15 Jul
2009
15 Jul
'09
4:45 a.m.
Hi there,
Here is my new film -
"This is Art.." A nine minute rollercoaster ride through the great museums of
Paris.
Streaming on Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/5586288
Streaming on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jEu3uWAdcg&feature=player_profilepage
And for better quality....
Free .ogg download: http://www.longforest.com/video/art_3.ogg
Free ..mp4 download: http://www.longforest.com/video/art_3.mp4
Music done with Freewheeling, Fluidsynth, Hexter, WhySynth, and Phasex.
Edited with Cinelerra.
Cheers,
Norv
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15 Jul
15 Jul
8:36 a.m.
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:45:21 -0700 (PDT)
Norval Watson <norv2001(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Hi there,
Here is my new film -
"This is Art.." A nine minute rollercoaster ride through the great
museums of Paris.
Streaming on Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/5586288
Streaming on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jEu3uWAdcg&feature=player_profilepage
And for better quality.... Free .ogg download:
http://www.longforest.com/video/art_3.ogg Free ..mp4 download:
http://www.longforest.com/video/art_3.mp4
Music done with Freewheeling, Fluidsynth, Hexter, WhySynth, and
Phasex. Edited with Cinelerra.
Cheers,
Norv
Quite cool, thanks for sharing this.
I'm kind of surprised that you are allowed to take pictures and film
there. It's really kind of a rollercoaster ride.
9:59 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [LAU] New film: This is Art..
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:45:21 -0700 (PDT)
Norval Watson wrote:
I was also surprised that we were able to film and photograph 95% of the exhibits.
Flash photography is officially forbidden but there were flashes going off everywhere and
the attendants didn't seem to mind.
The artists working in the museums copying great masters usually had a sign requesting
"No photography please".
The
contemporary artists whose works we filmed would probably raise
copyright issues if I "went commercial" with a film like this.
I shot the clips at 10fps and they are presented at 25fps, contributing to the
rollercoaster ride effect.
I'm glad you enjoyed the film, thank you for your comments!
Norv
PS: I got so excited that I finally worked out how to reply to am email using > marks
that I forgot to reply to the list. Sorry.
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Hi there,
Here is my new film -
"This is Art.." A nine minute rollercoaster ride through the great
museums of Paris.
Streaming on Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/5586288
Streaming on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jEu3uWAdcg&feature=player_profilepage
And for better quality.... Free .ogg download:
http://www.longforest.com/video/art_3.ogg Free ..mp4 download:
http://www.longforest.com/video/art_3.mp4
Music done with Freewheeling, Fluidsynth, Hexter, WhySynth, and
Phasex. Edited with Cinelerra.
Cheers,
Norv
Quite cool, thanks for sharing this.
I'm kind of surprised that you are allowed to take pictures and film
there. It's really kind of a rollercoaster ride. 
16 Jul
16 Jul
10:14 p.m.
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From: Simon Wise <simonzwise(a)gmail.com>
To: Norval Watson <norv2001(a)yahoo.com.au>
Cc: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
Sent: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009 10:35:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LAU] New film: This is Art..
Norval Watson wrote:
I have very little understanding of copyright law but I thought it might be OK to use
stuff if the artist/author had been dead for 50 years or more? Maybe the museums could
claim copyright on the picture frames? ;)
Norv
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The
contemporary artists whose works we filmed would probably raise
copyright issues if I "went commercial" with a film like this.
and possibly the museums would also, over those and the older works!
Simon 
17 Jul
17 Jul
5:37 p.m.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 05:14:17PM -0700, Norval Watson wrote:
I have very little understanding of copyright law but
I thought it
might be OK to use stuff if the artist/author had been dead for 50
years or more? Maybe the museums could claim copyright on the picture
frames? ;)
Norv
It's not copyright, there are other laws. Quoting Wikipedia:
"Particularly in relation to photographers a number of other
considerations may also restrict your right to take or publish
photographs. For example a photograph of a person may infringe their
right to privacy. Similarly you may not have the right to take
photographs in non-public locations. These restrictions are often
mistakenly referred to as copyright infringements when in fact other
laws apply."
Those laws are not universal, they change from one country to another. It
is usually forbiden on many european countries to publish photos taken on
non-public locations unless a permission is previously granted. Sometimes
taking photos of public locations is also forbiden, and the laws can be
quite complex and boring, see example:
http://4020.net/words/photorights.php
19 Jul
19 Jul
3:16 a.m.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:37:12PM +0200, Roberto Gordo Saez wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 05:14:17PM -0700, Norval
Watson wrote:
And they can be a huge problem.
I have some fantastic footage of a band I've worked with, shot at a local club, but
the owners of the club and the videographer won't let me post it anywhere or otherwise
use it for promotional purposes or for sale, because there may be shots of people in the
audience whose images we don't have written permission to use. They're worried
about lawsuits and have apparently been bitten by this before.
So, to clear the rights to use it, someone needs to go through it frame by frame and edit
out or get clearance from every audience member who might appear, which none of us have
time to do.
Actually, they already did that editing on some of it, cutting out a few milliseconds here
and there of music. Not too noticeable until I tried to sync up my clean Zoom audio to it,
and found it going out of sync constantly because of the guts.
-ken
I have very little understanding of copyright law
but I thought it
might be OK to use stuff if the artist/author had been dead for 50
years or more? Maybe the museums could claim copyright on the picture
frames? ;)
Norv
It's not copyright, there are other laws. Quoting Wikipedia:
"Particularly in relation to photographers a number of other
considerations may also restrict your right to take or publish
photographs. For example a photograph of a person may infringe their
right to privacy. Similarly you may not have the right to take
photographs in non-public locations. These restrictions are often
mistakenly referred to as copyright infringements when in fact other
laws apply."
Those laws are not universal, they change from one country to another. It
is usually forbiden on many european countries to publish photos taken on
non-public locations unless a permission is previously granted. Sometimes
taking photos of public locations is also forbiden, and the laws can be
quite complex and boring, see example:
http://4020.net/words/photorights.php 
17 Jul
17 Jul
7:40 a.m.
On 15/07/2009, Norval Watson <norv2001(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Hi there,
Here is my new film -
"This is Art.." A nine minute rollercoaster ride through the great museums
of Paris.
Free .ogg download:
http://www.longforest.com/video/art_3.ogg
Today's discovery: if you click on a .ogg in Firefox 3.5, expecting a
download box to pop up, you get a new tab and a player instead. I'm
not sure whether to be all "Cool! Firefox has media skills!" or
"Naughty fox! that's not what I wanted"...
8:19 a.m.
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:40:28 +0100
Gwenhwyfaer <gwenhwyfaer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/07/2009, Norval Watson
<norv2001(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Imho it's cool, except:
1) It's sadly not part of the html5 standard so far (apple didn't like
it)
2) I don't know how to tell firefox to use jack for audio.
Regards,
Philipp
Hi there,
Here is my new film -
"This is Art.." A nine minute rollercoaster ride through the great
museums of Paris.
Free .ogg download:
http://www.longforest.com/video/art_3.ogg
Today's discovery: if you click on a .ogg in Firefox 3.5, expecting a
download box to pop up, you get a new tab and a player instead. I'm
not sure whether to be all "Cool! Firefox has media skills!" or
"Naughty fox! that's not what I wanted"...
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8:34 a.m.
Imho it's cool, except:
1) It's sadly not part of the html5 standard so far (apple didn't like
it)
2) I don't know how to tell firefox to use jack for audio.
There's some info in the thread
"[LAU] Wine + Firefox + Flash == No Audio with ALSA"
Haven't tried it myself but apparently it is possible
/Robert
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