17 Aug
2009
17 Aug
'09
7:52 p.m.
hi all,
In between smashing flies that came sitting on my hands while
typing, and taking cold showers (we have some heath wave here)
I wrote an auto-wah LADSPA plugin. It's available from the
usual place:
<http://www.kokkinizita.net/linuxaudio/downloads/WAH-plugins-0.0.1.tar.bz2>
Since I'm not a guitarist I'll need user feedback to improve it.
Enjoy !
--
FA
Io lo dico sempre: l'Italia è troppo stretta e lunga.
19 Aug
19 Aug
5:49 p.m.
Fons Adriaensen wrote:
hi all,
In between smashing flies that came sitting on my hands while
typing, and taking cold showers (we have some heath wave here)
I wrote an auto-wah LADSPA plugin. It's available from the
usual place:
<http://www.kokkinizita.net/linuxaudio/downloads/WAH-plugins-0.0.1.tar.bz2>
Since I'm not a guitarist I'll need user feedback to improve it.
Enjoy !
Thanks,
What is 'auto' about it? How can I use it with my guitar?
\r
6:07 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:49:10PM +0200, Grammostola Rosea wrote:
What is 'auto' about it?
See the README.
How can I use it with my guitar?
Insert it in the signal path using a LADSPA host of your
choice, play the guitar, and adjust the controls.
Ciao,
--
FA
Io lo dico sempre: l'Italia è troppo stretta e lunga.
6:43 p.m.
Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:49:10PM +0200, Grammostola
Rosea wrote:
Thanks. It sounds nice, but I am not an expert and find it hard to give
good feedback right now.
Maybe it would be nice to add it to guitarix.
And it would be nice if you could control it with your feet, like a real
wah...
\r
What is 'auto' about it?
See the README.
How can I use it with my guitar?
Insert it in the signal path using a LADSPA host of your
choice, play the guitar, and adjust the controls.
6:48 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Grammostola
Rosea<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks. It sounds nice, but I am not an expert and
find it hard to give
good feedback right now.
Maybe it would be nice to add it to guitarix.
And it would be nice if you could control it with your feet, like a real
wah...
maybe you don't understand how plugins and hosts work. this type of
control is up to the host. it has nothing particularly to do with the
plugin at all, which is basically just a DSP engine. put a different
way: you could stick this into an appropriate host and control it with
your feet. you could also stick into an inappropriate host and not
have any control of any kind (GUI, feet, etc etc).
6:56 p.m.
Paul Davis wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Grammostola
Rosea<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I use it with jack-rack now. But it's pretty hard to control the mouse
with my feet ;)
Is there hardware which makes it able to control hosts like jack-rack
with your feet?
\r
Thanks. It sounds nice, but I am not an expert
and find it hard to give
good feedback right now.
Maybe it would be nice to add it to guitarix.
And it would be nice if you could control it with your feet, like a real
wah...
maybe you don't understand how plugins and hosts work. this type of
control is up to the host. it has nothing particularly to do with the
plugin at all, which is basically just a DSP engine. put a different
way: you could stick this into an appropriate host and control it with
your feet. you could also stick into an inappropriate host and not
have any control of any kind (GUI, feet, etc etc).
6:58 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Grammostola
Rosea<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I use it with jack-rack now. But it's pretty hard
to control the mouse
with my feet ;)
Is there hardware which makes it able to control hosts like jack-rack
with your feet?
I don't know about JackRack, but you can certainly use h/w like a
behringer fcb-1010 wih ardour to control plugins and more.
8:42 p.m.
Paul Davis wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Grammostola
Rosea<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Mmh such thing would be nice, but Linux lacks good guitar plugins
imho... (al though Rakkarack has some nice ones, guitarix is improving
and if Fons steps in... man who knows what's possible in the future..)
So with my budget it wouldn't be a very useful investment for me at the
moment...
\r
I use it with jack-rack now. But it's pretty
hard to control the mouse
with my feet ;)
Is there hardware which makes it able to control hosts like jack-rack
with your feet?
I don't know about JackRack, but you can certainly use h/w like a
behringer fcb-1010 wih ardour to control plugins and more.
8:50 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Grammostola
Rosea<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Paul Davis wrote:
you can use it to control sooperlooper and freewheeling as well. just
FYI. not to mention interacting with cool pure data patches,
supercollider setups and lots more. its just MIDI!
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Grammostola
Rosea<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Mmh such thing would be nice, but Linux lacks good guitar plugins
imho... I use it with jack-rack now. But it's pretty
hard to control the mouse
with my feet ;)
Is there hardware which makes it able to control hosts like jack-rack
with your feet?
I don't know about JackRack, but you can certainly use h/w like a
behringer fcb-1010 wih ardour to control plugins and more.
9:03 p.m.
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Paul Davis wrote:
Mmh such thing would be nice, but Linux lacks good guitar plugins
imho...
you can use it to control sooperlooper and freewheeling as well. just
FYI. not to mention interacting with cool pure data patches,
supercollider setups and lots more. its just MIDI!
I've got JACK Rack 1.4.7 (64Studio 3.0 beta), and you can control stuff
with MIDI. Right click the control that you want to add... and a dialog
pops up for you to set which MIDI Channel and CC# to listen for.
And ditto on the FCB-1010. I have one, and find it very valuable. :-)
You can pick them up used for about US$100. There's also a "hot rodded"
firmware available (called "Uno") that adds features like a stomp-box
mode.
Peace,
Gabriel
I use it with jack-rack now. But it's pretty
hard to control the mouse
with my feet ;)
Is there hardware which makes it able to control hosts like jack-rack
with your feet?
I don't know about JackRack, but you can certainly use h/w like a
behringer fcb-1010 wih ardour to control plugins and more.
20 Aug
20 Aug
9:14 a.m.
Greetings,
Some time ago I recorded a brief improv to show off the Auto-wah in the
Luxonix LFX-1310 VST plugin. I haven't tried Fons's software yet, but
for comparison here's what the Luxonix version sounds like:
http://linux-sound.org/audio/Improv2-Live.ogg
IIRC I left its settings at their default values.
Best,
dp
19 Aug
19 Aug
6:58 p.m.
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Grammostola Rosea wrote:
And it would be nice if you could control it with your feet, like a real
wah...
But... that defeats the purpose of being an _AUTO_-wah, doesn't it? :-)
A normal wah is foot controlled. But suppose that every time you strike a
note, you also push your foot forward. This is not uncommon to do in some
styles of music (esp. rock/funk).
An auto-wah attempts to automate this action based on the signal. When
it detects an "attack" in the signal, it "pushes the foot foward."
When
it detects a "decay" in the signal, it "rocks the foot back." Since
the
rocking of the wah is being automated it is called an auto-wah. You're
not supposed to be able to control it with your feet.
Auto-wahs have a slightly different characteristic from, erm... manual
wahs. And they are typically used by guitar players. (Like me... who
will try this one out tonight...)
HTH,
Gabriel
p.s. forgive me if you already know all this... but from your last couple
posts, it would seem that you do not. :-)
7:11 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 03:58:11PM -0500, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:
An auto-wah attempts to automate this action based on
the signal. When
it detects an "attack" in the signal, it "pushes the foot foward."
When
it detects a "decay" in the signal, it "rocks the foot back." Since
the
rocking of the wah is being automated it is called an auto-wah. You're
not supposed to be able to control it with your feet.
The plugin could do both at a time, the 'foot' control would then
shift the fequency range.
Ciao,
--
FA
Io lo dico sempre: l'Italia è troppo stretta e lunga.
8:01 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 04:15:22PM -0500, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Exactly. It could be that the Freq control needs some more
smoothing if used like that - this will depend very much
on the controller used.
Ciao,
--
FA
Io lo dico sempre: l'Italia è troppo stretta e lunga.
The plugin could do both at a time, the 'foot' control would then
shift the fequency range.
So, to use this plugin as a strictly manual wah, would I set 'Range' to
zero and then use an expression pedal to control 'Freq'? 
10:16 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:10:08PM +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 03:58:11PM -0500, Gabriel M.
Beddingfield wrote:
OK, I'm going to share a secret.
I wanted this plugin, to test a hunch, and the evidence so far supports my hunch.
John Medeski uses what sounds like a Clavinet played through an auto-wah stomp box. But he
gets some interesting effects that sounds like he's also playing it through a wah-wah
pedal, but not quite. He holds a chord and then while it's decaying the filter is
opening at times, rather than closing.
Maybe he's got both a wah and an auto-wah, but I had a hunch that perhaps he has a
VOLUME pedal on the clav, then from there into the auto-wah (and into a guitar amp,
apparnetly, based on the distortion he can get). The volume going up would then open up
the filter, which would otherwise follow the ADSR of the pick striking the Clavinet keys.
So, with Fons's plugin, I was able to get the same effect. I'm doing some Medeski,
Martin, and Wood covers these days ;-).
I have the clav through the autowah. I use the volume/expression pedal on my keyboard
controller.
I have several of the parameters of Fons' plugins set to a CC on my MIDI controller,
using JACK-RACK, so I can adjust them while performing too.
And, now, I must go off to rehearsal :-)
Thanks, Fons!!
-ken
An auto-wah attempts to automate this action
based on the signal. When
it detects an "attack" in the signal, it "pushes the foot foward."
When
it detects a "decay" in the signal, it "rocks the foot back." Since
the
rocking of the wah is being automated it is called an auto-wah. You're
not supposed to be able to control it with your feet.
The plugin could do both at a time, the 'foot' control would then
shift the fequency range.
20 Aug
20 Aug
6:24 a.m.
On 08/20/2009 10:15 AM, Ken Restivo wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:10:08PM +0200, Fons
Adriaensen wrote:
Sounds like a lot of fun and a great way to enjoy your setup to the
maximum of it's potential.
Looking forward to hearing the inevitable fusion of your efforts. I can
only imagine the cool funky jazzy jams you are getting into at the
moment. Gotta be some new sounds coming out of those.
Good vibes fo shore wa!!!
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 03:58:11PM -0500, Gabriel
M. Beddingfield wrote:
OK, I'm going to share a secret.
I wanted this plugin, to test a hunch, and the evidence so far supports my hunch.
John Medeski uses what sounds like a Clavinet played through an auto-wah stomp box. But
he gets some interesting effects that sounds like he's also playing it through a
wah-wah pedal, but not quite. He holds a chord and then while it's decaying the filter
is opening at times, rather than closing.
Maybe he's got both a wah and an auto-wah, but I had a hunch that perhaps he has a
VOLUME pedal on the clav, then from there into the auto-wah (and into a guitar amp,
apparnetly, based on the distortion he can get). The volume going up would then open up
the filter, which would otherwise follow the ADSR of the pick striking the Clavinet keys.
So, with Fons's plugin, I was able to get the same effect. I'm doing some
Medeski, Martin, and Wood covers these days ;-).
I have the clav through the autowah. I use the volume/expression pedal on my keyboard
controller.
I have several of the parameters of Fons' plugins set to a CC on my MIDI controller,
using JACK-RACK, so I can adjust them while performing too.
And, now, I must go off to rehearsal :-)
An auto-wah attempts to automate this action
based on the signal. When
it detects an "attack" in the signal, it "pushes the foot foward."
When
it detects a "decay" in the signal, it "rocks the foot back." Since
the
rocking of the wah is being automated it is called an auto-wah. You're
not supposed to be able to control it with your feet.
The plugin could do both at a time, the 'foot' control would then
shift the fequency range.
Thanks, Fons!!
-ken
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11:46 a.m.
Hi All,
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
The plugin could do both at a time, the 'foot' control would then
shift the fequency range.
Nice Wah! Thanks for the plugin! I played with this plugin last night
and thought I would share the settings I liked best.
Rig: Elect. Guit. w/humbuckers. I think I used the
neck pickup.
PodXT Live with AC-30 amp and Tube Screamer
JACK Rack controlled by FCB-1010
Strong signal to audio card
Tone: Santana-like
Manual Wah Settings:
Drive: -20
Decay: 0
Range: 0
Freq.: Set the expression pedal so that it sweeps
between .4 (heel) and .75 (toe)
Mix: 1.0
Auto-Wah Settings:
Drive: Between -20 and -12
Decay: Between 0 and about .13
Range: Between 0 and .5
Freq.: 0.4
Mix: 1.0
Hope this helps,
Gabriel
19 Aug
19 Aug
7 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:43:08PM +0200, Grammostola Rosea wrote:
And it would be nice if you could control it with your
feet, like a real
wah...
insert it inin a LADSPA host that allows you to bind plugin
control ports to a MIDI control messages, do this for the 'Freq'
control and use a MIDI pedal.
Ciao,
--
FA
Io lo dico sempre: l'Italia è troppo stretta e lunga.
7:02 p.m.
In Aug 19 A.D. 2009 Fons Adriaensen scripsit:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:43:08PM +0200, Grammostola
Rosea wrote:
A nice host might be ecamegapedal or ecasound
directly. I know, that
ecasound can do it and ecamegapedal was designed for fooling around with
effects.
Kindest regards
Julien
And it would be nice if you could control it with
your feet, like a real
wah...
insert it inin a LADSPA host that allows you to bind plugin
control ports to a MIDI control messages, do this for the 'Freq'
control and use a MIDI pedal.
Ciao,
--
FA
Io lo dico sempre: l'Italia è troppo stretta e lunga.
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11:32 p.m.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)kokkinizita.net>wrote;wrote:
hi all,
In between smashing flies that came sitting on my hands while
typing, and taking cold showers (we have some heath wave here)
I wrote an auto-wah LADSPA plugin. It's available from the
usual place:
<http://www.kokkinizita.net/linuxaudio/downloads/WAH-plugins-0.0.1.tar.bz2
Since I'm not a guitarist I'll need user feedback to improve it.
Enjoy !
Fons,
It sounds beautiful!
Much better than the homemade wah that I built from a combination of your
MVC plugin, bandpass and volume control!
I played with it a few minutes tonight, but the kids are in bed so I can't
really crank it up. I've got it routed through jack rack controlled by my
FCB1010.
This is great. Thanks,
Bill
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