Il 29/09/2016 16:07, Patrick Shirkey ha scritto: Hi Patrick, many thanks for you email and for your help in promoting our project of free music! Thanks! Max -- IM: massimo(a)jabber.fsfe.org - GnuPG Public Key-Id: 0x5D168FC1

One of the keys to social media promotion is when the Search engines associate the media with popularity. Hence if a track doesn't get much of a reception from the core listening base it makes it much less likely that it will make it into search results. It should not be a surprise that some of us in Linux Audio want to promote Linux Audio and #musicmadewithlinux to as wide an audience as possible. There are many good reasons which have nothing to do with money but if someone makes some money from their art created with Linux tools that doesn't make their art any less relevant. No one is forcing you to participate in social media and help people in this community promote their music/art to a wider audience. Your support is probably not going to make much difference by itself. It's a simple numbers game. The more people who actively take the time to comment, like, link, subscribe, tweet, retweet, share AND view the more chance that the search algorithms will give priority to the tracks so that people who are searching for something new will find it. If you like a track don't just listen to it. Take the time to do one or all of the above and you will be helping the artist. It doesn't cost any thing so it's not really a big ask if you are prepared to use social media for your consumption in the first place. If you don't like a track that shouldn't exclude you from offering your support to the artists anyway. Your support might give the artist the motivation to have another go and the result might be awesome. In that case you could add a short comment as constructive feedback. Comments are factored by the search algorithms too. It's a small thing for each listener to do that can make a big difference to the artist. Instead of paying money to consume your media like in the ol days before the interweb, just pay with your metadata. At least when you use your metadata you don't have to make a choice between buying your lunch/coffee/cigarettes and listening to a new track. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd

If you have to ask...* You are relatively new to Linux Audio but it has been a long effort over 20 years to get Linux Audio to the point where it is now. It has been a concerted community effort on many fronts and there are literally thousands of people who have contributed to the overall platform. That Linux Audio has matured to the point where people like yourself are not really concerned about the underlying foundation is a small win but that doesn't mean people like myself will stop or should stop evangelizing for Linux Audio. The recent discussion about the merits of Ableton Link can serve as a case study. It has been suggested (strongly and with real world examples) that we haven't done enough to make the value of JACK and Linux Audio obvious to external "players" in the global music industry. One of many ways that we will increase the perceived value of our platform and tools from the wider industry is through successful artists who represent the tools they are using. Another example is the massive marketing budgets that various industry players use to promote there products. The marketing effort keeps their brand in the periphery. It's true that many Linux people have serious reservations about the music industry in general. Taking it head on that doesn't mean that we agree with the system. IMO, applying our combined expertise/resources to promote Linux Audio and the artists using Linux tools is still a valid use of our collective effort. * Ode to Linux (Audio) ahem (clears throat) How do I love thee, let me count the ways, I love thee to the depth and breadth and height My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight For the ends of Being and ideal Grace. I love thee to the level of everyday's Most quiet need, by sun and candlelight. I love thee freely, as men strive for Right; I love thee purely, as they turn from Praise. I love thee with the passion put to use In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith. I love thee with a love I seemed to lose With my lost saints,—I love thee with the breath, Smiles, tears, of all my life!—and, if God choose, I shall but love thee better after death. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 10:15:41 +0200 "Patrick Shirkey" <pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com> wrote: True. I could only trace back messages of mine in LAU to 2006. I am very sorry as I have forgotten the user name I was using while living in Germany prior to that, when I was building from scratch Linux Systems (LFS, BLFS) as well as Muse and other audio applications. I'm quite certain I posted in LAU at that time. Sorry. To make it short, Linux has provided bread and butter on the table since 2000. I would say yes, this is relatively new. As Shunryu Suzuki (the little Suzuki of the Tassajara Zen center, not the big one) said: "always a beginner !" Interesting. Earlier this year you posted in 'Childrens educational media and youtube promotions' (LAU) "In return I will be happy to do the same for your videos and assist with promoting via the "Linux Music Videos" playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGRkb-jpsg0XYGVkE1zpJzQtwrEGKBYO6 " Then I clicked on the first piece of that page, it turns out to be a quite a bad piece, really. And I say that beyond a question of taste. People can sleep on their keyboards and come up with that. And then the second piece is Mozart with a video that is about correlations between E.T.s and pyramids and the 'facts' supporting that. Which might be taken from the French documentary. Now don't get me wrong, I think there is much more to ancient history and the pyramids and all that that we know, way more. But, this is Linux isn't it ? And then the other pieces do not get much better. Then Phil has put one video, as well as DeViator and recently, John Option. To make it short. In any case, the list of videos is short by itself. Now I can see it coming, it would go like: "Well, it's up to you to make it better ! Post your songs there and help promote Linux ! If everybody would do that it would be great !" But, the only thing with this, is that it does not offer a fertile ground to do so. To state it bluntly, why would I want a piece I made, on which I have spent so many hours composing, articulating, mixing and all that, and putting a part of my heart and soul into it, right beside pieces that can be made while sleeping (and I do not mean to get influence from the world of dreams, but rather to collapse on a keyboard :) more or less ? It is nice to have all the ideology to promote and to contribute, but it also have to be backed up substantially. The time when making C64-like sounds on a new OS developed by a Swedish guy in Finland is long passed. Er, the massive marketing budgets usually bring some results, if the product is good. And even so, there is no need to have massive marketing budgets. So many software companies in the audio realm demonstrate that. OTOH, if what you meant is that because Linux is not so popular then companies do not risk themselves in porting their products to that platform, then this is true. No later that this week I asked Oskari in Finland if the Corona synth could have a Linux counterpart, and the response was that the effort for a result of selling 10 copies does not worth it. I asked mastering engineer Ian Shepperd if the plugin he has designed could have a Linux counter part - not worth the effort. Yes, I would like to have more plugins, more synths and all that for Linux (although my wallet is very happy with the current situation). I was thrilled and still am today at this very hour, of having found the u-he products for Linux. What we can see, in addressing promotion, is that in face of the industry, the promotion of Linux has to be up to the game. A ghost will not do the job. And this goes back to the comment above about having a fertile ground. It takes time and effort and cannot be only a few key strokes to make a web page or some sounds put together and then hoping that 'everybody' will join in and make it BIG ! No. Again, the ideology, the leitmotiv, is obviously good, but the execution is way sub par. Cheers.

Hi Janette! Many, many thanks for your comment and your useful suggestion!! Il 29/09/2016 17:16, J. C. ha scritto: Many thanks!! That's the first time I read about those drums kit, so your suggestion is very useful for us. If you have other kits to suggest please let me know: the only limit we have is that the drumkit have to be published with a free license. In our previous songs we always chose drum kits already included in the Hydrogen project, even if some of those are not so good, only because we ignore the existence of other good kits. Your suggestion have been very useful for us. Many thanks to you! Ciao, Max -- IM: massimo(a)jabber.fsfe.org - OpenPGP Key-Id: 0x5D168FC1

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 07:16:55 -0700 info(a)bandshed.net wrote: "5) If a salamander relied on hydrogen bonds to cling to surfaces, what type of surface would cause the most pr?" Hmmm... Let's try another result from google then: :) "[LAU] Hydrogen --> Linuxsampler+Salamander Drumkit" alexander axeldenstore at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 18:36:50 UTC 2012 Stuzz at bandcamp has made Hydrogen talk to the Linux Sampler in order to use the Salamander kit and in doing so, I think, has preserved the qualities you are describing here. Maybe. Stuzz has posted links to files in his description and they still seem to be available.