The video is now online: Here: http://lorenzosu.altervista.org/kinoglaz/kino_en.html Or here: http://www.viddler.com/explore/lorenzosu/videos/3/ Kind regards, Lorenzo. Lorenzo wrote: > [ I try sending again as it seems my first message didn't get through > maybe due to attached screenshots] > > Ok, sorry for the delay but yesterday I had a little time to write and > recollect on this. > > The project consisted in the sonification of about 9 minutes from a > Russian silent film made in 1924. > > My hardware set-up is pretty simple: HP laptop with ubuntu (9.04 > currently), ZOOM H4 digital recorder, headphones, speakers. > Software-wise: jack (qjack control), Ardour, Rosegarden, Pd-extended, > various plugins (from the ready-made ubuntu packags), lots of other > audio-related stuff not used in this project, video applications (see > below). > I built Ardour and Rosegarden myself due to the ubuntu packages > notoriously being out of date for such applications. > I made the mistake of compiling ardour with vst support which wasn't > really necessary (I ended up not using any vst at all, having so many > nice 'native' ones) and seemed to make it more crashy (all the crashes > I got where Wine). Otherwise it was very stable. Anyway, fortunately I > always had the 'ctrl+s tick' and Ardour has a very good undo/redo > support amongst its many features, which keeps memory even through > closing and reopening sessions. > > Audio + video (jack) - My first issue was to find a way to perfectly > sync audio and video for use with jack-transport-aware applications > (Ardour of course has no support for video - I think that's good). > Research lead to basically two options for jack-transport and video: > Openmovieeditor and Xjadeo, Because I wanted to use Ardour I was more > attracted by xjadeo's minimal interface (basically a video window > controlled by jack transport); I tried building xjadeo after > discovering there was no package for ubuntu but couldn't successfully > play video so used Movie Editor for quite a while; eventually someone > created a launchpad repository for xjadeo and that did work (after > transcoding the clip in the right format). > I created a suitable qjack control profile and a simple script for > launching the video in xjadeo, after which my fixed set-up was ardour > and the small xjadeo window "always on top" - see screenshot-2.png - > notice ardour was perfectly in sync with the video which was a must > for me). > > Some of the material I had recorded with the H4 recorder and then > trransfered as wav file directly to ardour or PD for editing/processing. > Rosegarden and Pd were simply plugged into ardour via Jack, and > usually recorded "live" (for Rosegarden I also used transport). Many > sounds were created in Pd and recorded/edited in Ardour. > I also used Pd as a stereo delay effect with a patch I made for some > music composed in Rosegarden, I had some out of sync problems in this > case, but easily solved them by manually realigning the clip. It may > be I had something wrong in the configuration, but I wanted to get > "the job done" so didn't investigate on the problem. > In ardour I made massive use of volume and pan automation. > > Finally I exported the audio from ardour and imported both audio and > video in Cinelerra where I added some titles and translations in > English for the inter-titles in the silent film (the originals are in > Russian, but the DVD edition I had was in Italian) and rendered the > whole thing. > > I hope this might be helpful. I guess I wasn't very methodical in my > description so if something isn't clear or you'de like more > information don't hesitate to ask anything. > > Kind regards to the list, > Lorenzo. > PS: I plan to upload the video somewhere, but first I'de like to find > out the best option (i.e. probably not youtube) > > Lorenzo wrote: >> I'm finalising a lab project for an electronic music course which >> consisted in the sonification of a silent film portion. All was done >> in ubuntu linux. >> If it is of interest I can write down some details, and I also have a >> few screenshots. >> >> Kind regards, >> Lorenzo. >> >> Leigh Dyer wrote: >>> James Stone wrote: >>> >>>> Interesting.. How do vocals work in a tracker environment? >>>> >>> >>> If you want an example, there's a free album (someone posted on the list >>> back when it came out, so full credit for my knowing about it goes to >>> them!) produced entirely in Renoise that's available as both MP3s and >>> the original Renoise files: >>> >>> http://hunz.com.au/2009/05/new-album-is-out-now-its-free/ >>> >>> If nothing else, it's a great example of the kinds of things (including >>> vocals) that you can produce with Renoise. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Leigh >>> >>> >>>> What's the situation with plugins for renoise under Linux at the moment? >>>> >>>> How does midi control work? >>>> >>>> James

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Philippe Hezaine <philippe.hezaine(a)free.fr> wrote: Thanks everyone for the comments :) Philipp, they are the in same room, it's just recording our practice sessions, the guitar mics pick up quite a bit of the vocals, not so much bleed the other way around. Should I move the mics a bit further from the guitar? Phil, you're complements might be a little over the top but thanks! :)