17 May
2011
17 May
'11
10:41 a.m.
Hi list
Anyone who has build drum triggers themselves ?
I just ordered some piezo transducers to build my own triggers, but your
experiences is most welcome regarding material used to encapsulate
transducers, rubber, foam rubber, how thick the size, and so on.
I planned to build it up on some angel bracket inside the drum shell and
mount it on a lug screw so that the trigger will be placed underneath
the drumhead near the rim, don't know if thats good or bad, and if a rim
shoot would trigger too, of cause I don't want that to happen on my
snare, for which I plan to build a separate rim shoot trigger too.
Hope someone will share their experiences :)
/Sv-e
17 May
17 May
10:51 a.m.
----- "Svend-Erik K Madsen" <sv-e(a)sv-e.dk> wrote:
Hi list
Anyone who has build drum triggers themselves ?
http://ganglion.me/synpad/
3:18 p.m.
On 17/05/11 09:41, Svend-Erik K Madsen wrote:
Hi list
Anyone who has build drum triggers themselves ?
I just ordered some piezo transducers to build my own triggers, but
your experiences is most welcome regarding material used to
encapsulate transducers, rubber, foam rubber, how thick the size, and
so on.
I planned to build it up on some angel bracket inside the drum shell
and mount it on a lug screw so that the trigger will be placed
underneath the drumhead near the rim, don't know if thats good or bad,
and if a rim shoot would trigger too, of cause I don't want that to
happen on my snare, for which I plan to build a separate rim shoot
trigger too.
Hope someone will share their experiences :)
Cedric Roux has already pasted the link, but I've done some stuff like
this - I built a midi drum trigger that is capable of telling where
you've hit it as well as how hard, so you can morph the sound between
different spots on the pad. This uses 4 piezo sensors on an aluminium
sheet. All the details of how I built it and the software to drive it
are here:
http://highfellow.org/synpad/ (N.B. that this is my new domain -
ganglion.me still points there but won't do forever)
If you have any questions, just ask.
andy baxter
3:37 p.m.
Den 17-05-2011 15:18, andy baxter skrev:
On 17/05/11 09:41, Svend-Erik K Madsen wrote:
Hi
Thanks a lot, I'm looking at it, but actually I'm aiming for building a
trigger like the one's you can by at DDrum ect. and the trigger should
fit in at an acoustic drum without braking anything. I plan to use an
ordinary drum brain like Hydrogen and a midi trigger io.
/Sv-e
Hi list
Anyone who has build drum triggers themselves ?
I just ordered some piezo transducers to build my own triggers, but
your experiences is most welcome regarding material used to
encapsulate transducers, rubber, foam rubber, how thick the size, and
so on.
I planned to build it up on some angel bracket inside the drum shell
and mount it on a lug screw so that the trigger will be placed
underneath the drumhead near the rim, don't know if thats good or
bad, and if a rim shoot would trigger too, of cause I don't want that
to happen on my snare, for which I plan to build a separate rim shoot
trigger too.
Hope someone will share their experiences :)
Cedric Roux has already pasted the link, but I've done some stuff like
this - I built a midi drum trigger that is capable of telling where
you've hit it as well as how hard, so you can morph the sound between
different spots on the pad. This uses 4 piezo sensors on an aluminium
sheet. All the details of how I built it and the software to drive it
are here:
http://highfellow.org/synpad/ (N.B. that this is my new domain -
ganglion.me still points there but won't do forever)
If you have any questions, just ask.
andy baxter
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4:23 p.m.
On 17/05/11 14:37, Svend-Erik K Madsen wrote:
Thanks a lot, I'm looking at it, but actually I'm aiming for building
a trigger like the one's you can by at DDrum ect. and the trigger
should fit in at an acoustic drum without braking anything. I plan to
use an ordinary drum brain like Hydrogen and a midi trigger io.
Maybe use an arduino and send out the strikes as a hardware midi stream?
There are instructions on the arduino.cc site somewhere on how to send
midi. Or else send the data over usb and convert to alsa midi in the
computer. There is a lot of stuff like this on instructables.com and
youtube.
andy
5:11 p.m.
Den 17-05-2011 16:23, andy baxter skrev:
Maybe use an arduino and send out the strikes as a hardware midi
stream? There are instructions on the arduino.cc site somewhere on how
to send midi. Or else send the data over usb and convert to alsa midi
in the computer. There is a lot of stuff like this on
instructables.com and youtube.
andy
Arduino looks totally cool, gonna dig into that I think, thanks :)
/Sv-e
7:10 p.m.
On Tue, 17 May 2011 10:41:57 +0200
Svend-Erik K Madsen <sv-e(a)sv-e.dk> wrote:
Hi list
Anyone who has build drum triggers themselves ?
I just ordered some piezo transducers to build my own triggers, but
your experiences is most welcome regarding material used to
encapsulate transducers, rubber, foam rubber, how thick the size, and
so on.
I planned to build it up on some angel bracket inside the drum shell
and mount it on a lug screw so that the trigger will be placed
underneath the drumhead near the rim, don't know if thats good or
bad, and if a rim shoot would trigger too, of cause I don't want that
to happen on my snare, for which I plan to build a separate rim shoot
trigger too.
Hope someone will share their experiences :)
/Sv-e
_____
Hi, there is this open source project called megadrum
http://www.megadrum.info/
which gives you schematics and instructions to build a drum machine,
i.e. something you feed triggers into and which outputs MIDI. You can
even order kits or preassembled units.
I know it's not exactly what you were asking for but since Arduino came
in the discussion (which would, I suppose, have the same role as the
megadrum in such a project) you might want to look into it. I'm
definitely no expert but I think making the megadrum, although more
laborious, would have it's advantages over using an arduino. Well,
actually I even tried building such a thing with arduino some time ago,
and certainly I can tell you that it's not that easy to accurately
detect how hard you hit the piezo; the megadrum supposedly does this
good. Also the megadrum seems to have quite a community.
Maybe on the site you can even find some info on
building/clamping/placing your own triggers.
BTW there's a similar project called edrum
http://www.edrum.info/
I wouldn't be able to tell you the differences though
HTH
renato
19 May
19 May
12:16 p.m.
Den 17-05-2011 19:10, Renato skrev:
On Tue, 17 May 2011 10:41:57 +0200
Svend-Erik K Madsen<sv-e(a)sv-e.dk> wrote:
Hi
I must admit that I've jumped out in Arduino, and this kinda kit:
http://microdrum.altervista.org/blog/info/
I think it looks exciting and lots of fun.
BTW. I already succeeded building a trigger with an angel bracket, a
piece of rubber-foam "20x30x70 mm", a 27mm piezo transducer and a bit of
glue, and mounted it inside a drum shell, with full contact to a mesh-head.
It generates sound when connected to my sound card's preamp, so I assume
it will do okay for the project.
/Sv-e
Hi list
Anyone who has build drum triggers themselves ?
I just ordered some piezo transducers to build my own triggers, but
your experiences is most welcome regarding material used to
encapsulate transducers, rubber, foam rubber, how thick the size, and
so on.
I planned to build it up on some angel bracket inside the drum shell
and mount it on a lug screw so that the trigger will be placed
underneath the drumhead near the rim, don't know if thats good or
bad, and if a rim shoot would trigger too, of cause I don't want that
to happen on my snare, for which I plan to build a separate rim shoot
trigger too.
Hope someone will share their experiences :)
/Sv-e
_____
Hi, there is this open source project called megadrum
http://www.megadrum.info/
which gives you schematics and instructions to build a drum machine,
i.e. something you feed triggers into and which outputs MIDI. You can
even order kits or preassembled units.
I know it's not exactly what you were asking for but since Arduino came
in the discussion (which would, I suppose, have the same role as the
megadrum in such a project) you might want to look into it. I'm
definitely no expert but I think making the megadrum, although more
laborious, would have it's advantages over using an arduino. Well,
actually I even tried building such a thing with arduino some time ago,
and certainly I can tell you that it's not that easy to accurately
detect how hard you hit the piezo; the megadrum supposedly does this
good. Also the megadrum seems to have quite a community.
Maybe on the site you can even find some info on
building/clamping/placing your own triggers.
BTW there's a similar project called edrum
http://www.edrum.info/
I wouldn't be able to tell you the differences though
HTH
renato
8:20 p.m.
On Thu, 19 May 2011 12:16:28 +0200
Svend-Erik K Madsen <sv-e(a)sv-e.dk> wrote:
Den 17-05-2011 19:10, Renato skrev:
oh, yes it does :) didn't know about it, thanks. It seems quite more
professional than the approach I used - basically this
http://todbot.com/blog/2006/10/29/spooky-arduino-projects-4-and-musical-ard…
wish I knew about it 6 months ago.
cheers
renato
On Tue, 17 May 2011 10:41:57 +0200
Svend-Erik K Madsen<sv-e(a)sv-e.dk> wrote:
Hi
I must admit that I've jumped out in Arduino, and this kinda kit:
http://microdrum.altervista.org/blog/info/
I think it looks exciting and lots of fun. Hi list
Anyone who has build drum triggers themselves ?
I just ordered some piezo transducers to build my own triggers, but
your experiences is most welcome regarding material used to
encapsulate transducers, rubber, foam rubber, how thick the size,
and so on.
I planned to build it up on some angel bracket inside the drum
shell and mount it on a lug screw so that the trigger will be
placed underneath the drumhead near the rim, don't know if thats
good or bad, and if a rim shoot would trigger too, of cause I
don't want that to happen on my snare, for which I plan to build a
separate rim shoot trigger too.
Hope someone will share their experiences :)
/Sv-e
_____
Hi, there is this open source project called megadrum
http://www.megadrum.info/
which gives you schematics and instructions to build a drum machine,
i.e. something you feed triggers into and which outputs MIDI. You
can even order kits or preassembled units.
I know it's not exactly what you were asking for but since Arduino
came in the discussion (which would, I suppose, have the same role
as the megadrum in such a project) you might want to look into it.
I'm definitely no expert but I think making the megadrum, although
more laborious, would have it's advantages over using an arduino.
Well, actually I even tried building such a thing with arduino some
time ago, and certainly I can tell you that it's not that easy to
accurately detect how hard you hit the piezo; the megadrum
supposedly does this good. Also the megadrum seems to have quite a
community.
Maybe on the site you can even find some info on
building/clamping/placing your own triggers.
BTW there's a similar project called edrum
http://www.edrum.info/
I wouldn't be able to tell you the differences though
HTH
renato 
8:41 p.m.
At Noisebridge, in San Francisco, some guys showed up
to demonstrate their use of piezos for which they'd used
soda (or beer) bottle caps and some kind of potting
compound; they claimed good fidelity.
On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 20:20 +0200, Renato wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2011 12:16:28 +0200
Svend-Erik K Madsen <sv-e(a)sv-e.dk> wrote:
Den 17-05-2011 19:10, Renato skrev:
oh, yes it does :) didn't know about it, thanks. It seems quite more
professional than the approach I used - basically this
http://todbot.com/blog/2006/10/29/spooky-arduino-projects-4-and-musical-ard…
wish I knew about it 6 months ago.
cheers
renato
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On Tue, 17 May 2011 10:41:57 +0200
Svend-Erik K Madsen<sv-e(a)sv-e.dk> wrote:
Hi
I must admit that I've jumped out in Arduino, and this kinda kit:
http://microdrum.altervista.org/blog/info/
I think it looks exciting and lots of fun. Hi list
Anyone who has build drum triggers themselves ?
I just ordered some piezo transducers to build my own triggers, but
your experiences is most welcome regarding material used to
encapsulate transducers, rubber, foam rubber, how thick the size,
and so on.
I planned to build it up on some angel bracket inside the drum
shell and mount it on a lug screw so that the trigger will be
placed underneath the drumhead near the rim, don't know if thats
good or bad, and if a rim shoot would trigger too, of cause I
don't want that to happen on my snare, for which I plan to build a
separate rim shoot trigger too.
Hope someone will share their experiences :)
/Sv-e
_____
Hi, there is this open source project called megadrum
http://www.megadrum.info/
which gives you schematics and instructions to build a drum machine,
i.e. something you feed triggers into and which outputs MIDI. You
can even order kits or preassembled units.
I know it's not exactly what you were asking for but since Arduino
came in the discussion (which would, I suppose, have the same role
as the megadrum in such a project) you might want to look into it.
I'm definitely no expert but I think making the megadrum, although
more laborious, would have it's advantages over using an arduino.
Well, actually I even tried building such a thing with arduino some
time ago, and certainly I can tell you that it's not that easy to
accurately detect how hard you hit the piezo; the megadrum
supposedly does this good. Also the megadrum seems to have quite a
community.
Maybe on the site you can even find some info on
building/clamping/placing your own triggers.
BTW there's a similar project called edrum
http://www.edrum.info/
I wouldn't be able to tell you the differences though
HTH
renato
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