[linux-audio-user] Paradoxon in starting lashd/jackd automaticly (was: Re: GLASHCtl 0.2)
28 Jun
2006
28 Jun
'06
6:27 a.m.
2006/6/27, David Baron <d_baron(a)012.net.il>il>:
Isn't that cool? There s a new mechanism which allows starting servers
like jackd or lashd if they are needed. It is meant to help beginners
who don't know how to automate via scripts and don't know about all
the different dependencies of the apps and servers.
And the only way to make that work is to set a variable either on the
console or by editing hidden files in your file-manager. And it
involves knowing about shell-scripts.
You just gotta love that!
Arnold
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where i can
find out how to set the "LASH_START_SERVER" variable?
type something
like
export LASH_START_SERVER=1
or place in /etc/profile or such. 
28 Jun
28 Jun
6:56 a.m.
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:27:31AM +0200, Arnold Krille wrote:
Isn't that cool? There s a new mechanism which allows starting servers
like jackd or lashd if they are needed. It is meant to help beginners
who don't know how to automate via scripts and don't know about all
the different dependencies of the apps and servers.
And the only way to make that work is to set a variable either on the
console or by editing hidden files in your file-manager. And it
involves knowing about shell-scripts.
You just gotta love that!
Well, distributions could take care of that.
But ... do you have any suggestion on how to solve this problem otherwise?
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Thorsten Wilms
9:56 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Paradoxon in starting lashd/jackd automaticly (was: Re: GLASHCtl 0.2)
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 10:56 +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:27:31AM +0200, Arnold
Krille wrote:
Autostarting by default, unless *_NO_START_SERVER is set?
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Isn't that cool? There s a new mechanism which allows starting servers
like jackd or lashd if they are needed. It is meant to help beginners
who don't know how to automate via scripts and don't know about all
the different dependencies of the apps and servers.
And the only way to make that work is to set a variable either on the
console or by editing hidden files in your file-manager. And it
involves knowing about shell-scripts.
You just gotta love that!
Well, distributions could take care of that.
But ... do you have any suggestion on how to solve this problem otherwise?
10:19 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Paradoxon in starting lashd/jackd automaticly (was: Re: GLASHCtl 0.2)
2006/6/28, Thorsten Wilms <t_w_(a)freenet.de>de>:
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:27:31AM +0200, Arnold
Krille wrote:
Then the packages should already contain a simple snippet to include
into /etc/profile. Distributions will use it for their various ways to
generate /etc/profile...
Isn't that cool? There s a new mechanism
which allows starting servers
like jackd or lashd if they are needed. It is meant to help beginners
who don't know how to automate via scripts and don't know about all
the different dependencies of the apps and servers.
And the only way to make that work is to set a variable either on the
console or by editing hidden files in your file-manager. And it
involves knowing about shell-scripts.
You just gotta love that!
Well, distributions could take care of that. But ... do you have any suggestion on how to solve
this problem otherwise?
If it is a server that can and should be startet without any
additional arguments, than just start it by default.
If it is good to have certain parameters set (like with jackd) than
try the autostarting if a standard-config is available (via a file)
but don't start it if not. And let there be some ways to define the
standard-config by a gui-only way.
Depending on ENV-Variables is a bad thing imho, because either the
user has to deal with it, which is bad for beginners or the
distribution has to deal with it system-wide, wich is bad for pro's...
Have a nice day,
Arnold
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verhindern könnte, würde ich mir noch heute einen Stapel Brenner und
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10:24 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Paradoxon in starting lashd/jackd automaticly (was: Re: GLASHCtl 0.2)
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 14:19 +0200, Arnold Krille wrote:
Depending on ENV-Variables is a bad thing imho,
because either the
user has to deal with it, which is bad for beginners or the
distribution has to deal with it system-wide, wich is bad for pro's...
You can override environment variables from /etc/profile in your
own .bashrc.
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10:35 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Paradoxon in starting lashd/jackd automaticly (was: Re: GLASHCtl 0.2)
2006/6/28, Lars Luthman <lars.luthman(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 14:19 +0200, Arnold Krille
wrote:
Okay, there are different meanings of a pro:
A) The professional linux-user. For him its no problem to set (or
unset) a variable in .profile/.bashrc/.<etc>
B) The professional musician. Probably switching from Windows or Mac
to Linux. You can explain the dependencies of jack/etc to him and he
will understand it and make use of it. But if it comes to
non-gui-tools and commandline-interfaces and ENV-variables he switches
right back to his old proprietary system...
C) There are certainly many more pro's, but these are the ones
on-topic for LA[DU]...
Arnold
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Wenn man mit Raubkopien Bands wie Brosis oder Britney Spears wirklich
verhindern könnte, würde ich mir noch heute einen Stapel Brenner und
einen Sack Rohlinge kaufen.
Depending on ENV-Variables is a bad thing imho,
because either the
user has to deal with it, which is bad for beginners or the
distribution has to deal with it system-wide, wich is bad for pro's...
You can
override environment variables from /etc/profile in your
own .bashrc.
9:55 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Paradoxon in starting lashd/jackd automaticly (was: Re: GLASHCtl 0.2)
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 10:27 +0200, Arnold Krille wrote:
2006/6/27, David Baron <d_baron(a)012.net.il>il>:
Isn't that cool? There s a new mechanism which allows starting servers
like jackd or lashd if they are needed. It is meant to help beginners
who don't know how to automate via scripts and don't know about all
the different dependencies of the apps and servers.
And the only way to make that work is to set a variable either on the
console or by editing hidden files in your file-manager. And it
involves knowing about shell-scripts.
You just gotta love that!
The LASH_START_SERVER thing was meant to help _me_ not have to start
lashd manually or have it running all the time from boot. Helping
beginners is a side effect.
I'm all for making autostarting all necessary daemons the default
behaviour though.
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where i
can find out how to set the "LASH_START_SERVER" variable?
type something
like
export LASH_START_SERVER=1
or place in /etc/profile or such.
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