29 Jan
2012
29 Jan
'12
1:06 a.m.
I'm looking for a new mixer and wondering if I should bother with one
of the USB units. From what I read they will send a signal back to the
computer for recording. Cool. Not something I'd use everyday, but
might be handy when I think I'm doing something good enough to
record/share :)
Now, I also see that they seem to use USB 2. Is that a linux problem?
Would a moderately new desktop keep up to a multitrack usb stream?
I'm assuming that these units send multi tracks to the computer
unmixed? Or is it just a copy of the 2 channel out?
Here's one example:
http://www.music123.com/Pro-Audio/Mixers/Unpowered-Mixers/XENYX-X1622USB-US…
Not sold on Behringer or this model, just looking around today.
Best,
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EMAIL: bob(a)mellowood.ca
WWW: http://www.mellowood.ca
29 Jan
29 Jan
1:47 a.m.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 05:06:01PM -0700, Bob van der Poel wrote:
I'm looking for a new mixer and wondering if I
should bother with one
of the USB units. From what I read they will send a signal back to the
computer for recording. Cool. Not something I'd use everyday, but
might be handy when I think I'm doing something good enough to
record/share :)
Now, I also see that they seem to use USB 2. Is that a linux problem?
If it's not class-compliant you need a specific driver. The specs
should tell you.
Would a moderately new desktop keep up to a multitrack
usb stream?
No problem.
I'm assuming that these units send multi tracks to
the computer
unmixed? Or is it just a copy of the 2 channel out?
Assuming is one thing, reading the specs is another. If there are any.
Here's one example:
http://www.music123.com/Pro-Audio/Mixers/Unpowered-Mixers/XENYX-X1622USB-US…
Not sold on Behringer or this model, just looking around today.
$240. If a mixer is sold for that price, and everybody in the chain
has to make a profit on it, then it was built for $40 or less. That's
the price of one decent fader. It may last a year or so. After that
it will be scrap, to be exported to Africa where child labour slaves
will burn away all the plastic to recover a few grams of copper.
Ciao,
--
FA
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3:04 a.m.
On 29 January 2012 00:06, Bob van der Poel <bob(a)mellowood.ca> wrote:
I'm assuming that these units send multi tracks to
the computer
unmixed? Or is it just a copy of the 2 channel out?
Reading the specs you linked,
it looks like two channel only: it clearly states:
"Built-in stereo USB/Audio Interface to connect directly to your
computer. Frlee audio recording, editing, and podcasting software plus
150 instrument/effect plug-ins and ultra-low latency driver included".
Probably the same internals of their non-USB mixer with masters
connected to their rock-bottom-low-cost UCA-202. I got one on my desk
for podcasting, does its work but I reckon not very good for more
serious work. Behringer mixers are not good but perfect for value. I
got a 2nd hand Behringer MX2642A. Fast forward 6 years, it's getting
reasonably old and well-used with two channels' amps dead due to
abuse. On the other hand, I paid £65 for it inc. p&p, value for money.
Luckily my place is full of mixers, decent Soundcrafts and
Studiomasters from mid-80s, Ebay still has plenty of good equipment.
2:56 p.m.
Bob van der Poel wrote:
I'm looking for a new mixer and wondering if I
should bother with one
of the USB units. [...]
Now, I also see that they seem to use USB 2. Is that a linux problem?
Class-compliant devices work with Linux; most others can be made to do
streaming (mixer controls are another question).
Many devices actually run full speed (commonly understood as USB 1.x)
and are just compatible with USB 2 controllers.
Here's one example:
http://www.music123.com/Pro-Audio/Mixers/Unpowered-Mixers/XENYX-X1622USB-US…
The manual on Behringer's website says that it also runs with the
Windows built-in driver, so this one is USB 1.1 and works with Linux.
Regards,
Clemens
6:26 p.m.
Thanks for the responses on this!
I've been looking at some manuals and it seems that most of the sub
$200 units do a stereo mix to usb.
The only mid range unit I've found which does multitrack is:
http://www.amazon.com/Alesis-Multimix-USB-FX-2-0/dp/B005E8O6BW/ref=pd_cp_MI…
Now, on this usb 1.x vrs 2.0 stuff ... I'm sure that I've read about
2.0 problems on this list. However, when I look on the web for usb 2.0
linux I get the impression that it's fully supported. I'm confused :)
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**** Listen to my CD at http://www.mellowood.ca/music/cedars ****
Bob van der Poel ** Wynndel, British Columbia, CANADA **
EMAIL: bob(a)mellowood.ca
WWW: http://www.mellowood.ca
9:05 p.m.
Bob van der Poel wrote:
Now, on this usb 1.x vrs 2.0 stuff ... I'm sure
that I've read about
2.0 problems on this list. However, when I look on the web for usb 2.0
linux I get the impression that it's fully supported. I'm confused :)
Linux has supported USB 2.0 for a long time. Recently, USB Audio 2.0
support was added.
Most USB 2.0 audio devices do not conform to the USB Audio 2.0
specification because Windows does not support it.
Regards,
Clemens
9:16 p.m.
Linux has supported USB 2.0 for a long time. Recently, USB Audio 2.0
support was added.
Most USB 2.0 audio devices do not conform to the USB Audio 2.0
specification because Windows does not support it.
Is there any way to know if the device is conform to usb 2.0 spec?
One other question, is the module used for 2.0 the same as 1.1
(snd-usb-audio... or something similar)
Regards,
Sylvain
10:14 p.m.
Shining Wisdom wrote:
All devices conform to the USB 2.0 specification.
As for the USB Audio 2.0 specification, the vendor would say it's
"class compliant" or that it works with the built-in driver of OS X.
Linux has
supported USB 2.0 for a long time. Recently, USB Audio 2.0
support was added.
Most USB 2.0 audio devices do not conform to the USB Audio 2.0
specification because Windows does not support it.
Is there any way to know if the device is conform to usb 2.0 spec? One other question, is the module used for 2.0 the
same as 1.1
(snd-usb-audio... or something similar)
Yes.
Regards,
Clemens
30 Jan
30 Jan
11:26 a.m.
Hi,
I have a Behringer Xenyx X1204 USB, which looks like a predecessor of
the one in your link. It comes with a separate usb interface (Behringer
UCA 202 U-Control, I think). Works out of the box with Linux, but 2
channels out only.
Best,
Kees
Bob van der Poel wrote:
I'm looking for a new mixer and wondering if I
should bother with one
of the USB units. From what I read they will send a signal back to the
computer for recording. Cool. Not something I'd use everyday, but
might be handy when I think I'm doing something good enough to
record/share :)
Now, I also see that they seem to use USB 2. Is that a linux problem?
Would a moderately new desktop keep up to a multitrack usb stream?
I'm assuming that these units send multi tracks to the computer
unmixed? Or is it just a copy of the 2 channel out?
Here's one example:
http://www.music123.com/Pro-Audio/Mixers/Unpowered-Mixers/XENYX-X1622USB-US…
Not sold on Behringer or this model, just looking around today.
Best,
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