6 Jan
2018
6 Jan
'18
12:47 a.m.
Hey hey,
a raunchy, if slightly dated, song to get the year started:
http://juliencoder.de/nama/not_that_innocent-instrumental.mp3
http://juliencoder.de/nama/not_that_innocent-instrumental.ogg
This song has been around for a while, and yet is still unfinished. I just
can't perform the vocals for it. This is the second song from the project "The
essence of". The intention is to condense and extract all kinds of elements
from certain songs and mix them into small "essential" songs, capturing the
heart and soul of particular subgenres or song types. This is a very personal
undertaking.
Though, I believe that this piece is a very loud and obvious curtsey. I leave
it to you to find out at whose shrine I've been revelling. :)
For the techs: used synths included fluidsynth (electric bass), LinuxSampler
(Rhodes, FX), Yoshimi (one choir) and Ecasound/Nama/Csound for sampling and
processing the FX. It got really physical. :) The hardware wouldn't be of
particular interest here, unless anyone is curious,...
Recording: Midish for all MIDI tracks (all except one instrument), Nama for
recording, processing, mixing and mastering and lots of LADSPA/LV2 effects,
including - but not limited to -: TAP plugins (limiter, stereo echo/delay,
- possibly some tube saturation), Invada (compressor), FIL plugin
(Fons Adriaensen's parametric 4-band EQ), G2Reverb, CAPS (chorus, plate
reverb, probably amp simulation) and lots of GLAME high- and lowpass
filtering. :)
I hope you enjoy and look forward to any feedback.
Best wishes,
Jeanette
--------
* website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound
* SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c
And when you say those words
It's the sweetest thing I've ever heard <3
(Britney Spears)
6 Jan
6 Jan
1:36 a.m.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 00:48:02 +0100 (CET)
"Jeanette C." <julien(a)mail.upb.de> wrote:
Starting to get a bit gefärlich there. This is a quite good pop base.
The breaks are there. OTOH, I say a 'base' because the vox synth is a
bit out of place. It should IMHO go much in the other way: raunchy and
choppy, with a lead vocal (or synth for instrumental) riding over it.
But not vox pads. Also, some basses here and there to put in
perspective the higher frequencies could add dynamics. All in all,
despite what my comments may sound like, very good.
Cheers.
1:46 a.m.
Hi there,
thanks for your comments. I've heard that the vocal synth/pads are a
disputable feature, but I just love that sound, it's so green. :) A lead might
have spiced up this instrumental. I only kept it that "basic" to leave the
place for the vocals in tact. To date, this is probably the most intricate
arrangement and production that I've done, starting with the sound design,
moving on to the track count and finally the fine tune of the mix, taking
about 11 revisions. :) But going for the Max Martin sound is a tall order.
This is the first time that I actually loaded a reference track into the
session. It appears to have paid off in the end. Now I only need my vocals, to
discover where I screwed up completely. :) Anyone?
Best wishes,
Jeanette
--------
* website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound
* SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c
And when you say those words
It's the sweetest thing I've ever heard <3
(Britney Spears)
1:58 a.m.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 01:45:11 +0100 (CET)
"Jeanette C." <julien(a)mail.upb.de> wrote:
But going for the Max Martin sound is a tall order.
This is the first
Well, I do not know who Max Martin is - I can look it up. However, if
you come across a very good synth lead sound that could substitute fro
a lead vocal let me know. I'm looking for such. Despite the soundsets
I have, I think it lies outside of the sound generatino itself and into
modulations.
Cheers.
4:05 a.m.
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 7:58 PM, jonetsu <jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 01:45:11 +0100 (CET)
"Jeanette C." <julien(a)mail.upb.de> wrote:
he's the most successful/popular song writer of the last, oh, 15 years or
so.
But going for the Max Martin sound is a tall
order. This is the first
Well, I do not know who Max Martin is - I can look it up. 
4:37 a.m.
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:05:38 -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 7:58 PM, jonetsu
<jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com> wrote:
https://www.google.de/search?q=trivial+pursuit&source=lnms&tbm=isch…
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 01:45:11 +0100 (CET)
"Jeanette C." <julien(a)mail.upb.de> wrote:
he's the most successful/popular song writer of the last, oh, 15
years or so. But going for the Max Martin sound is a tall
order. This is the
first
Well, I do not know who Max Martin is - I can look it up.
5:12 a.m.
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:05:38 -0500
Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
he's the most successful/popular song writer of
the last, oh, 15
years or so.
Figures, I do not listen to these songs.
What matters to me is this. "We should never get habits in music" -
from the recently released documentary film on Magma. Now 48 years old
on stage.
That and the Wavedrum technology from Standford university.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A10BboLb6GQ
OTOH, get that Max Martin guy take care of the some 55 no-go zones in
Sweden.
Cheers.
11:24 a.m.
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 23:12:08 -0500, jonetsu wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:05:38 -0500
Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
It says much about the people listening to chart music. Max Martins
compositions aren't bad, but since they are only from one composer,
they are exactly this, biased by the nature of one composer.
Many German TV documentation films are using music from Klangraum,
seemingly made by one composer, who other than Max Martin, seems to be
not musically gifted at all. One day I watched a documentation about
America, chords banjo, lead a tribal flute. If I watch any other
documentation, maybe about kois in Fukushima, nearly the same tune is
played by a koto instead of a tribal flute with more or less the same
phrasing, perhaps one or two notes are different, the backing than
likely is not played by a picked banjo, but nearly the same chords
played by a pad sound. Apart from the music those documentations are
very good, but I can't watch them anymore, because the music is that
bad composed and penetrating used by the film makers. Indeed it's not
just the fault of the composer, I've seen a documentation about
the Balkan with a theme that was ok, but repeated again and again and
again and again and again and ... the content ofthe theme could be
described as "wistfully". Even if the tune would change, a several
hours long documentation with music just representing one mood is
penetrating.
The "new" old fashion to use backwards played samples and crackle for
documentations isn't better. They avoid tunes, but instead repeat
backwards played samples and crackles.
Back to Max Martin and the chart music. I can't stand chart music
not because it's simple music, actually I prefer simple music over
overly intellectual music, let alone "artistry" (art sports) music, I
don't call it virtuous, because it isn't virtuous in a musically
sense. I can't stand chart music, because it's all the same. Btw. I
didn't know the name "Max Martins", too.
he's the most successful/popular song writer
of the last, oh, 15
years or so.
Figures, I do not listen to these songs.
What matters to me is this. "We should never get habits in music" -
from the recently released documentary film on Magma. Now 48 years old
on stage.
That and the Wavedrum technology from Standford university.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A10BboLb6GQ
OTOH, get that Max Martin guy take care of the some 55 no-go zones in
Sweden.
4:27 a.m.
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 19:58:26 -0500, jonetsu wrote:
However, if you come across a very good synth lead
sound that could
substitute fro a lead vocal let me know. I'm looking for such.
Despite the soundsets I have, I think it lies outside of the sound
generatino itself and into modulations.
Outside the Linux universe virtual synth provide e.g. choir sounds that
change the sample each time you touch a key, so if you e.g. touch the
c3 key two times by the same velocity, you still would get different
vocal modulations. The first sample might be an aaa and the second an
ooo. To some extent this works quite good for a choir pad, but it
doesn't work always as wanted, let alone that this trick won't work for
a lead sound at all. The really good solutions are much to unintuitive
to use for a musician. You could type lyrics using the qwerty keyboard,
then mark words or syllables of the words in the order they should be
used, each time you push a key on the musical instrument keyboard.
2:36 p.m.
On 06.01.2018 00:48, Jeanette C. wrote:
Hey hey,
a raunchy, if slightly dated, song to get the year started:
http://juliencoder.de/nama/not_that_innocent-instrumental.mp3
http://juliencoder.de/nama/not_that_innocent-instrumental.ogg
Heh, even ignoring that title and your email signature, this is quite
obvious. But it somehow makes me think it could be a backing track for
an adventure game, where the player slips into ... ahem, controls a ...
nono, steps into the role of a young Britney Spears. At least one scene
in that game happens in a church!?
--
Thorsten Wilms
thorwil's design for free software:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/
3:09 p.m.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 00:48:02 +0100 (CET)
"Jeanette C." <julien(a)mail.upb.de> wrote:
Hey hey,
a raunchy, if slightly dated, song to get the year started:
http://juliencoder.de/nama/not_that_innocent-instrumental.mp3
http://juliencoder.de/nama/not_that_innocent-instrumental.ogg
<snip>
I enjoyed this very much. An interesting mix of sounds, with both an real start
and finish!
I did find it a bit rigid, if you know what I mean. I don't really know how to
explain beyond that.
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
5:21 p.m.
Hey Jeanette,
2018-01-06 0:48 GMT+01:00 Jeanette C. <julien(a)mail.upb.de>de>:
Hey hey,
a raunchy, if slightly dated, song to get the year started:
http://juliencoder.de/nama/not_that_innocent-instrumental.mp3
http://juliencoder.de/nama/not_that_innocent-instrumental.ogg
This song has been around for a while, and yet is still unfinished. I just
can't perform the vocals for it. This is the second song from the project
"The essence of". The intention is to condense and extract all kinds of
elements from certain songs and mix them into small "essential" songs,
capturing the heart and soul of particular subgenres or song types. This is
a very personal undertaking.
Though, I believe that this piece is a very loud and obvious curtsey. I
leave it to you to find out at whose shrine I've been revelling. :)
This is awesome, if you want to produce swedish hit pop that is :D The
ghost of Denniz Pop would be pleased.
The only part that didn't really fit (to me) is the pad intro, though maybe
it's just lacking a vocal arrangement.
Cool stuff!
Robert
9:39 p.m.
Hi Jeanette,
Very impressive, Loved it!! Great use of saturation and filtering...
best of 2018 to you :)
Glen
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Subject:[LAU] [Music]: Not That Innocent (instrumental)
Hey hey,
a raunchy, if slightly dated, song to get the year started:
http://juliencoder.de/nama/not_that_innocent-instrumental.mp3
http://juliencoder.de/nama/not_that_innocent-instrumental.ogg
This song has been around for a while, and yet is still unfinished. I
just
can't perform the vocals for it. This is the second song from the
project "The
essence of". The intention is to condense and extract all kinds of
elements
from certain songs and mix them into small "essential" songs,
capturing the
heart and soul of particular subgenres or song types. This is a very
personal
undertaking.
Though, I believe that this piece is a very loud and obvious curtsey.
I leave
it to you to find out at whose shrine I've been revelling. :)
For the techs: used synths included fluidsynth (electric bass),
LinuxSampler
(Rhodes, FX), Yoshimi (one choir) and Ecasound/Nama/Csound for
sampling and
processing the FX. It got really physical. :) The hardware wouldn't
be of
particular interest here, unless anyone is curious,...
Recording: Midish for all MIDI tracks (all except one instrument),
Nama for
recording, processing, mixing and mastering and lots of LADSPA/LV2
effects,
including - but not limited to -: TAP plugins (limiter, stereo
echo/delay,
- possibly some tube saturation), Invada (compressor), FIL plugin
(Fons Adriaensen's parametric 4-band EQ), G2Reverb, CAPS (chorus,
plate
reverb, probably amp simulation) and lots of GLAME high- and lowpass
filtering. :)
I hope you enjoy and look forward to any feedback.
Best wishes,
Jeanette
--------
* website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound
* SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c
And when you say those words
It's the sweetest thing I've ever heard <3
(Britney Spears)
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12:22 p.m.
Hey hey,
thank you all for your very positive feedback. Thorsten, I liked the imagery
you conjured up. :)
Joel, all this wouldn't have been possible without your great software and the
constant support you ofer, adding new features as they become apparently
required.
Will, hm I can think why you'd talk about rigidity, perhaps it's the same
quality that I'd describe as tightness. If so, then that was certainly
intended as an integral part and I am glad that it shines through, so thanks
for putting your finger on it, even if you aren't a fan. :)
Again thanks for the feedback (all of it), it's very much appreciated.
Best wishes,
Jeanette
--------
* website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound
* SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c
Say hello to the girl that I am! <3
(Britney Spears)
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