27 Aug
2004
27 Aug
'04
10:05 a.m.
Greetings:
I wrote to Joerg Anders, the author of NoteEdit, and he confirmed that
he is leaving off development of NoteEdit. Though I disagree with his
assessment of a possible Linux Finale, it's certainly his right to stay
with or go away from the helm of NoteEdit development, and he can use
any reason he prefers.
I have *no* confirmation regarding any Linux development at all from
Coda Music, the manufacturers of Finale. Unless someone knows more, I'd
say it's an unfounded rumor. I've read that some users have run Finale
under Wine: I can get it to open but it doesn't work after that.
There's some discussion whether to keep it in AGNULA and whether
AGNULA members might want to take over the development of NE. I realize
that NE has some possibly irritating dependencies, but I must add that
it is a unique Linux music notation editor with a well-evolved set of
features and an active user base.
I'm uneasy about the implications that mere rumor compelled Joerg to
abandon NE, though as I said, I respect Joerg's wishes and his
accomplishments with regard to NE. I'm confused as to why Finale's
presence might force a developer to consider his own work a closed case.
After all, Finale is expensive, closed-source, and not necessarily
suited to everyone's work methods. NE is free software, open-source, and
works nicely for me. I would hate to see it disappear.
Joerg said that since sources are available anyone can continue with
NE development. I hope that happens.
Best regards,
dp
27 Aug
27 Aug
10:34 a.m.
I'm uneasy about the implications that mere
rumor compelled Joerg to
abandon NE, though as I said, I respect Joerg's wishes and his
accomplishments with regard to NE. I'm confused as to why Finale's
presence might force a developer to consider his own work a closed case.
After all, Finale is expensive, closed-source, and not necessarily
suited to everyone's work methods. NE is free software, open-source, and
works nicely for me. I would hate to see it disappear.
Joerg said that since sources are available anyone can continue with
NE development. I hope that happens.
I think you're seeing a simple and ugly reality being played out here. The
Open Source Software movement works well for things with a very large
userbase of appeal, but when things start to get vertical, and professional
music/audio software is pretty vertical indeed, the number of people who are
talented enough to make tools worth using *and* who have the time + energy
to devote to writing software for free is very very small indeed.
As the size of a piece of software's audience gets smaller, the %age of its
userbase who are also actively participating coders, designers, and the less
sexier areas of a coordinated software development process needs to
increase, or you will just not see any tools.
As it is in the commercial audio arena, the pricing models reflect a highly
vertical market size. If millions of people bought Pro Tools or Cakewalk,
it'd be priced accordingly. There is a great deal of dedicated full-time
audio engineering being performed to make these products interoperate and
work cleanly in a purpose-built manner. This takes time, money, and the
realistic sources of revenue to fund these efforts.
As heretical and perhaps counter-intuitive as it may sound, "early adopters"
of an emerging platform like Linux Audio need to either put forth funds (as
in filthy lucre) or earnestly committed engineering expertise towards these
products, or they will just not happen.
There is no tooth faery who is going to come down from Mount Avid with a
Linux copy of Pro Tools, or any of the countless "evil, proprietary, but
indispensible" tools audio professionals rely upon for their daily bread,
which is after all, about making noises for other humanoids to ultimately enjoy.
Cheers,
=MB=
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11:05 a.m.
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:18:32 -0700
Malcolm Baldridge <linux-audio(a)paypc.com> wrote:
There is no tooth faery who is going to come down from
Mount Avid with a
Linux copy of Pro Tools
No... that'd be Paul Davis with Ardour ;)
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11:24 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Regarding NoteEdit, Finale, and rumor
Hi!
I met with the president nd founder of Coda, (Now Makemusic!) a few
months ago at work(Silver Burdett Ginn) and I asked him if they were
going to publish a Linux version of Finale now that they have completed
an OSX version. He said that his programming and marketing staff had
brought the idea up but that they were not going to make a Linux version
at this time.
FYI.
Matt.
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Dave Phillips wrote:
Greetings:
I wrote to Joerg Anders, the author of NoteEdit, and he confirmed
that he is leaving off development of NoteEdit. Though I disagree with
his assessment of a possible Linux Finale, it's certainly his right to
stay with or go away from the helm of NoteEdit development, and he can
use any reason he prefers.
I have *no* confirmation regarding any Linux development at all from
Coda Music, the manufacturers of Finale. Unless someone knows more,
I'd say it's an unfounded rumor. I've read that some users have run
Finale under Wine: I can get it to open but it doesn't work after that.
There's some discussion whether to keep it in AGNULA and whether
AGNULA members might want to take over the development of NE. I
realize that NE has some possibly irritating dependencies, but I must
add that it is a unique Linux music notation editor with a
well-evolved set of features and an active user base.
I'm uneasy about the implications that mere rumor compelled Joerg to
abandon NE, though as I said, I respect Joerg's wishes and his
accomplishments with regard to NE. I'm confused as to why Finale's
presence might force a developer to consider his own work a closed
case. After all, Finale is expensive, closed-source, and not
necessarily suited to everyone's work methods. NE is free software,
open-source, and works nicely for me. I would hate to see it disappear.
Joerg said that since sources are available anyone can continue with
NE development. I hope that happens.
Best regards,
dp
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