4 Nov
2007
4 Nov
'07
3:08 p.m.
I can route the Line-In through, but I can't seem to get any capture off
it.
Changing mixer controls didn't help a bit.
Any ideas or experiences with this card?
Leslie
5 Nov
5 Nov
2:31 a.m.
I've got a live value, also snd_emu10k1.
in alsamixer, I press F4 to switch to capture controls, then press space
on the track labeled Capture, to make the red letters CAPTUR appear on
it, and then also press space on the input I want to capture, as in
line, so as to make the red CAPTUR appear there too. notice all the
AC97 inputs are mutually exclusive. usually I don't need to touch the
mixer levels on the inputs, just leave them all at 0. If you are trying
to capture a quiet signal, the AC97 mixer slider should turn it up, and
the Capture
slider I think will let you monitor the input, but for that I just route
it to the speakers in qjackctl. BTW, gnome-alsamixer is pretty
confusing to me on this card. beware of that one.
what mixer are you using?
leslie.polzer(a)gmx.net wrote:
I can route the Line-In through, but I can't seem
to get any capture off
it.
Changing mixer controls didn't help a bit.
Any ideas or experiences with this card?
Leslie
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4:56 a.m.
Hello Brian,
thanks for the input; but it still does not work.
what mixer are you using?
I have been playing around with qamix, kmix and alsamixer,
to no avail.
I wonder whether something, either in hardware of software,
is broken with my setup.
Can anyone recommend a good sound card that's not the M-Audio
Delta, since I don't want to spend that much money right now?
Leslie
7:46 a.m.
On Monday 05 November 2007 03:55:59 Leslie P. Polzer wrote:
Hello Brian,
thanks for the input; but it still does not work.
Well, I can't say how good it is, and it is more than just a sound card, but I
have been happy with my alesis multimix8 usb
http://www.zzounds.com/item--ALEMULTIMIX8USB
Still a usb soundcard though with all the limitations.
what mixer are you using?
I have been playing around with qamix, kmix and alsamixer,
to no avail.
I wonder whether something, either in hardware of software,
is broken with my setup.
Can anyone recommend a good sound card that's not the M-Audio
Delta, since I don't want to spend that much money right now?
Leslie
all the best,
drew
2:31 p.m.
On 11/5/07, Leslie P. Polzer <leslie.polzer(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good sound card that's not
the M-Audio
Delta, since I don't want to spend that much money right now?
I don't think you can get a "good" soundcard for less than an M-audio
(Audiophile is cheaper than the Delta).
3:20 p.m.
Paul Coccoli wrote:
On 11/5/07, Leslie P. Polzer
<leslie.polzer(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Not long ago I scored a Delta 66 with the
Omni box for about $110. More
recently I purchased a Delta 66 and its regular breakout box (separate
purchases) for about $115. Of course, I bought them on eBay.
I know the SBLive and similar cards are much cheaper, but I used such
cards before switching to the Delta. Despite their virtues, I can't
recommend them for serious audio production.
I considered the Audiophile, but I wasn't thrilled with its connectors.
Best,
dp
Can anyone recommend a good sound card that's
not the M-Audio
Delta, since I don't want to spend that much money right now?
I don't think you can get a "good" soundcard for less than an M-audio
(Audiophile is cheaper than the Delta). 
3:28 p.m.
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Dave Phillips wrote:
I know the SBLive and similar cards are much cheaper,
but I used such
cards before switching to the Delta. Despite their virtues, I can't
recommend them for serious audio production.
Why do you think the SBLive is not sufficiently serious. That is to
say, what's the characteristic of a high-end computer sound card that
makes it recommendable for serious work? I can imagine these as
possible answers:
1.) Low noise characteristics, including power-line noise. But
maybe power-line noise is less a function of the sound card,
and more a function of the entire system and its relation to
the power supply.
2.) Low harmonic distortion, though I would not thing HD is really
a big deal in modern electronics.
3.) Is sample jitter a problem?
4.) Is sample width a problem?
5.) I can suppose that the interface is important. By this I
mean the programming interface, and not the applications used
to control the device. Since the latter are either Windows
applications, or Linux, device independent applications,
the device choice doesn't have that much to do with this.
I really have no clue. I don't have a real application in mind. I'm
just curious. If this has already been hashed out earlier in this
thread, I apologize for repeating, and I'll withstand being
ignored.
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4:46 p.m.
Bill White wrote:
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Dave Phillips wrote:
Hi
It's all about what you want to achieve with your recordings and what
needs you may have for stable connectors which I in all respect don't
think the SBLive card or any card on that level contains.
It's also important to be able to connect balanced equipment to a steady
breakoutbox, I moved from Delta66 to RME Multiface to achieve low
latency and the possibility of connecting varieties of different signal
types.
But you can't get quality cheap, that's my experience so far, if you
only want to play to learn, the SBLive probably will do !
/Sv-e
I know the SBLive and similar cards are much
cheaper, but I used such
cards before switching to the Delta. Despite their virtues, I can't
recommend them for serious audio production.
Why do you think the SBLive is not sufficiently serious. That is to
say, what's the characteristic of a high-end computer sound card that
makes it recommendable for serious work? I can imagine these as
possible answers:
1.) Low noise characteristics, including power-line noise. But
maybe power-line noise is less a function of the sound card,
and more a function of the entire system and its relation to
the power supply.
2.) Low harmonic distortion, though I would not thing HD is really
a big deal in modern electronics.
3.) Is sample jitter a problem?
4.) Is sample width a problem?
5.) I can suppose that the interface is important. By this I
mean the programming interface, and not the applications used
to control the device. Since the latter are either Windows
applications, or Linux, device independent applications,
the device choice doesn't have that much to do with this.
I really have no clue. I don't have a real application in mind. I'm
just curious. If this has already been hashed out earlier in this
thread, I apologize for repeating, and I'll withstand being
ignored.
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leslie.polzer(a)gmx.net wrote:
I can route the Line-In through, but I can't seem
to get any capture off
it.
Changing mixer controls didn't help a bit.
Any ideas or experiences with this card?
Leslie
I had a SBLive! until I blew the card with too high a level while
trying to work out how to record Line-In.
I now have the SB Audigy 2 ZS internal. Uses the same driver as the
Live!.
1. Using Alsamixer, press the F5 key to see ALL the controls (check
the View: line at the top)
2. Turn on the Line control. I set the volume level at 94.
3. Go down to the Analog M control. I set the volume level to 96.
(This may not actually be a requirement, but I do it anyway.)
4. Go right beside it to the Analog M Capture control (this is
probably the control you are not setting. Without this on, you're not
going to get any input from the Line-In hardware jack. I also think
it would be needed if you trying to record the Audio CD input,
depending on which type of input you are using: analog or digital). I
set the volume level at 94.
You can record the Line-In jack now.
I turn off the PCM Capture control if I'm only recording Line-In. You
could leave it on to capture PCM sounds, like your audio software
playing a song while you record vocals to it with the Line-In.
I think that's what the Analog Mixer is for, being able to mix various
inputs at the same time, and Analog Mixer Capture will let you record
it. But for Line-In, the PCM is not being used and you *have* to use
Analog Mixer Capture.
Hope this helps,
Stephen.
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