15 Jul
2003
15 Jul
'03
4:04 p.m.
Greetings:
While we were in Italy last week Ivy (a.k.a. my Better Half) purchased
two DVDs and a VHS video. I knew that I took a chance on the discs,
they're both region-encoded so I figured they wouldn't play in Ivy's
standalone DVD player. Sure enough, the player refused to recognize the
discs. However, I _am_ able to play them on my Linux box, so now even
Ivy agrees that Linux rules.
Now I have some questions:
Is there some way to change a hardware DVD player to accept another
region coding or is it necessary to buy a standalone player keyed to the
disc's region code ?
How does it happen that my Linux players recognize these discs with
no trouble ? Would a Windows or Mac player do as well ?
The VHS tape is still a problem. Our player doesn't seem to like it,
no picture appears but we can hear the audio moving along at something
like twice normal speed. Can anyone tell me what's up with that and if
there's some way to fix it ? TIA !
Best regards,
== dp
15 Jul
15 Jul
4:32 p.m.
I was able to change my Fisher DVD player to accept DVDs from all
regions by a combination of commands from the remote control. I don't
have any DVDs, other than Region 1 to test it with , though. There
are websites that have this info for the various DVD machines.
As far as the VHS goes, it's a PAL tape, and it needs to be converted to
NTSC to be seen on a domestic (North America) VHS deck, or it can be
viewed on a multi-system deck. Quite a few of the PAL decks in Europe
can play NTSC, but it doesn't work the other way around.
Good Luck!
/mel
Dave Phillips wrote:
Greetings:
While we were in Italy last week Ivy (a.k.a. my Better Half) purchased
two DVDs and a VHS video. I knew that I took a chance on the discs,
they're both region-encoded so I figured they wouldn't play in Ivy's
standalone DVD player. Sure enough, the player refused to recognize the
discs. However, I _am_ able to play them on my Linux box, so now even
Ivy agrees that Linux rules.
Now I have some questions:
Is there some way to change a hardware DVD player to accept another
region coding or is it necessary to buy a standalone player keyed to the
disc's region code ?
How does it happen that my Linux players recognize these discs with
no trouble ? Would a Windows or Mac player do as well ?
The VHS tape is still a problem. Our player doesn't seem to like it,
no picture appears but we can hear the audio moving along at something
like twice normal speed. Can anyone tell me what's up with that and if
there's some way to fix it ? TIA !
Best regards,
== dp
4:34 p.m.
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 01:55:10PM -0400, Dave Phillips wrote:
How does it happen that my Linux players recognize
these discs with
no trouble ? Would a Windows or Mac player do as well ?
It could be a couple things - on one hand, I wouldn't be surprised if
the free software to access DVDs has code to work around some region
limitations. This could be helping you. Also, some early DVD-ROM
drives were produced before region coding became prevalent - you might
have region-free DVD hardware.
The VHS tape is still a problem. Our player
doesn't seem to like it,
no picture appears but we can hear the audio moving along at something
like twice normal speed. Can anyone tell me what's up with that and if
there's some way to fix it ? TIA !
The format for video tapes is actually different in North America. That
tape is probably encided in the PAL format (NTSC is the name of the NA
standard). The easy way is to buy a PAL VCR. Someone else might have a
better solution.
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4:43 p.m.
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:55:10 -0400
Dave Phillips <dlphilp(a)bright.net> wrote:
Is there some way to change a hardware DVD player
to accept another
region coding...
Completely depends on the player - some allow you to change the region a
fixed number of times.
How does it happen that my Linux players recognize
these discs with
no trouble ?
Magic :) (Translation - I have no idea!) But it's heartening to know
it worked. My guess is that Windows machines would be careful to honor
the region encoding because MS is so closely aligned with the MPAA with
regards to digital rights management. Dunno about Macs, but my guess is
that they'd honor the region encoding as well.
The VHS tape is still a problem. Our player
doesn't seem to like it,
no picture appears but we can hear the audio moving along at something
like twice normal speed. Can anyone tell me what's up with that and if
there's some way to fix it ?
Your tape is likely in the PAL format, the European standard for TV
broadcasting. It has a different number of lines scanned per second
than the NTSC format used in the US. I think your only option here
is to find someone with a PAL VCR and get them to dub a copy onto an
NTSC VCR.
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Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa
6:20 p.m.
About 5 years ago we (me and _my_ better half) bought a video tape in
China ... It played similarly to Dave's ... no picture and screwed up
audio.
Does anyone know if PAL is the standard in China as well?
-Eric Rz.
On Tue 15/07/2003 14:29:55, Joe Hartley wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:55:10 -0400
Dave Phillips <dlphilp(a)bright.net> wrote:
Is there some way to change a hardware DVD
player to accept another
region coding...
Completely depends on the player - some allow you to change the region a
fixed number of times.
How does it happen that my Linux players
recognize these discs with
no trouble ?
Magic :) (Translation - I have no idea!) But it's heartening to know
it worked. My guess is that Windows machines would be careful to honor
the region encoding because MS is so closely aligned with the MPAA with
regards to digital rights management. Dunno about Macs, but my guess is
that they'd honor the region encoding as well.
The VHS tape is still a problem. Our player
doesn't seem to like it,
no picture appears but we can hear the audio moving along at something
like twice normal speed. Can anyone tell me what's up with that and if
there's some way to fix it ?
Your tape is likely in the PAL format, the European standard for TV
broadcasting. It has a different number of lines scanned per second
than the NTSC format used in the US. I think your only option here
is to find someone with a PAL VCR and get them to dub a copy onto an
NTSC VCR.
--
======================================================================
Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh(a)brainiac.com
Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa 
7:01 p.m.
The VHS
tape is still a problem. Our player doesn't seem to like it,
no picture appears but we can hear the audio moving along at something
like twice normal speed. Can anyone tell me what's up with that and if
there's some way to fix it ?
Your tape is likely in the PAL format, the European standard for TV
broadcasting. It has a different number of lines scanned per second
than the NTSC format used in the US. I think your only option here
is to find someone with a PAL VCR and get them to dub a copy onto an
NTSC VCR. 
16 Jul
16 Jul
6:25 a.m.
Le mar 15/07/2003 à 22:48, rob fell a écrit :
IIRC Italy uses *two* formats, both flavours of PAL. I
don't know about
interoperability between the two formats.
You may be speaking about the specifically french SECAM standard,
which is different from PAL only in the colour coding.
If you watch a SECAM tape on a PAL TV+VCR,
there will be no problem.
If you watch a PAL tape on a SECAM TV+VCR,
you will see the whole thing with full images and sound quality,
except it will be black and white ! ;-)
SECAM is more and more abandoned as it is (was ?) french only.
NTSC shows 30 images per second,
PAL an SECAM only 25, but more lines are displayed on TV.
More and more european TVs and VCRs are NTSC compatible.
Nÿco
1:08 p.m.
Am Die, 2003-07-15 um 19.55 schrieb Dave Phillips:
How does it happen that my Linux players recognize
these discs with
no trouble ?
Iguess it is because Linuxplayers treat the Data on the DVD as simple
MPEG-Streams, pass them trough libdecss and thus play the output
File-by-File (That is: ignoring the meta-files that set the region Code
etc.)
Xine does so at least, if you point it to the VOB-File on the Disk, it
plays them (without allowing to change Audio/Subs though...)
Would a Windows or Mac player do as well ?
Some Win32-Player will, at least if they are ahmmm.... tuned.
I used to play DVD on Win using PowerDVD - this one can do a lot of
things, that are surely not intended by the Entertainment Industry...
The VHS tape is still a problem. Our player
doesn't seem to like it,
no picture appears but we can hear the audio moving along at something
like twice normal speed. Can anyone tell me what's up with that and if
there's some way to fix it ? TIA !
This ist mechanics - i propose not to mess with that, you can have a
TopNotch PAL-Enabeled Hifi-Stereo VHS Player for as little as 150,-
EUR/USD at Ebay ;-)
Best regards,
== dp
1:30 p.m.
>>>> "Dave" == Dave Phillips
<dlphilp(a)bright.net> writes:
Dave> How does it happen that my Linux players recognize these
Dave> discs with
Dave> no trouble ? Would a Windows or Mac player do as well ?
A friend of mine with a Mac OSX machine has DVD's from two regions
(his wife is Japanese), and the player that comes with the Mac says
you can only change a fixed number of times, but there are websites
that have a program that resets the number of times.
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