29 Oct
2006
29 Oct
'06
6:58 p.m.
Just reporting on status of hooking up VOIP to JACK. I'm sure there
are many wondering.
I found twinkle softphone to work very well with oss2jack. (I'm on
linux-2.6.18-rt1). Twinkle unfortunately does not separate the UI from
the core, but it's the only piece of software I've found that works.
I hope we can get the LAD VOIP channel up and running again.
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29 Oct
29 Oct
7:04 p.m.
Just reporting on status of hooking up VOIP to JACK.
I'm sure there
are many wondering.
I found twinkle softphone to work very well with oss2jack. (I'm on
linux-2.6.18-rt1). Twinkle unfortunately does not separate the UI from
the core, but it's the only piece of software I've found that works.
does that require OSS emulation? sounds like a lot of work. is there a good wiki entry on
using oss2jack?
twinkle doesnt work with plug:jack (i thas a similar problem to sweep, where it thinks 0
devices exist)
ekiga works fine with plug:jack. in fact it works better than pure hw: or plughw: where i
get intractible stuttering and no options to adust the buffer size etc
and yeah. a native JACK VOIP client with no GUI, woudl be nice.. something that just
autoconnects or soething, maybe a small ncurses daemon, ive heard you can use asterisk as
a softphone, but afaik it has no jack support..
ekiga isnt perfect, i get nothing but silence when calling my own asterisk. but can make
calls via other asterisks running at commercial VOIP providers no problem, and ive enabled
all the codecs. .. a few versions ago it didnt have the problem, but back then it didnt
work right with jack plug.
and it still likes to get into tripped out feedback loops sometimes when initiating a
call. and afaik you cant run asterisk and ekiga on the same host without manualy overring
the port 5060 in their configs since otherwise they both contend for it..
iow, VOIP on linux? totall sucks . as a user.. as a server, im sure it kicks ass thanks to
asterisk ...
2 Nov
2 Nov
12:32 p.m.
carmen <_(a)whats-your.name> writes:
does that require OSS emulation?
For the moment; only thing that works for me without too much problems
is twinkle.
sounds like a lot of work.
Not really, it's just compiling a firing up oss2jack, but it's not a
clean solution and it has its limitations.
is there a good wiki entry on using oss2jack?
After I compile it and load the kfusd module, I:
#mv /dev/dsp /dev/dsp-org
#ln -s /dev/dsp5 /dev/dsp
$oss2jack -V -n 5
twinkle doesnt work with plug:jack
I have found plug:jack to not work with anything. My setup is 96kHz
and that's the reason for a lot of it.
something that just autoconnects
Auto connection is evil, pure evil, as in the fruits of the devil;).
maybe a small ncurses daemon
A jacked daemon, then have your choice of client to use;).
you can use asterisk as a softphone
Yeah, I did use that before with oss2jack. I'm happily a non asterisk
user now, cause that piece of software has got some serious vitamin b
deficiencies;). I use freeswitch at the time.
ekiga isnt perfect, i get nothing but silence
My mother uses ekiga without problems, but that's ALSA.
you cant run asterisk and ekiga on the same host
without manualy
overring the port 5060
Well, sure, the server should have 5060 and all clients can have
whatever.
VOIP on linux? totall sucks . as a user..
It's a little jungle;), but much works without JACK.
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8 Nov
8 Nov
9:41 a.m.
Hi,
linphone has jack-support for quite a while now. And there is even a
console version of it. But I haven't used it for some time. So I cannot
say anything about the current status of it.
MfG
Tobias
Am Donnerstag, den 02.11.2006, 13:51 +0100 schrieb Esben Stien:
carmen <_(a)whats-your.name> writes:
does that require OSS emulation?
For the moment; only thing that works for me without too much problems
is twinkle.
sounds like a lot of work.
Not really, it's just compiling a firing up oss2jack, but it's not a
clean solution and it has its limitations.
is there a good wiki entry on using oss2jack?
After I compile it and load the kfusd module, I:
#mv /dev/dsp /dev/dsp-org
#ln -s /dev/dsp5 /dev/dsp
$oss2jack -V -n 5
twinkle doesnt work with plug:jack
I have found plug:jack to not work with anything. My setup is 96kHz
and that's the reason for a lot of it.
something that just autoconnects
Auto connection is evil, pure evil, as in the fruits of the devil;).
maybe a small ncurses daemon
A jacked daemon, then have your choice of client to use;).
you can use asterisk as a softphone
Yeah, I did use that before with oss2jack. I'm happily a non asterisk
user now, cause that piece of software has got some serious vitamin b
deficiencies;). I use freeswitch at the time.
ekiga isnt perfect, i get nothing but silence
My mother uses ekiga without problems, but that's ALSA.
you cant run asterisk and ekiga on the same host
without manualy
overring the port 5060
Well, sure, the server should have 5060 and all clients can have
whatever.
VOIP on linux? totall sucks . as a user..
It's a little jungle;), but much works without JACK.
5:18 p.m.
Tobias Gehrig <Tobias.Gehrig(a)ira.uka.de> writes:
linphone has jack-support for quite a while
Yeah, used it for a long time, but this piece of jack code has
horrible bugs;). I'm so glad I found a solution outside linphone.
The new linphone does not even use this code, so a buggy JACK capable
linphone is only available in the old linphone. I really like its
core/UI separation part, though; really proper way to make software;).
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29 Oct
29 Oct
7:21 p.m.
On Monday, 30. October 2006 01:44, Esben Stien wrote:
I found twinkle softphone to work very well with
oss2jack. (I'm on
linux-2.6.18-rt1). Twinkle unfortunately does not separate the UI from
the core, but it's the only piece of software I've found that works.
How did you get oss2jack to work on kernel 2.6.18? I tried, but oss2jack
depends on fusd-kor, which seems to require devfs. And devfs no longer
exists in 2.6.18... Are there updated versions of oss2jack or fusd
available somewhere?
Dominic
8:09 p.m.
Dominic Sacré wrote:
[cut]
How did you get oss2jack to work on kernel 2.6.18? I
tried, but oss2jack
depends on fusd-kor, which seems to require devfs. And devfs no longer
exists in 2.6.18... Are there updated versions of oss2jack or fusd
available somewhere?
I posted a simple patch some of weeks ago for fusd-kor-1.10-11 that
disabled devfs and debug to make it build under 2.6.18:
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-audio-users/msg38324.html
...in which I forgot to attach the patch, as Lee Revell noted... :)
The patch is in this one:
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-audio-users/msg38326.html
Hope this helps, ciao!
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27 Nov
27 Nov
7:53 p.m.
Esben Stien <b0ef(a)esben-stien.name> writes:
I found twinkle softphone to work very well with
oss2jack.
Well, not that well. In fact, less well than kphone, so I'm moving
back to kphone/oss2jack, which has less hickups with desktop activity.
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9:17 p.m.
On Tue Nov 28, 2006 at 02:40:58AM +0100, Esben Stien wrote:
Esben Stien <b0ef(a)esben-stien.name> writes:
ekiga works great with this asound.conf:
pcm.!default {
type plug
slave { pcm "jack" }
}
pcm.jack {
type jack
playback_ports {
0 alsa_pcm:playback_1
1 alsa_pcm:playback_2
}
capture_ports {
0 alsa_pcm:capture_1
1 alsa_pcm:capture_2
}
}
plus it doesnt require KDE or OSS..
I found twinkle softphone to work very well with
oss2jack.
Well, not that well. In fact, less well than kphone, so I'm moving
back to kphone/oss2jack, which has less hickups with desktop activity.
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28 Nov
28 Nov
5:36 a.m.
carmen <_(a)whats-your.name> writes:
ekiga works great (asound.conf)
Not when running at 96kHz.
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6:49 a.m.
Esben Stien escribe:
carmen <_(a)whats-your.name> writes:
Phone calls at 96kHz, what happened to good old 4kHz!?
Cordially, Ismael
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ekiga works great (asound.conf)
Not when running at 96kHz.
9:20 a.m.
Ismael Valladolid Torres <ivalladolidt(a)terra.es> writes:
Phone calls at 96kHz, what happened to good old 4kHz!?
Well, I got 10000 jack apps going at 96kHz and I ain't stopping
everything to take an inbound call;).
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10:09 a.m.
On Tue Nov 28, 2006 at 04:08:29PM +0100, Esben Stien wrote:
Ismael Valladolid Torres <ivalladolidt(a)terra.es>
writes:
you sure plug:jack entry cant be decorated with some resample directives?
Phone calls at 96kHz, what happened to good old
4kHz!?
Well, I got 10000 jack apps going at 96kHz and I ain't stopping
everything to take an inbound call;).
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29 Nov
29 Nov
1:54 p.m.
carmen <_(a)whats-your.name> writes:
you sure plug:jack entry cant be decorated with some
resample
directives?
I've tried a lot, but not with newest alsa. I'll try again after my
exams.
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6:05 p.m.
Esben Stien <b0ef(a)esben-stien.name> writes:
I'll try again (with newest alsa)
..and report back
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28 Nov
10:22 a.m.
Esben Stien escribe:
I got 10000 jack apps going at 96kHz
That's what I would *never* call minimalism, then... ;)
I'd love to hear your, ehm... Music!
Cordially, Ismael
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30 Nov
30 Nov
4:11 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] LightScribe and linux
On 11/28/06, Timothy A Gorman <timg(a)expressmart.com> wrote:
Nox exactly audio related but to me it is...
http://www.lacie.com/support/drivers/driver.htm?id=10095
If it works, I'll be the happiest man in the world...
__________________
Marc-Olivier Barre,
Markinoko.
4:31 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] LightScribe and linux
I talked to tech support for Lacie and apparently it works fine. They told me
it was recompiled for Linux.
They have them in London Drugs:
http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/en-US/SearchDetail.htm?SearchString=lac…
On Thursday 30 November 2006 1:03 pm, Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
On 11/28/06, Timothy A Gorman
<timg(a)expressmart.com> wrote:
Nox exactly audio related but to me it is...
http://www.lacie.com/support/drivers/driver.htm?id=10095
If it works, I'll be the happiest man in the world...
__________________
Marc-Olivier Barre,
Markinoko. 
4:32 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] LightScribe and linux
Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
On 11/28/06, Timothy A Gorman
<timg(a)expressmart.com> wrote:
What license is this released under? I assume that it's a binary-old
proprietary license?
Thanks,
Steve
Nox exactly audio related but to me it is...
http://www.lacie.com/support/drivers/driver.htm?id=10095
If it works, I'll be
the happiest man in the world... 
1 Dec
1 Dec
12:40 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] LightScribe and linux
On 11/30/06, Stephen Hassard <steve(a)hassard.net> wrote:
Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
They spelt ubuntu wrong...
And it looks a lot like a binary only license.
Chris
On 11/28/06, Timothy A Gorman
<timg(a)expressmart.com> wrote:
What license is this released under? I assume that it's a binary-old
proprietary license?
Thanks,
Steve
Nox exactly audio related but to me it is...
http://www.lacie.com/support/drivers/driver.htm?id=10095
If it works, I'll be
the happiest man in the world... 
3:35 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] LightScribe and linux
chris beagles wrote:
On 11/30/06, Stephen Hassard <steve(a)hassard.net>
wrote:
Is there any big manufacturer who
ever released open source code?
c.
Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
They spelt ubuntu wrong...
And it looks a lot like a binary only license. On 11/28/06, Timothy A Gorman
<timg(a)expressmart.com> wrote:
What license is this released under? I assume that it's a binary-old
proprietary license?
Thanks,
Steve
Nox exactly audio related but to me it is...
http://www.lacie.com/support/drivers/driver.htm?id=10095
If it works, I'll be
the happiest man in the world...
Chris
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2 Dec
2 Dec
12:15 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] LightScribe and linux
On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:28:52PM +0000, Cesare Marilungo wrote:
chris beagles wrote:
IBM!
Chris.
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On 11/30/06, Stephen Hassard
<steve(a)hassard.net> wrote:
Is there
any big manufacturer who ever released open source code? Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
And it looks a lot like a binary only license. On 11/28/06, Timothy A Gorman
<timg(a)expressmart.com> wrote:
> http://www.lacie.com/support/drivers/driver.htm?id=10095
What license is this
released under? I assume that it's a binary-old
proprietary license?
8:51 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] LightScribe and linux
Chris McCormick wrote:
On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:28:52PM +0000, Cesare
Marilungo wrote:
Again,
I know. But I was talkting about drivers. Other examples?
c.
chris beagles wrote:
IBM!
On 11/30/06, Stephen Hassard
<steve(a)hassard.net> wrote:
Is there any big manufacturer who ever released open source code?
Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
> On 11/28/06, Timothy A Gorman <timg(a)expressmart.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.lacie.com/support/drivers/driver.htm?id=10095
>>
What license is this released under? I assume that it's a binary-old
proprietary license?
And it looks a lot like a binary only license.
Chris.
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12:09 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] LightScribe and linux
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:50:08PM +0000, Cesare Marilungo wrote:
Again,
I know. But I was talkting about drivers. Other examples?
Lots more than you might think. While many manufacturers are very
closed about implementing their drivers, there's also a bunch that
contribute to the development and support of freely licensed drivers.
Start reading the linux-kernel and xorg mailing lists. You see plenty
of people with Intel, AMD, Adaptec, Promise, among others. Read
through the source and you'll also see code that was originally
submitted by the manufacturer, but licensed freely enough that the
community can sucessfully maintain it. 3Ware is one such example.
As far as audio hardware, Creative Labs used to be a good
player - they contributed the original emu10k1 driver. They're not so
cool now; the top news item on opensource.creative.com is about
releasing proprietary drivers...
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"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37
1:11 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] LightScribe and linux
On 12/2/06, Ross Vandegrift <ross(a)kallisti.us> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:50:08PM +0000, Cesare
Marilungo wrote:
You forgot RME. They make excellent hardware, and they helped the
driver development AFAIK.
__________________
Marc-Olivier Barre,
Markinoko.
Again,
I know. But I was talkting about drivers. Other examples?
Lots more than you might think. While many manufacturers are very
closed about implementing their drivers, there's also a bunch that
contribute to the development and support of freely licensed drivers.
Start reading the linux-kernel and xorg mailing lists. You see plenty
of people with Intel, AMD, Adaptec, Promise, among others. Read
through the source and you'll also see code that was originally
submitted by the manufacturer, but licensed freely enough that the
community can sucessfully maintain it. 3Ware is one such example.
As far as audio hardware, Creative Labs used to be a good
player - they contributed the original emu10k1 driver. They're not so
cool now; the top news item on opensource.creative.com is about
releasing proprietary drivers...
1:37 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] LightScribe and linux
Ross Vandegrift wrote:
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:50:08PM +0000, Cesare
Marilungo wrote:
Yes, I knew about most of this examples. I'm not too much into these
stuff, so maybe I was wrong.
But my impression is that there's still much to do.
AFAIK, the hardware of a device is becoming less important than before.
Most devices use the same chips programmed to do different things or the
same thing in a different way. So the software side will be more
important in the future, as an investment. With DRMs and such, things
will be even worse, IMO.
Take the iPod, for instance. I can install another firmware (which is no
more just a firmware) on it (like rockbox or ipodlinux). How can Apple
be interested in this? Or in letting me use whatever software I want to
exchange tracks with the device. The iPod is more its software than its
hardware. Am I wrong?
Anyway,
I commented this news just to say that we shouldn't be surprised if a
software that comes from a big manufacturer to support some new
technology is not open source. ;-)
Cheers,
c.
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Again,
I know. But I was talkting about drivers. Other examples?
Lots more than you might think. While many manufacturers are very
closed about implementing their drivers, there's also a bunch that
contribute to the development and support of freely licensed drivers.
Start reading the linux-kernel and xorg mailing lists. You see plenty
of people with Intel, AMD, Adaptec, Promise, among others. Read
through the source and you'll also see code that was originally
submitted by the manufacturer, but licensed freely enough that the
community can sucessfully maintain it. 3Ware is one such example.
As far as audio hardware, Creative Labs used to be a good
player - they contributed the original emu10k1 driver. They're not so
cool now; the top news item on opensource.creative.com is about
releasing proprietary drivers...
4:20 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] LightScribe and linux
Hey Ross,
What is your point in using this quote below? I figure you want to talk about
it and that is why you are posting it :)
"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37
This guy was obviously part of something disguising as Christianity. I am a
Christian not a Catholic or a Protestant. My Christian heritage survived
outside the realm of Catholicism or the people who were Catholics protesting
the Catholics. It really sucks that people peg Christians for the actions of
Catholics or such posing as Christians that are very easily and provably not
following Jesus' commands. If you want to look at the real example look to
Jesus not to St. Whoever from the GSCS (Gimme Some Cash Society). I
personally do not attend a religious building due to the corruption but my
relationship with my Saviour is strong and free. It really deserves to be
lashed out at. I know! There is much to be leaned about Jesus and what he
wants for us all.
E-mail me off list if you want to talk :)
On Saturday 02 December 2006 9:09 am, Ross Vandegrift wrote:
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:50:08PM +0000, Cesare
Marilungo wrote:
Again,
I know. But I was talkting about drivers. Other examples?
Lots more than you might think. While many manufacturers are very
closed about implementing their drivers, there's also a bunch that
contribute to the development and support of freely licensed drivers.
Start reading the linux-kernel and xorg mailing lists. You see plenty
of people with Intel, AMD, Adaptec, Promise, among others. Read
through the source and you'll also see code that was originally
submitted by the manufacturer, but licensed freely enough that the
community can sucessfully maintain it. 3Ware is one such example.
As far as audio hardware, Creative Labs used to be a good
player - they contributed the original emu10k1 driver. They're not so
cool now; the top news item on opensource.creative.com is about
releasing proprietary drivers... 
3 Dec
3 Dec
5:26 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] LightScribe and linux
On Saturday 02 December 2006 20:21, stuff(a)trackingsolutions.ca was like:
What is your point in using this quote below? I figure
you want to talk
about it and that is why you are posting it :)
E-mail me off list if you want to talk :)
I would personally really appreciate it if all discussions of this nature were
kept off-list.
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30 Nov
30 Nov
4:19 p.m.
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That is great news!
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