao-UzM
Here's an M3 strumming demo, a cheaper korg model:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqTDAdQjwb8
Here's the GenoQs Octopus doing strumming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73jLyZ8e3tM
The latter is "also called "the Chris Franke" effect" , not sure why
but I'm a huge tangerine dream fan.
- R
9:34 a.m.
New subject: Possible to have realistic guitar strumming sounds using my keyboard?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:30 AM, robert lazarski
<robertlazarski(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2009/12/1 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com>om>:
Actually I'm not sure the M3M is a rack or an expansion - do some
research before buying one. Anyways, some type of M3 option should get
what you looking for at an imho reasonable price.
- R
Thanks, I was just reading Korg's site on
their Oasys. Basically what I
draw is that Karma is specific to the Oasys (which is already out of
production, and is probably way out of my budget + not available out
here in the boondocks).
Its pretty cool that there are machines to do this though. Which seems
to indicate it isn't possible or is very hard with a 'typical' Korg.
The second demo I gave was korg M3 based which also comes in a rack.
Either one of these options is _much_ cheaper than an Oasys:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/M3-Module/
http://cgi.ebay.com/Korg-M3M-Synthesizer-Workstation-Sampler-Module-M3-BIN_…
- R
2:41 p.m.
New subject: Possible to have realistic guitar strumming sounds using my keyboard?
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 04:42 am, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
No arguments here on the last sentence. I'd still
like to know how
feasible it is though, and if anyone has any pointers. Basically, to put
it very bluntly, I'm a much better keyboardist than guitarist =p.
Years ago I was able to do what I considered to be passable downstrums
after practicing a lot, but even then, I'd only want to use those as
accents in a song otherwise carried by keyboard sounds, not as actual
rhythm guitar parts -- if it's possible to simulate alternating downstrums
and upstrums fast enough to do that, it would have to be done by someone
who's a much better player than I am. I think the key is to make sure you
keep in mind what is and isn't possible on a guitar. The subset of that
that's also possible on a keyboard is what you have to work with. I ended
up buying a basic acoustic/electric for a hundred bucks, and as poor as I
am at guitar, I still do better with it. (Getting a good recording of it
is what makes me still not do it very often.)
I vaguely remember that there was some Windows software that would
"strumify" MIDI chords for you back in the 90s in non-realtime, and the
demos sounded pretty passable, but I never tried that.
Rob
2:49 p.m.
New subject: Possible to have realistic guitar strumming sounds using my keyboard?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Rob <lau(a)kudla.org> wrote:
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 04:42 am, Ng Oon-Ee
wrote:
My accompaniment generator, MMA, attempts to do strumming. It's not
bad, but not great either. The biggest problem is that when you strum
a guitar you're not really just hitting one string after another ...
and that's what my program does ... simply puts in a timing delay
between each note. Like others have said, best to play a guitar (or
sax or kazo...) if you want a specific sound :)
--
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No arguments here on the last sentence. I'd
still like to know how
feasible it is though, and if anyone has any pointers. Basically, to put
it very bluntly, I'm a much better keyboardist than guitarist =p.
Years ago I was able to do what I considered to be passable downstrums
after practicing a lot, but even then, I'd only want to use those as
accents in a song otherwise carried by keyboard sounds, not as actual
rhythm guitar parts -- if it's possible to simulate alternating downstrums
and upstrums fast enough to do that, it would have to be done by someone
who's a much better player than I am. I think the key is to make sure you
keep in mind what is and isn't possible on a guitar. The subset of that
that's also possible on a keyboard is what you have to work with. I ended
up buying a basic acoustic/electric for a hundred bucks, and as poor as I
am at guitar, I still do better with it. (Getting a good recording of it
is what makes me still not do it very often.)
I vaguely remember that there was some Windows software that would
"strumify" MIDI chords for you back in the 90s in non-realtime, and the
demos sounded pretty passable, but I never tried that.
6:58 p.m.
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 11:49 -0700, Bob van der Poel wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Rob
<lau(a)kudla.org> wrote:
Looks like things are pretty unanimous, then.
So, to summarize the thread thus far:-
1) there ARE specialist keyboards/equipments with 'strummers' for the
specific sound
2) Attempting to replicate the guitar strum sound on the keyboard is
very technically challenging, some strings will have to be skipped for
example on up-stroke?
3) In the end, just recording a guitar is still the best way even for
non-advanced guitarists.
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 04:42 am, Ng Oon-Ee
wrote:
My accompaniment generator, MMA, attempts to do strumming. It's not
bad, but not great either. The biggest problem is that when you strum
a guitar you're not really just hitting one string after another ...
and that's what my program does ... simply puts in a timing delay
between each note. Like others have said, best to play a guitar (or
sax or kazo...) if you want a specific sound :)
No arguments here on the last sentence. I'd
still like to know how
feasible it is though, and if anyone has any pointers. Basically, to put
it very bluntly, I'm a much better keyboardist than guitarist =p.
Years ago I was able to do what I considered to be passable downstrums
after practicing a lot, but even then, I'd only want to use those as
accents in a song otherwise carried by keyboard sounds, not as actual
rhythm guitar parts -- if it's possible to simulate alternating downstrums
and upstrums fast enough to do that, it would have to be done by someone
who's a much better player than I am. I think the key is to make sure you
keep in mind what is and isn't possible on a guitar. The subset of that
that's also possible on a keyboard is what you have to work with. I ended
up buying a basic acoustic/electric for a hundred bucks, and as poor as I
am at guitar, I still do better with it. (Getting a good recording of it
is what makes me still not do it very often.)
I vaguely remember that there was some Windows software that would
"strumify" MIDI chords for you back in the 90s in non-realtime, and the
demos sounded pretty passable, but I never tried that.
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