19 Mar
2003
19 Mar
'03
6:30 a.m.
Hi,
I'm checking out my distro options for a Linux machine I will use to
record music and do MIDI with.
I'm mostly a Debian adept, so I was
thinking of adding the demudi packages to my sources.list, but they
seem a bit out of date (there is newer stuff in sid than in the demudi
specific repositories ?).
Planet CCRMA looks very promising, it even includes a low latency
patched kernel :) (anyone having experience with this distro ?).
Gentoo seems nice too, albeit maybe a bit harder to install.
The most important thing is probably the availability of
music related programs (packages).
Aside from the distro question, which kernel do you prefer ?
I know I need the low latency patches in here:
http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/schedlat.html, but aside
from these patches, what should I definitely include in the
kernel ? I guess the pre-emptible kernel patch too (the planet
CCRMA distro has it).
kind regards,
Vincent
PS: amyone got the link to Benno Sononer's (I hope I spell it right :)
latencytest ?
19 Mar
19 Mar
7:26 a.m.
ons 2003-03-19 klockan 11.23 skrev Vincent Touquet:
Hi,
Hi there!
I'm checking out my distro options for a Linux machine I will use to
record music and do MIDI with.
I'm mostly a Debian adept, so I was
thinking of adding the demudi packages to my sources.list, but they
seem a bit out of date (there is newer stuff in sid than in the demudi
specific repositories ?).
Planet CCRMA looks very promising, it even includes a low latency
patched kernel :) (anyone having experience with this distro ?).
I did actually install Redhat 8.0 and then got the apt-get-RPMS from
CCRMA, and then took all the sound- and videoprograms from there, as the
instructions said. And it seems to work fairly well. The only thing is
that I fried my SBlive with a loos HD-power-cable, so I'm driving at
some CS42... stuff. Noisy and so on. But anyway, my conclusion is that
it works. And is simple to do. But if you already are a Debian-creature,
I think Debian is better than Redhat, both in stability and
"cleaness"...
Gentoo seems nice too, albeit maybe a bit harder to install.
The most important thing is probably the availability of
music related programs (packages).
It seems to be okay at Planet CCRMA :)
Aside from the distro question, which kernel do you prefer ?
I know I need the low latency patches in here:
http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/schedlat.html, but aside
from these patches, what should I definitely include in the
kernel ? I guess the pre-emptible kernel patch too (the planet
CCRMA distro has it).
CCRMA has it, yes. And it works. But I don't think it's that much effort
to patch the kernel-source yourself, and compile your own kernel.
Best Regards, Linus Ericsson
7:48 a.m.
el Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:23:33 +0100
Vincent Touquet <vincent.touquet(a)pandora.be> escribió:
Planet CCRMA looks very promising, it even includes a
low latency
patched kernel :) (anyone having experience with this distro ?).
planet ccrma is not a linux distribution in itself, it's a collection of
audio and music related packages specially built for the redhat
distribution.
that means you have to install redhat first (there are packages for 7.3 and
for 8.0), then install and configure apt-rpm, and you are ready to go. apt
takes care of everything, and the process is easy and very well documented.
the packages are very well built, and it's extremely easy to install
everything. i installed it two-three times, and everything works, with a
good internet connection you can have your system up and running in a
couple of hours.
fernando lopez-lescano is doing a great job indeed. the most obvious
advantages of the collection are:
- it's complete: virtually everything worth having in audio and music is
there
- it's up to date: fernando's goal is to have latest version of every
package.
- it's easy: everything is automated and works together, since you know
there's somebody taking care of the consistency of the system.
the main disadvantage is that it's made specifically for redhat, the
packages are no good for other distributions. personally i don't like
redhat and never liked it, that's one of the reasons why i don't use planet
ccrma myself. but don't pay any attention to my opinion, i don't like _any_
distribution for that matter, and i'm using linuxfromscratch. i never tried
gentoo, but from what i've read i would consider it a second option, but
you say you find it too complicated this is obviously not the way for you.
so, if you can suffer redhat, i would say planet ccrma is definitely the
way to go.
good luck
lj
8:30 a.m.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 08:41:43 -0300, luis jure wrote:
so, if you can suffer redhat, i would say planet ccrma
is definitely the
way to go.
Hmmm... I'm not so sure about "suffering" RedHat, my experince of RH8 is
that it has been extremely clean, easy to use, stable and generally good
all round*.
I wont post my opinions of other contempory distributions as I have no
wish to incite a distro war ;)
* Actually my suspend-to-ram stopped working. I dont know why, but it
appears to happen to other people.
- Steve
12:32 p.m.
At Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:21:10 +0000,
Steve Harris wrote:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 08:41:43 -0300, luis jure wrote:
ACPI problem?
try the kernel boot parameter "acpi=off".
Takashi
so, if you can suffer redhat, i would say planet
ccrma is definitely the
way to go.
Hmmm... I'm not so sure about "suffering" RedHat, my experince of RH8 is
that it has been extremely clean, easy to use, stable and generally good
all round*.
I wont post my opinions of other contempory distributions as I have no
wish to incite a distro war ;)
* Actually my suspend-to-ram stopped working. I dont know why, but it
appears to happen to other people. 
4:01 p.m.
One thing Suse has done for a long time is that it sets up rtc in the
kernel by default and you've had alsa as the main sound support for suse
for years now.
http://www.brianredfern.org
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:21:10 +0000,
Steve Harris wrote:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 08:41:43 -0300, luis jure wrote:
ACPI problem?
try the kernel boot parameter "acpi=off".
Takashi
so, if you can suffer redhat, i would say planet
ccrma is definitely the
way to go.
Hmmm... I'm not so sure about "suffering" RedHat, my experince of RH8 is
that it has been extremely clean, easy to use, stable and generally good
all round*.
I wont post my opinions of other contempory distributions as I have no
wish to incite a distro war ;)
* Actually my suspend-to-ram stopped working. I dont know why, but it
appears to happen to other people.
3:15 p.m.
el Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:21:10 +0000
Steve Harris <S.W.Harris(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk> escribió:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 08:41:43 -0300, luis jure
wrote:
my apologies, i see clearly now that it was a rude way of expressing my
opinion.
anyway, i had made clear that my opinions shouldn't be taken seriously in
any case, since in fact i don't like any distribution.
i'm glad that you find redhat stable and clean, you can enjoy the excellent
planet ccrma packages.
i agree that redhat has an excellent installation program, and it's very
easy to install and also easy to use, but to be frank and no offense
intended, i found many times that the cost of being easy and
"user-friendly" is that it's not so robust and clean as it should be. i
installed redhat at the school where i work a couple of times (6.0, 7.3,
8.0) and always found a few things that were broken. in particular, i find
very difficult in redhat to build and install packages from source, other
that those distributed by redhat or specifically built for that
distribution. but that might be my lack of knowledge of redhat and of linux
in general.
best,
lj
so, if you can suffer redhat, i would say planet
ccrma is definitely
the way to go.
Hmmm... I'm not so sure about "suffering" RedHat, my experince of RH8 is
that it has been extremely clean, easy to use, stable and generally good
all round*. I wont post my opinions of other contempory
distributions as I have no
wish to incite a distro war ;)
* Actually my suspend-to-ram stopped working. I dont know why, but it
appears to happen to other people.
- Steve
8:47 a.m.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 12:16:37PM +0000, Steve Harris wrote:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:23:33 +0100, Vincent Touquet
wrote:
Thanks all for your remarks :)
How much would you reserve for the main distro:
is 5Gb space enough ? [data goes onto a separate
drive]
kind regards,
Vincent
Planet CCRMA looks very promising, it even
includes a low latency
patched kernel :) (anyone having experience with this distro ?).
Yes. It's excellent.
9:04 a.m.
ons 2003-03-19 klockan 13.40 skrev Vincent Touquet:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 12:16:37PM +0000, Steve Harris
wrote:
Yes, for me it's enough. Actually I have exactly 5 Gb / too. And I have
enough space left for future add-ons.
snippet of df:
/dev/hda3 5241840 3922784 1052780 79% /
/dev/hda2 101107 13194 82692 14% /boot
And this is with almost whole RH8 and most of Planet CCRMAs stuff.
Best regards, Linus Ericsson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:23:33 +0100, Vincent
Touquet wrote:
Thanks all for your remarks :)
How much would you reserve for the main distro:
is 5Gb space enough ? [data goes onto a separate
drive] Planet CCRMA looks very promising, it even
includes a low latency
patched kernel :) (anyone having experience with this distro ?).
Yes. It's excellent. 
5:14 p.m.
Planet CCRMA looks very promising, it even includes a
low latency
patched kernel :) (anyone having experience with this distro ?).
Yes. It's excellent. 
12:08 p.m.
hi,
I'm mostly a Debian adept, so I was
thinking of adding the demudi packages to my sources.list, but they
seem a bit out of date (there is newer stuff in sid than in the demudi
specific repositories ?).
if heared that in the next weeks demudi should be further developed, so
this will be my choice.
greetings
stef
4:56 p.m.
Hallo,
Vincent Touquet hat gesagt: // Vincent Touquet wrote:
I'm checking out my distro options for a Linux
machine I will use to
record music and do MIDI with.
I'm mostly a Debian adept, so I was
thinking of adding the demudi packages to my sources.list, but they
seem a bit out of date (there is newer stuff in sid than in the demudi
specific repositories ?).
I currently only use the sources of demudi in my apt-list. Then you
just download it with "apt-get source" and build on your own
("apt-get build") A next release will not be too far away (Demudi had
a bad server crash recently, that is not fully repaired yet)
You need to face this: AGNULA/Demudi has a deadline. It will be
finished in I guess the next year. After that, the work Demudi has
done, will go into Debian, I suppose.
So if you like Debian, stay with it. You can only profit from Demudi.
ciao
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Stefan Ulbrich -
Steve Harris -
Takashi Iwai -
Vincent Touquet