torsdag 12 augusti 2010 14.03.47 skrev Loki Davison: wrote: How did you record it, is it only two tracks or multitrack? It's not very easy to come up with a good answer for you here. :-) It's not very much meaning to suggest adjustmens as the mix sounds like now. A new raw mix please! :-) If possible, you should record the drums one more time. You write that you use the recorderman technnique, wich surprises me a little bit because the kick is so week and sounds more like a tom - I expected more body and room. The HH sound is also a little strange because the sticks' sounds are very dominating. Maybe you should consider to use just one mic and do some experimenting: Go mono on drums and try just one condenser mic right above the kick and listen how the kit sounds sounds. You might very well get a well balanced drum sound that way. That might just do the trick. Experienced engineers do very often adjust the placement before it sounds as good as possible. On the other hand: I like the drums ringing body and that might disapear if you do any changes. Do a little more accurate raw mix first that we (or at least my tinitus infected ears) can listen to again, then it will be slightly easier to come with a little more meaningful suggestions. :-) Jostein

This is a kind of OT (not Linux related) stuff, but the I take the risk to write in this forum anyway: :-) fredag 13 augusti 2010 02.14.40 skrev Loki Davison: ... OK, multitrack, then you _can_ make a new raw mix before asking questions about how to go further. :-) It's still pretty meaningless to suggest anything about compressing, processing, and all other stuff before I can hear some better balance, in a nutshell: Three Weeks In Albania: Way to load guitar, too little bass. Frustration: To low vocal, to load guitar. For the third time: A new raw mix please! :-) Two cardoids and two omnis? Maybe you should continue with Recorderman for the cardoids and add one of the omnis for the kick drum? There are descriptions all over the 'Net and in magazines like SOS on how to mike up drums, but they can only serve as directions. You are the one that must experiment with the room and the equipment you have in order to get best possible results, you are stucked with what you have. Let your ears decide, have faiht in that you'll be better and better. :-) The mics you have are not ideal (not many people can afford that) but you might get wonderful results anyway! from what I can hear: nothing stops you from making good results. The bass must be filtered and EQed in conjuction with the drums. When it interact with the drum kit (and it's kick drum), then we can talk about if it's clean or not or what to do. Normally, you will want to use a highpass filter first (this is probably the single most importanst step) and then compress and then EQ. This order of filtering and processing is common for most instruments. On bass, you will probably HP > 40 Hz, Compress around 5:1 with attack somwhere unde 55 ms (listen and decide) and use a low pass filter for regulating how much fret and string noise you want. You must also leave space for the kick drum (and the kick drum must leave space for the bass) - that's one of the main reasons why you must have a stronger kick drum in your recording. There is really no absolute rights and wrongs here. Anything you do impacts everything. A good idea is to take a walk and get some distance from the recording and then do a raw mix in 10 minutes or so. But how you finally ends up here is based upon testing, experiense and preferences. If you really want specific detailed help and advices, then you must provide the tracks separated and also improve the recording material (better drum balance). This topic is not Linux specific, so you will probably get better help elswhere than here, but it's nice that thing like this shows up here too from time to time :-) If you give your tracks to diffrerent experienced people, you will still get very diverse final mixes, so I just say good luck with your music and have fun. Jostein

El día Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:22:04 +1000, Loki Davison <loki.davison(a)gmail.com> escribía: Much better! Singer's voice has improved a lot, as has the drums and the bass. My only complain (and I'm nitpicking here) are the drums. They seem to overwhelm the rest of the band sometimes. Other than that, great job. -- Roberto Suarez Soto I've got a crimson belly Every single morning

måndag 16 augusti 2010 15.22.04 skrev Loki Davison: Great improvement, everything is loooot better! :-) I don't really wanna come with hints, you will improve a lot just by continuing what you do, just as you've showed compared with the first mix. Well.. you can do some automation on the vocal, her voice (words) disapears in one or two places and maybe you can turn the guitar just a little bit up again. Rember to allways use the hipass filter on every track, that alone make the mix sound clearer. Try > 50 on drums, 40-50 on bass, 80 on guitar possibly 130 on voice, try and test. Remember that hints, meanings on the 'Net and what others are saying are (often subjective) directions, you are the boss! :-) I like the track, just keep on the good working :-) Jostein