måndag 06 december 2010 10.32.41 skrev rosea.grammostola: ... Oh yes, It is incredible good - like most of the instruments they have. Jostein

On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 10:05 +0000, James Stone wrote: I'll admit there's a significant "because I can" factor :) There are some advantages to using LinuxSampler, though -- it uses less RAM for large sounds (since it streams data from disk), and it's easy to create and recall instrument setups for a complete track. If you're already using LinuxSampler for one instrument on your track, it's easier to load more instruments in to that than to fire up Qsynth/FluidSynth as well. I think SFZ has limitations when it comes to handling multiple sounds within a single file, though, so it's no substitute for SF2 and FluidSynth when it comes to handling GM sets. Thanks Leigh

On 12/06/2010 11:49 AM, Julien Claassen wrote: So both Pianoteq and Sampletekk are good to work with? I have some issues with the Learjeff soundfont as I am a tuning freak. His Rhodes was either slightly out of tune or a wee bit badly intonated. Or maybe I can do something about this? Maybe there's something going wrong while up/downsampling? Best, Jeremy

On 12/06/2010 12:17 PM, Julien Claassen wrote: Hello Julien, Ok, so it's either the soundfont, my ears or my own instruments. I've tried the Learjeff Rhodes soundfont with a couple of my recordings of me and my acoustic guitar and of my band but I couldn't fit in the Rhodes, it just wrung with the other instruments. I've also tried it with some other samples and it doesn't really feel harmonious either: http://linux.autostatic.com/temp/theinfiniterepeat-sleepylittlelou-mixdown.… You can try swami to edit the Thanks for the tip but I have no experience with Swami and my bet is that editing a whole 75Mb soundfont could be quite tedious. Best, Jeremy

On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 12:12 +0100, Jeremy Jongepier wrote: If you're curious about the Pianoteq Rhodes emulation (or any other part of Pianoteq), just head to the website and grab the demo: http://www.pianoteq.com/try It's a small (25MB or so) download, and it's very easy to get going. Unless you have a total aversion to proprietary software, I think you owe it to yourself to check it out. FWIW, I haven't purchased the Rhodes/Wurlitzer add-on yet, but I've played with it a little and it sounded great to me. I haven't had a need for a Rhodes sound yet, but when I do, it'll almost certainly be the one I go for. Pianoteq itself I can't recommend enough. It sounds great, of course (as good as a sampled piano to my ears), but above all else it feels "alive" beneath your fingers in a way I've never experienced in a sampled piano. It also gives you a range of piano sounds in a scant 30MB or so, rather than one piano sound in a 1-2GB sample library, so it's great for smaller systems like laptops. If you just need a great piano sound from your sequencer, the Salamander and LinuxSampler CVS will do a stellar job, but if you want an instrument to play and feel that'll make you forget that you're just sending MIDI signals from a plastic keyboard, Pianoteq is just brilliant. Thanks Leigh

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Julien Claassen <julien(a)c-lab.de> wrote: No. That's a fundamental misconception about the Pianoteq piano synth engine. Its a physically modelled piano and mic and reverb setup, which means that you can change an awful lot of parameters that are actually associated with a physical piano: hammer hardness, mic position, sympathetic resonance, string tension, tuning and more. The notion that Pianoteq's piano has "a sound" is fundamentally wrong, although it may be true that the internals of their model do make certain possibilities unachievable. It is not sample-based instrument, and so cannot be judged by "listening to a few tracks". What you heard wer some specific settings that someone chose to use. Unlike a sample-based piano, Pianoteq can do a job of being a Bosendorfer OR a Steinway, with a wrecked sound box or a very lively one. etc. etc. etc.

On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 12:48 +0100, Julien Claassen wrote: It's definitely interesting to hear everyone's thoughts on the different options out there. Of course, there'll never be one "best" way to make piano sounds under Linux, but that seems perfectly normal in the world of music -- just try asking a bunch of guitarists which the "best" guitar is :) I do think it's hard to judge Pianoteq just by listening to it -- I'm sure it doesn't sound quite as good as some of the very best sampled libraries, but it really does seem to spring to life under your fingers. It's definitely a lot of fun to use, and it does give you a great range of piano sounds for the money. Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to try any of Sampletekk's libraries; it's a shame that's it's really impossible to "try before you buy" with sample libraries. My experience with large piano sample libraries comes from the free instruments that LinuxSampler can run: the Maestro Grand from the LinuxSampler site, the Sonart Yamaha C7 (which sadly no longer seems to be available), and of course the Salamander. They all sound great, but they all lack that "feel" that I find Pianoteq has when I play it. I'm always after more options, though, so if Sampletekk does have a sale coming up I might just have to grab the Jr version of their grands :) Thanks Leigh