16 Jan
2017
16 Jan
'17
7:31 p.m.
Greetings,
Did someone mention Pianoteq ?
https://soundcloud.com/davephillips69/three-desolations
More contrafacta, simple composition exercises, this time on pieces by
Liszt.
Best,
dp
16 Jan
16 Jan
7:56 p.m.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 01:31:44PM -0500, Dave Phillips wrote:
Did someone mention Pianoteq ?
https://soundcloud.com/davephillips69/three-desolations
More contrafacta, simple composition exercises, this time on pieces
by Liszt.
I'd love to hear these, and all of your work. But since I've banned
Flash (for obvious security reasons) that's impossible :-(
Is there really no music sharing site that doesn't require this
malware ?
Ciao,
--
FA
A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia.
It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)
8 p.m.
Jan 16 2017, Fons Adriaensen has written:
...
I'd love to hear these, and all of your work. But
since I've banned
Flash (for obvious security reasons) that's impossible :-(
Hey Fons,
you can use youtube-dl, now shipped with many distros as a package. It's
how I do it. It's a python script, not dependent on Flash. You can
download songs or if you have mpv or maybe new versions of mplayer you
can stream songs/videos.
Hope that helps.
Best wishes,
Jeanette
...
--------
When you need someone, you just turn around and I will be there <3
8:33 p.m.
On 16 Jan 2017, at 20:01, Jeanette C.
<julien(a)mail.uni-paderborn.de> wrote:
youtube-dl
FWIW it's also available as a GUI version. However, using it for websites that enforce
flash usage is a bad attitude. If we want that flash dies forever, we should strictly
boycott those websites, if not I recommend to use Chrome.
8:52 p.m.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 08:33:14PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I've been using youtube-dl for years, just didn't know it would
work with soundcloud.
On 16 Jan
2017, at 20:01, Jeanette C. <julien(a)mail.uni-paderborn.de> wrote:
youtube-dl
FWIW it's also available as a GUI version. However, using it for websites that enforce flash
usage is a bad attitude.
If we want that flash dies forever, we should strictly boycott those websites,
if not I recommend to use Chrome.
I switched to Opera, having lost all trust in Chrome.
Ciao,
--
FA
A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia.
It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)
10:17 p.m.
On måndag 16 januari 2017 kl. 19:52:43 CET Fons Adriaensen wrote:
I switched to Opera, having lost all trust in Chrome.
It's starting to be OT, but:
https://vivaldi.com :-)
11:21 p.m.
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:52:43 +0000
Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 08:33:14PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
I've been using youtube-dl for years, just didn't know it would
work with soundcloud.
youtube-dl --list-extractors
Four Soundcloud it consists of:
soundcloud
soundcloud:playlist
soundcloud:search
soundcloud:set
soundcloud:user
And if it does not work, update it. Some, like youtube, change their
interface from time to time although usually youtube-dl catches up in a
day or two.
On 16 Jan
2017, at 20:01, Jeanette C.
<julien(a)mail.uni-paderborn.de> wrote: youtube-dl
FWIW it's also available as a GUI version.
17 Jan
17 Jan
9:39 a.m.
OT:
Hi,
On 16 Jan 2017, at 20:52, Fons Adriaensen
<fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
I switched to Opera, having lost all trust in Chrome.
FWIW in the AUR there's Vivaldi
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/vivaldi/
"Vivaldi is a freeware, cross-platform web browser developed by Vivaldi Technologies,
a company founded by Opera Software co-founder and former CEO Jon Stephenson von Tetzchner
and Tatsuki Tomita. The browser is aimed at staunch technologists, heavy Internet users,
and previous Opera web browser users disgruntled by Opera's transition from the Presto
layout engine to the Blink layout engine, which removed many popular features in the
process. Vivaldi aims to revive the old, popular features of Opera 12 and introduce new,
more innovative features." - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)
Regards,
Ralf
PS: Disclaimer: I installed Vivaldi, but don't use it much.
More OT: Not much used by me, so I might be mistaken, but it likely will replace all
other Linux calculators for me https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/extcalc/ , it seems not
to suffer from the bugs or disadvantages as all the other calculators do.
8:07 p.m.
Am 16.01.2017 um 20:01 schrieb Georg Krause:
well, at least here for me. i have firefox, with no flash plugin
installed but i can use soundcloud and its working pretty good. or i am
wrong with that? i googled and found no big news about soundcloud
without flash so i am a little in doubt now if i maybe have a
flashplayer installed without knowing it :o
Is there
really no music sharing site that doesn't require this
malware ?
there is, eg soundcloud ;)
8:07 p.m.
On måndag 16 januari 2017 kl. 18:56:51 CET Fons Adriaensen wrote:
...
I'd love to hear these, and all of your work. But
since I've banned
Flash (for obvious security reasons) that's impossible :-(
Is there really no music sharing site that doesn't require this
malware ?
SoundCloud has an HTML5 widget player by default and YouTube is also an option
for delivering music only (having a picture as a "movie").
Jostein
8:11 p.m.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 08:07:05PM +0100, Jostein Chr. Andersen wrote:
On måndag 16 januari 2017 kl. 18:56:51 CET Fons
Adriaensen wrote:
...
I get a popup saying I need flash, and there's no obvious other
way as far as I could find out.
But youtube-dl works, thanks J. !
Ciao,
--
FA
A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia.
It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)
I'd love to hear these, and all of your work.
But since I've banned
Flash (for obvious security reasons) that's impossible :-(
Is there really no music sharing site that doesn't require this
malware ?
SoundCloud has an HTML5 widget player by default and YouTube is also an option
for delivering music only (having a picture as a "movie"). 
8:43 p.m.
Am Montag, den 16.01.2017, 19:11 +0000 schrieb Fons Adriaensen:
Hi!
To ensure Firefox doesn't need Flash, I have installed a handy addon,
named
"Video WithOut Flash" from "TheDrev"
There are some sites where it doesn't work, but soundcloud isn't one of
them... :)
Greets!
Mitsch
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 08:07:05PM +0100, Jostein Chr.
Andersen
wrote:
SoundCloud has
an HTML5 widget player by default and YouTube is
also an option
for delivering music only (having a picture as a "movie").
I get a popup saying I need flash, and there's no obvious other
way as far as I could find out.
8:11 p.m.
On 01/16/2017 01:56 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 01:31:44PM -0500, Dave
Phillips wrote:
Hey Fons,
I'm uploading the original WAV to linux-sound.org :
http://linux-sound.org/audio/3desolations.wav
It's a 48 kHz 24-bit stereo file, so it's taking a bit of time to get
there. Should be ready in about 20 minutes.
I'm using SoundClod because I'm too lazy to look for an alternative. I
enable downloads on all my pieces there, not that that helps if the site
is Flash-enabled.
Best regards,
dp
Did someone mention Pianoteq ?
https://soundcloud.com/davephillips69/three-desolations
More contrafacta, simple composition exercises, this time on pieces
by Liszt.
I'd love to hear these, and all of your work. But since I've
banned
Flash (for obvious security reasons) that's impossible :-(
Is there really no music sharing site that doesn't require this
malware ?
8:46 p.m.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 02:11:21PM -0500, Dave Phillips wrote:
I'm uploading the original WAV to linux-sound.org
:
http://linux-sound.org/audio/3desolations.wav
It's a 48 kHz 24-bit stereo file, so it's taking a bit of time to
get there. Should be ready in about 20 minutes.
I got both this one and the youtube-dl file, they seem to be identical.
Some comments:
The music: this is the sort of thing I'll listen to again and again
since I'm pretty sure each time I will discover something new.
Thanks for sharing this !
The sound: makes me sort of uneasy as it it 'too perfect': there's
absolutely no background noise (as would be present in even the
best studio recordings). But the pedal releases are a nice touch...
I'm also driven to add some mid-lf boost (350 Hz, +6 dB) as the
low range is a bit thin.
Ciao !
--
FA
A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia.
It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)
11:33 p.m.
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:46:47 +0000
Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
The sound: makes me sort of uneasy as it it 'too
perfect': there's
absolutely no background noise (as would be present in even the
best studio recordings). But the pedal releases are a nice touch...
I'm also driven to add some mid-lf boost (350 Hz, +6 dB) as the
low range is a bit thin.
The sound of the hammers can also be configured in pianoteq.
I presume one could add a Foley discrete background to make it more
real. Something like discrete_hush_in_classical_concert_hall. As long
as the Foley file is not too short and repetitions starts to be
annoying.
What I'd do is that midway in the performance, the piano sound would
diminish, the Foley ambiance would get louder and louder and them
glitched, at which point the piano performance would break into a
modern simplified variation in sync with the glitch rhythm. Liszt
wouldn't like it, though.
9:52 p.m.
Jan 16 2017, Dave Phillips has written:
...
Hey Dave,
this will be purely about your music and not the way that it is
provided. :)
I loved some passages very much. I'm afraid my attraction to that
slightly off-kilter composition is very selective and completely
unreasonable. In the first section there were a few passages which
sounded gratingly sequenced. Somehow mechanical and static. Seeing that
this impression changed over the piece, I assume that this was done by
design. Though especially that same section held a few passages which
really touched a chord somewhere. :) The dark, unpretentious mood of all
three pieces sits very well with me.
Thank you for sharing!
Best wishes,
Jeanette
...
--------
When you need someone, you just turn around and I will be there <3
11:45 p.m.
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:52:52 +0100 (CET)
"Jeanette C." <julien(a)mail.upb.de> wrote:
Jan 16 2017, Dave Phillips has written:
...
Hey Dave,
this will be purely about your music and not the way that it is
provided. :)
I loved some passages very much. I'm afraid my attraction to that
slightly off-kilter composition is very selective and completely
unreasonable. In the first section there were a few passages which
sounded gratingly sequenced. Somehow mechanical and static. Seeing
that this impression changed over the piece, I assume that this was
done by design. Though especially that same section held a few
passages which really touched a chord somewhere. :) The dark,
unpretentious mood of all three pieces sits very well with me.
Indeed it depends very well on the intent. It's easy to compare with
the originals as they are found easily on youtube. Since the intent is
at play and since one of the goal could have been to make it sound
like it does (if that makes sense) one could perhaps venture
nevertheless that the blending of sounds is on the scarce side. That
is, if compared with a human playing the same, on a real piano. Perhaps
like not using the sustain pedal much. Sounds seems to be clear-cut. Is
this kind of criticism valid ? I don't know.
17 Jan
17 Jan
1:44 p.m.
Hey Jeanette,
On 01/16/2017 03:52 PM, Jeanette C. wrote:
this will be purely about your music and not the way that it is
provided. :)
Aw shucks, I was learning so much about music hosting.
I loved some passages very much. I'm afraid my
attraction to that
slightly off-kilter composition is very selective and completely
unreasonable. In the first section there were a few passages which
sounded gratingly sequenced. Somehow mechanical and static. Seeing that
this impression changed over the piece, I assume that this was done by
design. Though especially that same section held a few passages which
really touched a chord somewhere. :) The dark, unpretentious mood of all
three pieces sits very well with me.
Thanks a lot, J. As a keyboardist you undoubtedly hear these things
quite differently than I do. Above all, I'm utterly non-observant
regarding playability, which allows the part writing to go where it
will, i.e. with no regard for what human hands can actually play. I am
self-consciously following the lead of Conlon Nancarrow here, or Bach in
parts of the Kunst der Fuge. As the note on the SC site states, it's
"sequenced music for a virtual piano", which is to say it's two steps
removed from reality. Somewhat like myself.
FWIW, I like Desolation #3 the best, but the longer second Desolation
introduces a number of interesting composition details, things I'll
likely use in more original work.
Thank you for sharing!
As always, thank you for listening. Your ears are appreciated. :)
Best wishes,
Jeanette
Best regards,
dp
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