23 Jan
2006
23 Jan
'06
1:20 a.m.
Hello ... (as an aside, please count me in as another Slackware-10.2
user, installing packages that don't ship with Slackware from source;
I've been off the list for a while, but just browsed the recent archives
and spotted that thread while looking for a solution to what follows ...)
After my partially crippled music workstation workstation finally stopped
booting altogether, I finally replaced it about a month ago (in fact,
the hardware itself was replaced just about exactly a month ago, though
I salvaged the audio interface from the previous system).
The system is an AMD Athlon64, with a Cirrus Logic CS 4624 sound card
("Hercules Fortissimo Game Surround"), and an onboard ATI SB400 AC'97
Audio Controller. It seems that the ATI sound interface may be better
than the CS 4624 for some things, though it doesn't appear to have
any MIDI support, which the CS 4624 does, and which I consider quite
important for my purposes. Drivers for both sound devices are compiled
into a custom monolithic kernel. I haven't decided yet whether I'm
going to try using them together (for example to provide additional
outputs while processing sound files and mixing), or whether I'll use
one in favour of the other, but whichever I do, I'm going to need to to
use the CS46xx card for MIDI input and output.
I recently installed Rosegarden-4-1.0, after having last tried Rosegarden
in late 2003 (rosegarden-4.0.9.1), and previously having successfully
used Rosegarden-2.1 to some extent. Before I go on, I have to take a
moment to say thank you to the folks who worked on that (and frankly
on the couple dozen or so other audio applications I've installed that
are turning this system into a very respectable music workstation: from
Audacity and LinuxSampler, to Ardour and JAMin, and all the support
applications, gui frontends, and libraries that make them all tick).
You guys have (all!) done really great work.
Now the problem I'm having, I imagine is due more to my own lack of
understanding than to any failure in the software or (I hope) an error
in installation.
Most things I use seem to be working fine: I can control LinuxSampler (and
FLUIDSynth, with which I've also tested Rosegarden) from a MIDI keyboard
plugged into the computer's MIDI input (through a MIDI patchbay, but
it isn't configured to apply any sort of filtering on the MIDI stream).
I can play MIDI files with aplaymidi through a synthesizer plugged into
the computer's MIDI output (through the same MIDI patchbay). However,
I can't seem to get any MIDI output from Rosegarden, either through
the softsynths (LinuxSampler or FLUIDsynth) or out the computer's MIDI
out port.
I've tried various configurations with JACK, but still no progress.
Can someone suggest where I should be looking for more information
about this? I'll certainly provide more information if I've overlooked
anything important.
I've not tried Rosegarden's audio support (yet), though I was relieved to
find that it seems to import Rosegarden-2.x files apparently flawlessly.
Audio out works fine from other applications I've tried, though (Ardour,
Audacity, FluidSynth and LinuxSampler), so I'm not expecting to have
any problems with this function in Rosegarden.
Any help with my MIDI problem would be greatly appreciated ...
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Sylvain Robitaille syl(a)alcor.concordia.ca
Major in Electroacoustic Studies Concordia University
Faculty of Fine Arts / Music Department Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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23 Jan
23 Jan
1:39 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] rosegarden-4-1.0: can't seem to get any MIDI out ...
Sylvain Robitaille wrote:
Hello ... (as an aside, please count me in as another Slackware-10.2
user, installing packages that don't ship with Slackware from source;
I've been off the list for a while, but just browsed the recent archives
and spotted that thread while looking for a solution to what follows ...)
After my partially crippled music workstation workstation finally stopped
booting altogether, I finally replaced it about a month ago (in fact,
the hardware itself was replaced just about exactly a month ago, though
I salvaged the audio interface from the previous system).
The system is an AMD Athlon64, with a Cirrus Logic CS 4624 sound card
("Hercules Fortissimo Game Surround"), and an onboard ATI SB400 AC'97
Audio Controller. It seems that the ATI sound interface may be better
than the CS 4624 for some things, though it doesn't appear to have
any MIDI support, which the CS 4624 does, and which I consider quite
important for my purposes. Drivers for both sound devices are compiled
into a custom monolithic kernel. I haven't decided yet whether I'm
going to try using them together (for example to provide additional
outputs while processing sound files and mixing), or whether I'll use
one in favour of the other, but whichever I do, I'm going to need to to
use the CS46xx card for MIDI input and output.
I recently installed Rosegarden-4-1.0, after having last tried Rosegarden
in late 2003 (rosegarden-4.0.9.1), and previously having successfully
used Rosegarden-2.1 to some extent. Before I go on, I have to take a
moment to say thank you to the folks who worked on that (and frankly
on the couple dozen or so other audio applications I've installed that
are turning this system into a very respectable music workstation: from
Audacity and LinuxSampler, to Ardour and JAMin, and all the support
applications, gui frontends, and libraries that make them all tick).
You guys have (all!) done really great work.
Now the problem I'm having, I imagine is due more to my own lack of
understanding than to any failure in the software or (I hope) an error
in installation.
Most things I use seem to be working fine: I can control LinuxSampler
(and
FLUIDSynth, with which I've also tested Rosegarden) from a MIDI keyboard
plugged into the computer's MIDI input (through a MIDI patchbay, but
it isn't configured to apply any sort of filtering on the MIDI stream).
I can play MIDI files with aplaymidi through a synthesizer plugged into
the computer's MIDI output (through the same MIDI patchbay). However,
I can't seem to get any MIDI output from Rosegarden, either through
the softsynths (LinuxSampler or FLUIDsynth) or out the computer's MIDI
out port.
I've tried various configurations with JACK, but still no progress.
Can someone suggest where I should be looking for more information
about this? I'll certainly provide more information if I've overlooked
anything important.
I've not tried Rosegarden's audio support (yet), though I was relieved to
find that it seems to import Rosegarden-2.x files apparently flawlessly.
Audio out works fine from other applications I've tried, though (Ardour,
Audacity, FluidSynth and LinuxSampler), so I'm not expecting to have
any problems with this function in Rosegarden.
Any help with my MIDI problem would be greatly appreciated ...
In Rosegarden open the dialog in composition->studio->manage MIDI
devices and check if your midi device is listed into 'Play devices'.
Then, in the main sequencer editor, right click on the channel you want
to play and select that device.
Hope this helps,
c.
--
www.cesaremarilungo.com
2:45 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] rosegarden-4-1.0: can't seem to get any MIDI out ...
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Cesare Marilungo wrote:
In Rosegarden open the dialog in
composition->studio->manage MIDI
devices and check if your midi device is listed into 'Play devices'.
I'll have to wait until I'm home and looking at it to be able to quote
details, but yes, both the hardware CS46xx MIDI device and the FLUIDsynth
virtual device (when I try with that) are listed.
It occurs to me, though, that in Jack, (with QJackctl) Rosegarden shows
up on the writable MIDI devices list, but not on the readable MIDI
devices list. Might I have missed a compile-time option, perhaps?
Then, in the main sequencer editor, right click on the
channel you
want to play and select that device.
I'll give this another shot, but I'm quite certain that I've done exactly
that and tried all the available devices, with no success.
Hope this helps,
Thanks for your response. It suggests that I'm at least looking in the
right places already.
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Sylvain Robitaille syl(a)alcor.concordia.ca
Major in Electroacoustic Studies Concordia University
Faculty of Fine Arts / Music Department Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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24 Jan
24 Jan
12:25 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] rosegarden-4-1.0: can't seem to get any MIDI out ...
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Cesare Marilungo wrote:
In Rosegarden open the dialog in
composition->studio->manage MIDI
devices and check if your midi device is listed into 'Play devices'.
Listed and selected as the "MIDI output system device".
Then, in the main sequencer editor, right click on the
channel you
want to play and select that device.
Done. All tracks unmuted (just to be sure); no output from MIDI jack.
I use an LED soldered to a DIN-5 socket as a tester, and aplaymidi
produces the expected type of LED blinking if I use it to "play" a
MIDI file. This confirms to me (I believe) that both the hardware and
the OS level support are functioning properly. If there's something
else I can do to provide additional confirmation whether that's true,
I hope someone will suggest it.
Hope this helps,
I'm seriously wondering about the fact that Rosegarden does not show up in
JACK's MIDI "readable clients / output ports" list, and would appreciate
confirmation of whether I should be expecting to see it listed there.
--
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Sylvain Robitaille syl(a)alcor.concordia.ca
Major in Electroacoustic Studies Concordia University
Faculty of Fine Arts / Music Department Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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12:40 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] rosegarden-4-1.0: can't seem to get any MIDI out ...
Sylvain Robitaille wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Cesare Marilungo wrote:
I don't have Rosegarden listed in the "readable clients / output
ports"
but If I play my midi keyboard through Rosegarden and then out to
ZynAddSubFx it works.
c.
In Rosegarden open the dialog in
composition->studio->manage MIDI
devices and check if your midi device is listed into 'Play devices'.
Listed and selected as the "MIDI output system device".
Then, in the main sequencer editor, right click
on the channel you
want to play and select that device.
Done. All tracks unmuted (just to be sure); no output from MIDI jack.
I use an LED soldered to a DIN-5 socket as a tester, and aplaymidi
produces the expected type of LED blinking if I use it to "play" a
MIDI file. This confirms to me (I believe) that both the hardware and
the OS level support are functioning properly. If there's something
else I can do to provide additional confirmation whether that's true,
I hope someone will suggest it.
Hope this helps,
I'm seriously wondering about the fact that Rosegarden does not show
up in
JACK's MIDI "readable clients / output ports" list, and would appreciate
confirmation of whether I should be expecting to see it listed there.
2:05 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: rosegarden-4-1.0: can't seem to get any MIDI out ...
It's probably not finding the midi device... do an strace on
rosegarden to see what midi devices it's trying to open and see if
they are in /dev
On 1/24/06, Cesare Marilungo <cesare(a)poeticstudios.com> wrote:
Sylvain Robitaille wrote:
--
Mike Taht
PostCards From the Bleeding Edge
http://the-edge.blogspot.com
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Cesare Marilungo wrote:
I don't have Rosegarden listed in the "readable clients / output
ports"
but If I play my midi keyboard through Rosegarden and then out to
ZynAddSubFx it works.
c.
In Rosegarden open the dialog in
composition->studio->manage MIDI
devices and check if your midi device is listed into 'Play devices'.
Listed and selected as the "MIDI output system device".
Then, in the main sequencer editor, right click
on the channel you
want to play and select that device.
Done. All tracks unmuted (just to be sure); no output from MIDI jack.
I use an LED soldered to a DIN-5 socket as a tester, and aplaymidi
produces the expected type of LED blinking if I use it to "play" a
MIDI file. This confirms to me (I believe) that both the hardware and
the OS level support are functioning properly. If there's something
else I can do to provide additional confirmation whether that's true,
I hope someone will suggest it.
Hope this helps,
I'm seriously wondering about the fact that Rosegarden does not show
up in
JACK's MIDI "readable clients / output ports" list, and would appreciate
confirmation of whether I should be expecting to see it listed there.
3:34 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: rosegarden-4-1.0: can't seem to get any MIDI out ...
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Midi has actually nothing to do with Jack. Jack cares only about audio
streams.
As far as I know there are some problems in the compatibility of
qjackctl and Rosegarden (described in "Rosegarden Companion"). So you
should use only Rosegarden for linking the MIDI devices.
Markus
Mike Taht wrote:
It's probably not finding the midi device... do an
strace on
rosegarden to see what midi devices it's trying to open and see if
they are in /dev
On 1/24/06, Cesare Marilungo <cesare(a)poeticstudios.com> wrote:
Sylvain Robitaille wrote:
--
Mike Taht
PostCards From the Bleeding Edge
http://the-edge.blogspot.com On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Cesare Marilungo wrote:
I don't have Rosegarden listed in the "readable clients / output ports"
but If I play my midi keyboard through Rosegarden and then out to
ZynAddSubFx it works.
c.
In Rosegarden open the dialog in
composition->studio->manage MIDI
devices and check if your midi device is listed into 'Play devices'.
Listed and selected as the "MIDI output system device".
Then, in the main sequencer editor, right click on
the channel you
want to play and select that device.
Done. All tracks unmuted (just to be sure); no output from MIDI jack.
I use an LED soldered to a DIN-5 socket as a tester, and aplaymidi
produces the expected type of LED blinking if I use it to "play" a
MIDI file. This confirms to me (I believe) that both the hardware and
the OS level support are functioning properly. If there's something
else I can do to provide additional confirmation whether that's true,
I hope someone will suggest it.
Hope this helps,
I'm seriously wondering about the fact that Rosegarden does not show
up in
JACK's MIDI "readable clients / output ports" list, and would appreciate
confirmation of whether I should be expecting to see it listed there.
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