Hmm, I use Thunderbird, too, and haven't seen that. But my LAU email isn't my Gmail account. I *have* seen Gmail classify as spam *some* (not all) emails on a different list that goes to my Gmail account. That list is hosted by...Google. Maybe that's related? On April 18, 2022 10:08:51 PM HST, Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton(a)gmail.com> wrote: --- David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com exploring the landscape of god http://dancingtreefrog.com Sent from my Android device with F/LOSS K-9 Mail.

Hello, On 19-04-2022 10:08, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Thanks for bringing this up. I double checked the DNS records and added specific SPF and DMARC records for lists.linuxaudio.org, those were missing. Hope Google is happy now. Best, Jeremy

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 06:26:38PM +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Try logging in to the Gmail web interface, and check: - Does the Gmail web interface show the same emails in your inbox as Thunderbird shows you? - Ditto for spam/junk/trash? - Ditto for any other relevant folders/tags? - Have you set (and perhaps forgotten about) any Gmail filters that might be relevant? - Gmail's recommended IMAP2 (or POP3, if you are using that) configuration: confirm that this is what your Thunderbird instance is using. Also check: - Is your Thunderbird up to date? Does the version you are running have any known bugs causing mail to be lost/hiddden? - Do you have any plugins/settings in Thunderbird that could be causing the issue? - Is your Thunderbird mailstore on a healthy filesystem on a healthy HDD/SSD? Hopefully these checks will locate the issue. In the long run, the sensible solution would probably be to move away from dubious proprietary email providers like Gmail (and Microsoft, etc) to someone a bit more trustworthy, like Posteo.de or RiseUp or (if you want to use your own domain) perhaps Migadu.com or Mailbox.org . Sam

On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 08:28:57AM +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: So, the missing messages are also missing when you access your inbox from the Gmail web interface? I see at least 3 possibilities. Some (LAU) emails are either: - being discarded by Google before they reach your Gmail account; or - being moved/discarded within your Gmail account, but not due to Thunderbird; or - being moved/discarded locally (e.g. within Thunderbird or its local mailstore), and because Thunderbird is syncing its state to your Gmail account on Google's server via IMAP2, the moves/discards are also reflected when you log in to the Gmail web interface. To rule out the third possibility above, you could try leaving Thunderbird, including any background mailbox sync, switched off for a while - perhaps a few weeks. (Likewise any other email clients you may use for your Gmail account.) During that time, you would have to access Gmail solely via the web interface. See if that stops the issue. Did you check the above points? In principle that shouldn't cause deletions. Investigate other potential causes first. Are you using secured IMAP? (If not, there's a (small) risk of corruption in transit - e.g. an MITM. Would be v. weird for an MITM to delete LAU emails, though, so this probably isn't the problem here.) OK Worth checking, if you find time: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=thunderbird https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=MailNews+Core See my remark above about ruling out Thunderbird. These points could be germane, cf. the third possibility mentioned near the top of this email. See my remark above about ruling out Thunderbird. HTH :)