21 Sep
2011
21 Sep
'11
3:46 p.m.
Hi,
I'm looking for a way to make a good sounding rataplan on an electronic
snare-drum.
I'm not looking for the typical army-snare but rather the funky style:
just hit the snare and keep applying pressure to the stick so that it
bounces a few times. Some kind of electronic equivalent of
http://gareus.org/_media/pub/misc/wirbel3.mp3
I tried short sequences of 64th or 48th notes in hydrogen (various
drum-kits) and seq24 (general-midi jazz-kit) - to no avail.
Do I miss a specific sound-font? Is there a trick
(echo/slap-back/reverb)? I would not say no to Csound or supercollider
synth. Anything that I can trigger with MIDI is fine.
Thanks in advance for any hints,
robin
21 Sep
21 Sep
7:10 p.m.
Le 21/09/2011 15:46, Robin Gareus a écrit :
Hi,
I'm looking for a way to make a good sounding rataplan on an electronic
snare-drum.
I'm not looking for the typical army-snare but rather the funky style:
just hit the snare and keep applying pressure to the stick so that it
bounces a few times. Some kind of electronic equivalent of
http://gareus.org/_media/pub/misc/wirbel3.mp3
I tried short sequences of 64th or 48th notes in hydrogen (various
drum-kits) and seq24 (general-midi jazz-kit) - to no avail.
Do I miss a specific sound-font? Is there a trick
(echo/slap-back/reverb)? I would not say no to Csound or supercollider
synth. Anything that I can trigger with MIDI is fine.
Thanks in advance for any hints,
robin
Hi Robin,
not sure, but maybe you can find some cool samples at freesound.org
There's a nice search engine up right
HTH,
Fred
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10:40 p.m.
Le 21/09/2011 15:46, Robin Gareus a écrit :
Hi,
I'm looking for a way to make a good sounding rataplan on an electronic
snare-drum.
I'm not looking for the typical army-snare but rather the funky style:
just hit the snare and keep applying pressure to the stick so that it
bounces a few times. Some kind of electronic equivalent of
http://gareus.org/_media/pub/misc/wirbel3.mp3
I tried short sequences of 64th or 48th notes in hydrogen (various
drum-kits) and seq24 (general-midi jazz-kit) - to no avail.
Do I miss a specific sound-font? Is there a trick
(echo/slap-back/reverb)? I would not say no to Csound or supercollider
synth. Anything that I can trigger with MIDI is fine.
Thanks in advance for any hints,
robin
Hi,
<autopub> Have you tried the Drummer's 'G'igsaw ? <autopub/>
Of course you have to install Lilypond.
I attach a simple example of a quick try.
Copy and paste the following code in MY-SONG.ly
and then randomize the results as you want.
If you open the window of MA-BASE in your Desktop you will be able to
listen to the successive randomisations you manage without shutdown the
'G'gigsaw in the console, so you can tweak...
\time 4/4
\tempo 4 = 140
<bd_\ffff sna_\fff>8 sna16_\ff sna16_\mf sna32_\ffff sna32_\f sna32_\mp
sna32_\fff sna32_\p sna32_\mf sna32_\p sna32_\pp sna8_\ppp \tempo 4 = 24
<bd_\ffff sna_\fff cymca_\fff>16 \times 8/7 { sna128_\f sna128_\p
sna128_\pppp sna128_\sf sna128_\p sna128_\ff sna128_\pppp } \tempo 4 =
52 \times 4/5 { sna32_\sf sna32_\f sna32_\mp sna32_\pp sna32_\pppp }
<bd_\ffff sna_\fff>16 sna32_\pp sna32_\mf |
<bd_\ffff sna_\fff cymcb_\fff>8 r8 r4 r2 |
I also attach some resulting midis.
MY-SONG-TOTAL-RECALL+veloc.midi : the first output (no randomisation)
Then all randomisations are done in UP and DOWN mode.
MY-SONG-RANDOMIZED-1.midi : randvalvolum = 12 (Volume only)
MY-SONG-RANDOMIZED-2.midi : randvalvolum = 12 (Volume again)
MY-SONG-RANDOMIZED-3.midi : randvaltime = 5 (Time only)
MY-SONG-RANDOMIZED-4.midi : randvaltime = 4 (Time only again)
MY-SONG-RANDOMIZED-4.midi : randvaltime = 2 + randvalvolum = 7
Cheers.
10:58 p.m.
Am 21.09.2011 15:46, schrieb Robin Gareus:
Hi,
I'm looking for a way to make a good sounding rataplan on an electronic
snare-drum.
I'm not looking for the typical army-snare but rather the funky style:
just hit the snare and keep applying pressure to the stick so that it
bounces a few times. Some kind of electronic equivalent of
http://gareus.org/_media/pub/misc/wirbel3.mp3
I tried short sequences of 64th or 48th notes in hydrogen (various
drum-kits) and seq24 (general-midi jazz-kit) - to no avail.
If I remember correctly this is not the most easy exercise for a drummer
though it is basically simple: you just hit the drum twice with one
stick and then twice again with the other. The main effect is, that you
avoid the machine-gun effect that unveils a drum computer immediately.
The not-so-easy part is to do that very very fast...
So let us try it in H2:
put two slightely different snaresounds in two instrument channels.
set resolution to 32
set notes like this:
xx xx xx
xx xx xx
an so forth...
I tried it right now (with just one snare an different velocity) and it
sounds, like one can come near your example (with some serious fiddeling
though...)
good luck ;-)
HZN
p.s.: if there is a experienced drummer out there that knows a better
way, please upgrade :-)
Do I miss a specific sound-font? Is there a trick
(echo/slap-back/reverb)? I would not say no to Csound or supercollider
synth. Anything that I can trigger with MIDI is fine.
Thanks in advance for any hints,
robin
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22 Sep
22 Sep
11:35 a.m.
On 09/21/2011 10:58 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
Am 21.09.2011 15:46, schrieb Robin Gareus:
neat. this makes it much more easy to avoid the "machine gun" effect.
Hi,
I'm looking for a way to make a good sounding rataplan on an electronic
snare-drum.
I'm not looking for the typical army-snare but rather the funky style:
just hit the snare and keep applying pressure to the stick so that it
bounces a few times. Some kind of electronic equivalent of
http://gareus.org/_media/pub/misc/wirbel3.mp3
I tried short sequences of 64th or 48th notes in hydrogen (various
drum-kits) and seq24 (general-midi jazz-kit) - to no avail.
If I remember correctly this is not the most easy exercise for a drummer
though it is basically simple: you just hit the drum twice with one
stick and then twice again with the other. The main effect is, that you
avoid the machine-gun effect that unveils a drum computer immediately.
The not-so-easy part is to do that very very fast...
So let us try it in H2:
put two slightely different snaresounds in two instrument channels.
set resolution to 32
set notes like this:
xx xx xx
xx xx xx
an so forth... I tried it right now (with just one snare an different
velocity) and it
sounds, like one can come near your example (with some serious fiddeling
though...)
good luck ;-)
Thanks a lot!
robin
HZN
p.s.: if there is a experienced drummer out there that knows a better
way, please upgrade :-)
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