On 07/03/15 06:50, Ralf Mardorf wrote: perhaps the solution for you is a more traditional DIY setup, rather than pick what someone else has done and work with that, just like you probably did 10 years ago ... it is more work to DIY, so many hope to skip that work but spend ages hopping from distro to distro instead. A more unix-like setup using init is still very feasible based on debian, and it looks like debvuan may well maintain GNU/linux into the future, as the debian packages move more and more to dependencies on a bloated desktop with systemd etc. https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/home Linux, as the kernel, is running more and more machines .... but the main desktop distributions are trying to be low-rent microsoft clones with opaque configuration beyond the basic choices offered via GUIs, and fairly regular system crashes just to help the ex windows users feel at home. Unfortunately they seem to have become dominant in debian, and that means almost everywhere downstream of them (or redhat, suse etc which have already gone that way) ... but it is the GNU part that you are speaking of here, so stick with that ... and accept it is never going to be fully prepackaged, off-the-shelf plug and play. Simon

On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 12:44:16 +0800, Tim Blechmann wrote: If you think that my comment is unfriendly, than you better shouldn't read what Linus Torvalds has written about Kay Sievers :D. Assumed you should think that Linus Torvalds misbehaved, than Linux perhaps isn't the kernel you should use. Btw. how do you call the behaviour of e.g. Kay Sievers? What's wrong with calling him and people with a same disrespectful attitude an idiot? And what has that got to do with homophobia and death threads?