On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 01:40 +0000,
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:02:44 +0200
From: Philipp ?berbacher <hollunder(a)lavabit.com>
Subject: Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?
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Excerpts from S. Massy's message of 2011-10-19 21:09:36 +0200:
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:31:48AM +0200, Jostein
Chr. Andersen
wrote:
>
> It's interesting that in the 70's (the last half for me) and 80's,
we did not
> have much possibilities compared to what we
have today, we had to
stick to
> what we had. But the sound itself and the
mixes could sound very
good. Much of
> what's typical of the sound from the
70's and 80's was not about
quality but
> sound preferences, well expect for noise,
echo and other tape and
HW
artifacts.
It's also interesting to note that, with the plethora of devices,
plugins and general techniques available today, mmusic production
seems
to be sonically convergent. IOW, back when people
had less freedom
in
terms of choice, they fought harder to create a
production sound
specific to them, while today, that self-same freedom seems to be
used
to mimic one another as much as possible. (This
is speaking broadly,
of
course.)
Cheers,
S.M.
The question is, what can you do except mimic each other? Where can
you
go where no-one has gone before?
I think I heard an anecdote once that Mozart (or another big classical
composers) wondered about the same thing, yet a lot stuff happened
since. The only possible way to go is into experimental music, and
even
there it's very hard to do something no-one has done before. The added
downside is that nearly no-one will want to listen to experimental
music (based on the principle of pop music, people like what's similar
to what they know and like). I think many people have run into this
problem and I believe that's where the (from my observation)
increasing
trend of combining different kinds media comes from.
In at least the time I could observe them many musicians fell into two
categories: Those who are happy with playing music in the style of
popular musicians from years past (Classical era, Beatles era, Rock
era)
and those who are happy to play in the popular style of the present
(Pop). I believe those who tried to find new grounds have always been
a
minority, and it likely always was hard, for a variety of reasons.
Regards,
Philipp
Do we need e.g. guys like Mark Guilian, Mike Patton, etc. those spoiled
kids who bedder should drive the Porsche spend by mum and dad? They
steal the music of my generation independence musicians and make a lot
of money. We are hardly able to event some new kind of music, but we can
try to do it and we can keep our roots. Those roots might be Schubert,
McCoy Tyner, Radio Birdman, The Acüssed etc. but never ever some of that
commercial mainstream.
The other thread was about what? Analog mixing vs "how much plugins can
I use to kill a good composition?" when doing digital recording. Nobody
force us to do over-processing when doing HDD and MIDI-sequencer
recording. We are free to use the computer in a sane way.