On 04/20/2014 08:58 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I thought you only needed either a2jmidid or -Xalsarawmidi but not both? Jeremy

On 20 April 2014 at 7:54, "F. Silvain" &lt;silvain(a)freeshell.de&gt; wrote: The Mackie above is a control surface. I want to use it with Ardour. Here are some instructions for that. The 1st link references the 2nd, which references the 3rd. http://manual.ardour.org/using-control-surfaces/devices-using-mackielogic-c… http://manual.ardour.org/using-control-surfaces/devices-using-mackielogic-c… http://manual.ardour.org/setting-up-your-system/setting-up-midi/midi-on-lin… That last link says to "uncheck the Misc > Enable ALSA Sequencer support" which is the same thing as avoiding "-Xseq". After going through that, and going with "a2jmidid -e" then my Behringer BCF2000 control surface worked just fine. But, the Mackie has no USB port, only MIDI ports, and I have not been able to get anything Linux to talk to it. See my above Ardour <--> MIDI <--> Mackie question. Thanks... -- Kevin

On 21 April 2014 at 2:30, &lt;gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com&gt; wrote: Not yet. I don't own one. If a USB<>MIDI device is the correct way to get MIDI hardware communication to work, then I'll get such a unit. But, I don't want to buy one for troubleshooting, if it's not needed. Is it generally agreed that a USB<>MIDI unit is needed? The last time I did this I used a Soundblaster card which had a game/MIDI port and that worked fine to communicate over MIDI. Now I have a Delta 1010 with MIDI ports. But, that's the only MIDI connected within my computer. I haven't been able to get that to work for me. So far, nobody suggested that this shouldn't work, nor how to get it to work, if it's supposed to work. Thanks... -- Kevin

On 21 April 2014 at 16:35, rob &lt;rob(a)rektau.ukfsn.org&gt; wrote: Dir Device Name IO hw:1,0 M Audio Delta 1010 MIDI IO hw:3,0,0 BCF2000 MIDI 1 IO hw:3,0,1 BCF2000 MIDI 2 This is with my Delta 1010 turned on, but nothing connected to its MIDI ports. I also have my BCF2000 on, and MIDI cables running between it and my Mackie MCU. BCF MIDI out/thru to MCU in, and BCF in to MCU out. In this configuration the MCU can control Ardour. But, Ardour can not control the MCU. This is running behind ardour 10319 ? SLsl 0:04 /bin/jackd -dalsa -r48000 -p1024 -n2 -D -Chw:1 -Phw:1 10333 pts/5 SLl 0:02 a2jmidid -e At this point I'm thinking - MIDI ports on the Delta 1010 don't work as I would expect. Brent also said this about his 1010. - The BCF2000 functions as a unidirectional MIDI host, like a partial USB<>MIDI translator. - A real USB<>MIDI translator, e.g. Midisport NxN should help. I'll report back after my next steps. Thanks.... -- Kevin

On 22 April 2014 at 21:23, Simon Wise &lt;simonzwise(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Simon's reply was exactly right. I found a "User's Manual" with title "B-CONTROL > Fader BCF2000 B-CONTROL > Rotary BCR2000" on line as a file named bcf2000_p0246_m_en.pdf In that I discovered how to set my BCF2000 to function as a UCB<>MIDI interface. First I had to set my BCF back from LC (Logic Control) mode to bC (B-CONTROL) mode. Here are the steps: - power off the BCF, if not already off - hold down the button just under the leftmost rotary knob - turn on the power - after the software version number displays, notice the mode is "bC" - release the button The BCF2000 can now be programmed into USB MIDI mode U-3. Here are the steps: - hold down the EDIT key - press the STORE key - release both keys - rotate the leftmost knob until "U-3" displays - press the EXIT key Now the BCF2000 functions as a single USB<>MIDI interface. amidi -l reports Dir Device Name IO hw:1,0 M Audio Delta 1010 MIDI IO hw:3,0,0 BCF2000 MIDI 1 IO hw:3,0,1 BCF2000 MIDI 2 O hw:3,0,2 BCF2000 MIDI 3 Relevant programs I'm running are: 1259 ? SLl 0:01 /usr/bin/qjackctl 1266 ? SLl 0:05 /opt/Ardour_x86_64-3.5.357-dbg/bin/ardour-3.5.357 24167 ? SLsl 0:10 /bin/jackd -dalsa -r48000 -p1024 -n2 -D -Chw:1 -Phw:1 24180 ? SLl 0:02 a2jmidid -e In Qjackctl's Connections window, on the MIDI tab, I've connected ardour (mackie control out) <> a2j (BCF2000 MIDI 3) ardour (mackie control in) <> a2j (BCF2000 MIDI 2) Now my Mackie Control Universal surface controls ardour and changes in ardour's GUI are reflected on the MCU. Sliders work, the jog wheel works, the clocks stay in sync, transport controls work. Basically, it all seems fine. Thanks to all for the help!!! -- Kevin

On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, Kevin Cosgrove wrote: No, your delta should work and if it does then there is no SW difference between the delta and the usbmidi once you get to the ALSA midi ports. mine is an ensoniq (es1370).. same idea. Works with my kybd just fine, but I don't have control surfaces. It should work just fine. I am assuming you see the ports in the jack midi ports(under a2j)... I don't know if you use qjackctl or patchage or other gui for this or if you do it all CL, but I use qjackctl. a2jmidid should show up in the jack midi panel and when expanded should show your 1010 midi ports. Quick test to make sure data goes through is to use jack-keyboard midi_out connected to your 1010 playback within a2j... run a midi cable from the 1010 midi out to the 1010 midi in... start a softsynth (hexter or qsynth...or which ever you are most comfortable with and know you can get sound from). and connect a2j/1010capture to the softsynth. If jack-keyboard can play the softsynth, then the hardware is working and a2j is set up right. Do check that you can change patches/sustain works, etc. I figured you had already done a similar test because of what seemed to be working from your other hw. midi is midi pretty much. -- Len Ovens www.ovenwerks.net

On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, Kevin Cosgrove wrote: Not always -- I now have a RME Multiface II, and the built in Midi port on that works fine in Alsa and Jack Midi. However, before that, I had a Delta 1010, and I was never able to get the built in Midi port to pass data uncorrupted. Others may not have had the same experience, but at least for me, I found that while the Delta 1010 worked fine for audio, the Midi function seems to be broken (driver bug?). I also have an Edirol 3in/3out USB Midi interface that works great. So in summary, my experiences: Compliant USB interfaces: OK RME Multiface II: OK Delta 1010: Midi doesn't work in Linux I've tried SoundBlaster Midi too, and I can say it works in just about any OS...though obviously they don't make very good recording cards.

On 2014-04-21 20:10, Len Ovens wrote: I have a 1010 on a debian machine and a 1010LT on an ubuntu setup. They seem to work fine on debian-squeeze and ubuntu-precise as far as audio and MIDI go. Martin

Am Dienstag, 22. April 2014, 07:07:25 schrieb david: I have a 1010LT since 10 years or so, and the ALSA drivers always worked for me, both MIDI and audio-wise. I usually have my Korg Wavestation A/D connected to the Delta's MIDI in/out, and it works for "normal" data as well as big sysex transfers, and MIDI clock messages. Just my 2c, Edgar