25 Oct
2005
25 Oct
'05
2:02 p.m.
Hi. The latest updates on my Debian Sarge/Etch (on the testing repo) are
wanting to remove. Cheesetracker (libsigc++ deps) , Wavemixer, and Seq24. Now
I use, or more precisely, am trying to use Cheesetracker, so don't want to
lose it. All the upgrades appear to be coming from.
deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main
I tried putting this Debian Sarge/Etch install onto the security testing repo,
but it don't want to play. I still have two basic Sarge installs, also on the
same security repo, but aptitude dist-upgrade is only doing minimal upgrades,
and certainly not wanting to remove apps. The ouput of aptitude dist-upgrade
is below, (also tried aptitude upgrade, as sometimes they differ) . Any
comments would be welcome. Nigel.
Reading task descriptions... Done
Get:1 http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/main Packages [130kB]
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Release
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Release
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Release
Get:2 http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/main Release [110B]
Fetched 130kB in 31s (4172B/s)
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
debian:/home/djmons# aptitude dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
ca-certificates libaspell15c2 libedit2 libgksuui1.0-1 libgtkspell0
libnautilus-burn1 libsigc++-1.2-5c2 libssl0.9.8 openssh-client
openssh-server python-gnome2-extras python2.3-gnome2-extras
The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
cheesetracker libgksuui1.0-0 libgtkmm2.0-1c102 libsigc++-1.2-5c102 seq24
wavemixer
The following packages have been kept back:
cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client cupsys-driver-gimpprint foomatic-db
foomatic-db-engine foomatic-db-hpijs foomatic-filters foomatic-gui
gimp-help-common gimp-help-en hpijs libcupsimage2 python-foomatic
python-glade2 python-gnome2 python-gtk2 python2.3-glade2 python2.3-gtk2
python2.3-pyorbit x-window-system-core
The following NEW packages will be installed:
ca-certificates libaspell15c2 libedit2 libgksuui1.0-1 libgtkspell0
libnautilus-burn1 libsigc++-1.2-5c2 libssl0.9.8 openssh-client
openssh-server python-gnome2-extras python2.3-gnome2-extras
The following packages will be REMOVED:
cheesetracker libgksuui1.0-0 libgtkmm2.0-1c102 libsigc++-1.2-5c102 seq24
wavemixer
The following packages will be upgraded:
apt apt-utils aptitude bash bind9-host bsdgames bsdutils console-common
console-tools cpp cxref debianutils desktop-base dnsutils edict fdutils
fftw3 finger fingerd freeglut3 g++ gcc gksu gnome-session gnome-utils
info language-env libacl1 libattr1 libbind9-0 libconsole libcurl3
libdns20 libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-data libglib2.0-dev libgpgme11 libgtk1.2
libgtk1.2-common libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tree-perl libisc9 libisccc0
libisccfg1 liblwres1 libnautilus-extension1 libnews-nntpclient-perl
libnspr4 libnss3 liboaf0 liboil0.3 liborbit2 libpango1.0-0
libpango1.0-common libpcap0.8 libpcre3 libpcre3-dev libperl5.8 libpisock8
libsensors3 libsigc++-1.2-dev libssl-dev libssl0.9.7
libtext-charwidth-perl libtext-iconv-perl libtext-wrapi18n-perl
libtiff-tools libtiff4 libusb-0.1-4 libvte-common libvte4
lm-sensors-2.4.27-2-386 login menu module-init-tools mount mozilla
mozilla-browser mozilla-mailnews mozilla-psm nautilus nautilus-data nmap
oaf openssl passwd perl perl-base perl-modules portmap python-extclass
python2.3-extclass python2.3-gnome2 ssh synaptic telnet telnetd
tetex-base tetex-doc texinfo util-linux wavesurfer wget xcdroast xmms
xpdf xpdf-common xpdf-reader xpdf-utils xscreensaver xscreensaver-gl
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
aptitude-doc-en dbus-1-utils deborphan libgnome2-perl lm-sensors
myspell-en-us nautilus-cd-burner perl-doc unzip x-ttcidfont-conf xli
xloadimage
111 packages upgraded, 12 newly installed, 6 to remove and 21 not upgraded.
Need to get 118MB/118MB of archives. After unpacking 2107kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]
NO. definately NO.
25 Oct
25 Oct
7 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
Nigel Henry wrote:
Hi. The latest updates on my Debian Sarge/Etch (on the
testing repo) are
wanting to remove. Cheesetracker (libsigc++ deps) , Wavemixer, and Seq24. Now
I use, or more precisely, am trying to use Cheesetracker, so don't want to
try aptitude, it explains why it wants to remove packages,
I follow unstable and if it wants to remove something I like I just
don't upgrade for some time (like now they are upgrading c++ and kde so
it's pretty messy), the turmoils are fairly infrequent
another options is to compile and install into /opt/package-version,
sometime I do that when I really like package and it's not available for
debian
you'd probably get a better answer on debian-user mailing list
erik
lose it. All the upgrades appear to be coming from.
deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main
I tried putting this Debian Sarge/Etch install onto the security testing repo,
but it don't want to play. I still have two basic Sarge installs, also on the
same security repo, but aptitude dist-upgrade is only doing minimal upgrades,
and certainly not wanting to remove apps. The ouput of aptitude dist-upgrade
is below, (also tried aptitude upgrade, as sometimes they differ) . Any
comments would be welcome. Nigel.
Reading task descriptions... Done
Get:1 http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/main Packages [130kB]
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Release
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Release
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Release
Get:2 http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/main Release [110B]
Fetched 130kB in 31s (4172B/s)
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
debian:/home/djmons# aptitude dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
ca-certificates libaspell15c2 libedit2 libgksuui1.0-1 libgtkspell0
libnautilus-burn1 libsigc++-1.2-5c2 libssl0.9.8 openssh-client
openssh-server python-gnome2-extras python2.3-gnome2-extras
The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
cheesetracker libgksuui1.0-0 libgtkmm2.0-1c102 libsigc++-1.2-5c102 seq24
wavemixer
The following packages have been kept back:
cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client cupsys-driver-gimpprint foomatic-db
foomatic-db-engine foomatic-db-hpijs foomatic-filters foomatic-gui
gimp-help-common gimp-help-en hpijs libcupsimage2 python-foomatic
python-glade2 python-gnome2 python-gtk2 python2.3-glade2 python2.3-gtk2
python2.3-pyorbit x-window-system-core
The following NEW packages will be installed:
ca-certificates libaspell15c2 libedit2 libgksuui1.0-1 libgtkspell0
libnautilus-burn1 libsigc++-1.2-5c2 libssl0.9.8 openssh-client
openssh-server python-gnome2-extras python2.3-gnome2-extras
The following packages will be REMOVED:
cheesetracker libgksuui1.0-0 libgtkmm2.0-1c102 libsigc++-1.2-5c102 seq24
wavemixer
The following packages will be upgraded:
apt apt-utils aptitude bash bind9-host bsdgames bsdutils console-common
console-tools cpp cxref debianutils desktop-base dnsutils edict fdutils
fftw3 finger fingerd freeglut3 g++ gcc gksu gnome-session gnome-utils
info language-env libacl1 libattr1 libbind9-0 libconsole libcurl3
libdns20 libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-data libglib2.0-dev libgpgme11 libgtk1.2
libgtk1.2-common libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tree-perl libisc9 libisccc0
libisccfg1 liblwres1 libnautilus-extension1 libnews-nntpclient-perl
libnspr4 libnss3 liboaf0 liboil0.3 liborbit2 libpango1.0-0
libpango1.0-common libpcap0.8 libpcre3 libpcre3-dev libperl5.8 libpisock8
libsensors3 libsigc++-1.2-dev libssl-dev libssl0.9.7
libtext-charwidth-perl libtext-iconv-perl libtext-wrapi18n-perl
libtiff-tools libtiff4 libusb-0.1-4 libvte-common libvte4
lm-sensors-2.4.27-2-386 login menu module-init-tools mount mozilla
mozilla-browser mozilla-mailnews mozilla-psm nautilus nautilus-data nmap
oaf openssl passwd perl perl-base perl-modules portmap python-extclass
python2.3-extclass python2.3-gnome2 ssh synaptic telnet telnetd
tetex-base tetex-doc texinfo util-linux wavesurfer wget xcdroast xmms
xpdf xpdf-common xpdf-reader xpdf-utils xscreensaver xscreensaver-gl
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
aptitude-doc-en dbus-1-utils deborphan libgnome2-perl lm-sensors
myspell-en-us nautilus-cd-burner perl-doc unzip x-ttcidfont-conf xli
xloadimage
111 packages upgraded, 12 newly installed, 6 to remove and 21 not upgraded.
Need to get 118MB/118MB of archives. After unpacking 2107kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]
NO. definately NO.
7:15 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 13:59 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
Nigel Henry wrote:
Another option is to let it remove the packages then force install them
afterwards. Not pretty but it often works.
Lee
Hi. The latest updates on my Debian Sarge/Etch
(on the testing repo) are
wanting to remove. Cheesetracker (libsigc++ deps) , Wavemixer, and Seq24. Now
I use, or more precisely, am trying to use Cheesetracker, so don't want to
try aptitude, it explains why it wants to remove packages,
I follow unstable and if it wants to remove something I like I just
don't upgrade for some time (like now they are upgrading c++ and kde so
it's pretty messy), the turmoils are fairly infrequent
8:23 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 21:14, Lee Revell wrote:
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 13:59 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
Hi Lee. I think I'll go for your option. It's not like I don't have
Cheesetracker on another distro, and if it all goes pearshaped, well so be
it.
It does seem like the 3 audio apps it wants to remove are all tied in with
libsigc++-1.2-5c102, which is being upgraded to libsigc++-5c2. Presumably
it's only these 3 audio apps that are being affected by this change. Amsynth
also requires libsigc++ according to my notes on FC2 deps, but looking at
synaptic options/deps for amsynth on my Debian Sarge/Etch install, this says
it's for a different version of libsigc++ (libsigc++0c102).
I'll go for it. It will pass the time. Thanks for the advice. Nigel.
ps: I hope Linux distro's arn't going the way of MS Windows XP & the notorious
app trashing service pack 2. But saying that, at least Debian have the
decency to tell you before you upgrade, which app's they're going to trash.
Nigel Henry wrote:
Another option is to let it remove the packages then force install them
afterwards. Not pretty but it often works.
Lee Hi. The latest updates on my Debian Sarge/Etch
(on the testing repo)
are wanting to remove. Cheesetracker (libsigc++ deps) , Wavemixer, and
Seq24. Now I use, or more precisely, am trying to use Cheesetracker, so
don't want to
try aptitude, it explains why it wants to remove packages,
I follow unstable and if it wants to remove something I like I just
don't upgrade for some time (like now they are upgrading c++ and kde so
it's pretty messy), the turmoils are fairly infrequent 
8:47 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On 10/24/05, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb(a)tiscali.fr> wrote:
ps: I hope Linux distro's arn't going the way of MS Windows XP & the
notorious
app trashing service pack 2. But saying that, at least Debian have the
decency to tell you before you upgrade, which app's they're going to trash.
I don't know what non-Gentoo users feel about the distro (and before
you answer let's start a new religion thread...) but I doubt this sort
of issue will come up this distro.
- Mark - audio fun on Gentoo for the last 2 years
9:34 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 22:47, Mark Knecht wrote:
On 10/24/05, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb(a)tiscali.fr>
wrote:
Hi Mark. It took me quite some months to get Gentoo installed, with some
breaks to get myself together again. It's up and running now Had a problem
getting Gnome and KDE 3.4 to install, but creating a link for libtools named
3.4 and linked to 3.5-2005xxxx fixed that. I've got a few music apps on it,
and am quite satisfied with Gentoo, but, not really for a real newbie to
install. I've had no app trashing problems from Fernando with FC1,2, and 3,
and Slackware 10.0 seems ok too.
Just a bit on the side. I'd really like to get Smack the drum machine on
Gentoo, and see there are some ebuilds for it, but don't know how to work
with them after I've downloaded them. Any hints so that I can use emerge to
install them? Thanks for watching. Nigel.
ps: I hope Linux distro's arn't going the
way of MS Windows XP & the
notorious app trashing service pack 2. But saying that, at least Debian
have the decency to tell you before you upgrade, which app's they're
going to trash.
I don't know what non-Gentoo users feel about the distro (and before
you answer let's start a new religion thread...) but I doubt this sort
of issue will come up this distro.
- Mark - audio fun on Gentoo for the last 2 years
10:12 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On 10/24/05, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb(a)tiscali.fr> wrote:
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 22:47, Mark Knecht wrote:
Conceptually I don't think it's too hard. Here's what I just did with Om
1) Make sure you have a local portage overlay directory defined and
created. Here's my entry in /etc/make.conf:
lightning media-sound # cat /etc/make.conf | grep portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
lightning media-sound #
2) Make a directory for media-sound ebuilds:
mkdir /usr/local/portage/media-sound
2) Make a directory for om
mkdir /usr/local/portage/om
3) Copy the om-ebuild into /usr/local/portage/media-sound/om
4) See if it's recognized:
lightning media-sound # emerge -pv om
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "om" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- media-sound/om-0.2.0 (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
section 2.2 "Software Availability" in the Gentoo Handbook.
lightning media-sound #
5) Since it's masked I add (for test purposes - I wouldn't build it
this way) the ~amd64 keyword:
lightning media-sound # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge -pv om
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild N ] media-libs/liblo-0.22 -doc 429 kB
[ebuild N ] media-sound/om-0.2.0 +alsa -debug -dssi +gtk +ladspa
-lash 0 kB [1]
Total size of downloads: 429 kB
Portage overlays:
[1] /usr/local/portage
lightning media-sound #
I would then decide if the USE flages were good, adjust
/etc/portage/package.use as necessary, and when they were I'd build
it.
Not too difficult.
I got the om ebuild from Gentoo's Bugzilla where these things get submitted:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109194
There is an ebuild submitted for the Om plugins. I did not spot one
for Smack. Maybe you can write one?! ;-)
Let me know if you get it running.
Hope this helps,
Mark
On 10/24/05, Nigel Henry
<cave.dnb(a)tiscali.fr> wrote:
Hi Mark. It took me quite some months to get Gentoo installed, with some
breaks to get myself together again. It's up and running now Had a problem
getting Gnome and KDE 3.4 to install, but creating a link for libtools named
3.4 and linked to 3.5-2005xxxx fixed that. I've got a few music apps on it,
and am quite satisfied with Gentoo, but, not really for a real newbie to
install. I've had no app trashing problems from Fernando with FC1,2, and 3,
and Slackware 10.0 seems ok too.
Just a bit on the side. I'd really like to get Smack the drum machine on
Gentoo, and see there are some ebuilds for it, but don't know how to work
with them after I've downloaded them. Any hints so that I can use emerge to
install them? Thanks for watching. Nigel.
ps: I hope Linux distro's arn't going the
way of MS Windows XP & the
notorious app trashing service pack 2. But saying that, at least Debian
have the decency to tell you before you upgrade, which app's they're
going to trash.
I don't know what non-Gentoo users feel about the distro (and before
you answer let's start a new religion thread...) but I doubt this sort
of issue will come up this distro.
- Mark - audio fun on Gentoo for the last 2 years
26 Oct
26 Oct
5:59 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 00:12, Mark Knecht wrote:
On 10/24/05, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb(a)tiscali.fr>
wrote:
Hi Mark. I've got as far as emerge -pv om. Unfortunately I've lost the syntax
for a one shot unmask for a single package. I need to unmask om which is
being masked by -x86 keyword. Nigel.
BTW there are ebuilds for om, omins, and smack, at a link from
http://smack.berlios.de . I havn't sent the URL for the link, as it's a bit
weird.
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 22:47, Mark Knecht
wrote:
Conceptually I don't think it's too hard. Here's what I just did with Om
1) Make sure you have a local portage overlay directory defined and
created. Here's my entry in /etc/make.conf:
lightning media-sound # cat /etc/make.conf | grep portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
lightning media-sound #
2) Make a directory for media-sound ebuilds:
mkdir /usr/local/portage/media-sound
2) Make a directory for om
mkdir /usr/local/portage/om
3) Copy the om-ebuild into /usr/local/portage/media-sound/om
4) See if it's recognized:
lightning media-sound # emerge -pv om
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "om" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
request: - media-sound/om-0.2.0 (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
section 2.2 "Software Availability" in the Gentoo Handbook.
lightning media-sound #
5) Since it's masked I add (for test purposes - I wouldn't build it
this way) the ~amd64 keyword:
lightning media-sound # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge -pv om
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild N ] media-libs/liblo-0.22 -doc 429 kB
[ebuild N ] media-sound/om-0.2.0 +alsa -debug -dssi +gtk +ladspa
-lash 0 kB [1]
Total size of downloads: 429 kB
Portage overlays:
[1] /usr/local/portage
lightning media-sound #
I would then decide if the USE flages were good, adjust
/etc/portage/package.use as necessary, and when they were I'd build
it.
Not too difficult.
I got the om ebuild from Gentoo's Bugzilla where these things get
submitted:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109194
There is an ebuild submitted for the Om plugins. I did not spot one
for Smack. Maybe you can write one?! ;-)
Let me know if you get it running.
Hope this helps,
Mark On 10/24/05, Nigel Henry
<cave.dnb(a)tiscali.fr> wrote:
Hi Mark. It took me quite some months to get Gentoo installed, with some
breaks to get myself together again. It's up and running now Had a
problem getting Gnome and KDE 3.4 to install, but creating a link for
libtools named 3.4 and linked to 3.5-2005xxxx fixed that. I've got a few
music apps on it, and am quite satisfied with Gentoo, but, not really for
a real newbie to install. I've had no app trashing problems from Fernando
with FC1,2, and 3, and Slackware 10.0 seems ok too.
Just a bit on the side. I'd really like to get Smack the drum machine on
Gentoo, and see there are some ebuilds for it, but don't know how to work
with them after I've downloaded them. Any hints so that I can use emerge
to install them? Thanks for watching. Nigel. ps: I hope Linux distro's arn't going the
way of MS Windows XP & the
notorious app trashing service pack 2. But saying that, at least
Debian have the decency to tell you before you upgrade, which app's
they're going to trash.
I don't know what non-Gentoo users feel about the distro (and before
you answer let's start a new religion thread...) but I doubt this sort
of issue will come up this distro.
- Mark - audio fun on Gentoo for the last 2 years 
6:34 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] gentoo portage overlays
> lightning media-sound #
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge -pv om
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -pv om
But beware this will turn off x86 masking for any dependencies installed
at the same time, which in the case of Smack will unnecesarily upgrade
your Gtk install.
The alternative is to add something like '>=media-sound/om-0.1.1'
to the file /etc/portage/package.keywords
cheers
--
Tim Orford
8:05 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] gentoo portage overlays
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 20:34, Tim Orford wrote:
Hi Tim. I've looked in /etc/portage before, but the only thing there is a
directory named "sets". Would I have to create the file, or should it be
there already? Nigel.
> lightning
media-sound # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge -pv om
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -pv om
But beware this will turn off x86 masking for any dependencies installed
at the same time, which in the case of Smack will unnecesarily upgrade
your Gtk install.
The alternative is to add something like '>=media-sound/om-0.1.1'
to the file /etc/portage/package.keywords
cheers
--
Tim Orford
8:24 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] gentoo portage overlays
On 10/25/05, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb(a)tiscali.fr> wrote:
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 20:34, Tim Orford wrote:
Hi Tim. I've looked in /etc/portage before, but the only thing there is a
directory named "sets". Would I have to create the file, or should it be
there already? Nigel.
You should create it. (them possibly)
mark@lightning ~ $ ls -al /etc/portage/
total 24
drwxr-xr-x 3 root portage 4096 Oct 26 15:05 .
drwxr-xr-x 57 root root 4096 Oct 26 15:12 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 96 Oct 12 10:43 modules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 825 Oct 26 15:05 package.keywords
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 26 09:38 package.mask
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 294 Oct 26 09:40 package.use
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 4 19:27 profile
mark@lightning ~ $
mark@lightning ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords
gnome-base/gnome-light amd64
media-video/helixplayer amd64
media-libs/win32codecs amd64
net-irc/xchat-gnome amd64
x11-base/x11-drm amd64
app-admin/eselect-opengl ~amd64
app-admin/eselect ~amd64
sys-apps/sdparm ~amd64
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources ~amd64
x11-themes/fvwm-crystal ~amd64
x11-misc/trayer ~amd64
x11-wm/fvwm ~amd64
x11-misc/habak ~amd64
media-libs/libiec61883 ~amd64
sys-libs/libraw1394 ~amd64
sci-electronics/iverilog ~amd64
media-sound/om ~amd64
media-libs/liblo ~amd64
app-cdr/k3b ~x86
app-emulation/wine ~x86
media-libs/liblrdf ~x86
media-sound/alsa-headers ~x86
media-sound/alsa-jack ~x86
media-sound/alsa-lib ~x86
media-sound/alsa-oss ~x86
media-sound/alsa-tools ~x86
media-sound/alsa-utils ~x86
media-sound/snd ~x86
media-video/xine-ui ~x86
x11-libs/fltk ~x86
sys-fs/hfsplusutils x86
sys-fs/mac-fdisk ~x86
mark@lightning ~
mark@lightning ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.use
app-cdr/k3b ffmpeg
app-emulation/wine oss
sys-libs/glibc userlocales
gnome-extra/yelp firefox
media-tv/mythtv frontendonly oss -lirc
media-video/realplayer nsplugin
x11-misc/xscreensaver new-login
dev-java/blackdown-jre browserplugin
dev-java/blackdown-jdk browserplugin
media-sound/snd -esd
mark@lightning ~ $
>
lightning media-sound # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge -pv om
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -pv om
But beware this will turn off x86 masking for any dependencies installed
at the same time, which in the case of Smack will unnecesarily upgrade
your Gtk install.
The alternative is to add something like '>=media-sound/om-0.1.1'
to the file /etc/portage/package.keywords
cheers
--
Tim Orford
6:38 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On 10/25/05, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb(a)tiscali.fr> wrote:
Hi Mark. I've got as far as emerge -pv om. Unfortunately I've lost the syntax
for a one shot unmask for a single package. I need to unmask om which is
being masked by -x86 keyword. Nigel.
Although not the most acceptable way, does this not work?
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -pv om
I had ~amd64 due to the machine I tried it on yesterday.
The problem with the above method is it would five you ~x86 for
anything else it pulls in. A more acceptable way would be to add
media-sound/om ~x86
to /etc/portage/package.keywords. That will give you ~x86 for om and
stable for everything else. If that method runs into some package
that's also masked, then you add that package to package.keywords
until you have what you need.
I'd emerge this now but I'm in the middle of a qt rebuilt to
(hopefully) fix a problem with MythTV.
BTW there are ebuilds for om, omins, and smack, at a link from
http://smack.berlios.de . I havn't sent the URL for the link, as it's a bit
weird.
Cool. I'll take a look.
Thanks,
Mark
7:56 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 19:23 +0000, Nigel Henry wrote:
Hi Mark. I've got as far as emerge -pv om.
Unfortunately I've lost the
syntax for a one shot unmask for a single package. I need to unmask om
which is being masked by -x86 keyword. Nigel.
Can you fix your system clock? The dates on your messages are off by
several hours.
Lee
8:39 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 20:27, Lee Revell wrote:
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 19:23 +0000, Nigel Henry wrote:
Don't know. I've put a new battery in with plenty of shelf life, but the damn
clock has again lost more than 3 hrs in the last 4 days. Apart from resetting
it each time I bootup, I can't think of a fix. The smoothwall express2 gets
it's time updates from a time server, but I'm not sure how to set that up on
this old Gateway 500 I use for emails. Nigel.
Hi Mark. I've got as far as emerge -pv om.
Unfortunately I've lost the
syntax for a one shot unmask for a single package. I need to unmask om
which is being masked by -x86 keyword. Nigel.
Can you fix your system clock? The dates on your messages are off by
several hours.
Lee
9:04 p.m.
New subject: time drifts WAS: Re: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
Nigel Henry wrote:
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 20:27, Lee Revell wrote:
you can use ntp to fix time issue (it keeps checking against well
known time servers and computes drift etc.)
erik
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 19:23 +0000, Nigel Henry
wrote:
Don't know. I've put a new battery in with plenty of shelf life, but the damn
clock has again lost more than 3 hrs in the last 4 days. Apart from resetting
it each time I bootup, I can't think of a fix. The smoothwall express2 gets
it's time updates from a time server, but I'm not sure how to set that up on
this old Gateway 500 I use for emails. Nigel. Hi Mark. I've got as far as emerge -pv om.
Unfortunately I've lost the
syntax for a one shot unmask for a single package. I need to unmask om
which is being masked by -x86 keyword. Nigel.
Can you fix your system clock? The dates on your messages are off by
several hours.
Lee
9:50 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 00:40 +0000, Nigel Henry wrote:
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 20:27, Lee Revell wrote:
apt-get install ntpd
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 19:23 +0000, Nigel Henry
wrote:
Don't know. I've put a new battery in with plenty of shelf life, but the damn
clock has again lost more than 3 hrs in the last 4 days. Apart from resetting
it each time I bootup, I can't think of a fix. The smoothwall express2 gets
it's time updates from a time server, but I'm not sure how to set that up on
this old Gateway 500 I use for emails. Nigel.
Hi Mark. I've got as far as emerge -pv om.
Unfortunately I've lost the
syntax for a one shot unmask for a single package. I need to unmask om
which is being masked by -x86 keyword. Nigel.
Can you fix your system clock? The dates on your messages are off by
several hours.
Lee
27 Oct
27 Oct
2:51 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 23:49, Lee Revell wrote:
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 00:40 +0000, Nigel Henry wrote:
Hi Lee. I do apologise for the problems with my clock. I never realised that
it was 2 days behind. I can't get ntpd from Fedora, and tried dag's site as
well. I'm getting time updates using npt on the Smoothwall firewall, and
have asked at the smoothwall forum if there's a way to synch my client
machines to the firewalls RTC. The time (I hope) is right at the moment. If
there is no way to synch to the firewalls RTC, I will have to install ntp, at
least on the Gateway machine. The other one seems to be keeping time ok. Poor
o'l Gateway's probably reaching EOL. The cd writer has recently thrown in the
towel, and now the floppy drive works when it feels like it. Nigel.
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 20:27, Lee Revell
wrote:
apt-get install ntpd On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 19:23 +0000, Nigel Henry
wrote:
Don't know. I've put a new battery in with plenty of shelf life, but the
damn clock has again lost more than 3 hrs in the last 4 days. Apart from
resetting it each time I bootup, I can't think of a fix. The smoothwall
express2 gets it's time updates from a time server, but I'm not sure how
to set that up on this old Gateway 500 I use for emails. Nigel. Hi Mark. I've got as far as emerge -pv om.
Unfortunately I've lost
the syntax for a one shot unmask for a single package. I need to
unmask om which is being masked by -x86 keyword. Nigel.
Can you fix your system clock? The dates on your messages are off by
several hours.
Lee
25 Oct
25 Oct
10:32 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 22:07 +0000, Nigel Henry wrote:
ps: I hope Linux distro's arn't going the way
of MS Windows XP & the notorious
app trashing service pack 2. But saying that, at least Debian have the
decency to tell you before you upgrade, which app's they're going to trash.
Nope, this issue is due to your using the testing repository. I'm sure
you would not have it with stable.
Usually if I hit a situation like that I just wait a week to upgrade
anything, usually the problem has been sorted out by then.
Semi OT but SP2 does seem to be really bad even for Microsoft. A client
of mine reports that SP1 -> SP2 completely broke Firewire audio and
there's still no fix.
Lee
26 Oct
26 Oct
12:44 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] music apps being removed with Sarge/Etch updates
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 00:28, Lee Revell wrote:
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 22:07 +0000, Nigel Henry wrote:
I do have 2 Stable versions that I use on the same machine, and no problems
with these. I'll stay on the testing repo with the other one, as it will be
interesting to see how the transition from Sarge to Etch progresses, and if
any future upgrades start to affect Alsa. There are 2 kernels I use on this.
2.4.27-2-386 which is using alsa-driver 1.0.9a , and is upgraded quite often.
2.6.11-1-386 which uses alsa-ancient-driver 1.0.8 ,and thats the latest 2.6 in
the testing repo, which ain't very good.
Sound card on this machine that I run all distro's with music apps, is.
Audigy2 soundblaster (emu10k1), with chip: Sigmatel Stac9721/23 .
ps: I hope Linux distro's arn't going the
way of MS Windows XP & the
notorious app trashing service pack 2. But saying that, at least Debian
have the decency to tell you before you upgrade, which app's they're
going to trash.
Nope, this issue is due to your using the testing repository. I'm sure
you would not have it with stable.
Usually if I hit a situation like that I just wait a week to upgrade
anything, usually the problem has been sorted out by then.
Anyway, I went ahead with a devil may care attitude, and it has trashed
Cheesetracker. It's still on synaptic, but with no deb package available (at
the moment). Watch this space.
Semi OT but SP2 does seem to be really bad even for Microsoft. A client
of mine reports that SP1 -> SP2 completely broke Firewire audio and
there's still no fix.
I suppose that's why there was so much insistance by IT folks to run the SP2
upgrade on a test machine (if you've got one) before upgrading all the
production machines. Not very funny though, when MS as good as insists on the
upgrade. You do it, thinking you're doing the right thing, and end up totally
stuffed.
All the best. Nigel.
Lee
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