On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 00:37:37 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: IOW the real hardware is handled by linux (linux = the kernel), a driver for the Windows kernel doesn't provide features for the real hardware, it only could work for emulated, virtual hardware, and the emulated, virtual hardware can only provide what's provided by the real hardware that is handled by the "host"/linux.

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 03:16:03 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: not aware about the features that can be controlled by automaton of a sequencer ;). I'm aware about VST support. -- Marge Simpson: We used to call ourselves the Cool Moms. Bart Simpson: There is nothing cooler than calling yourself cool.

On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 21:42:21 -0500, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com wrote: I don't know if Linux sequencers support VST editor automation. As I already pointed out, I used automation for editors, when I used the Atari ST as sequencer. 1. Atari ST MIDI is hard real-time, since the rout from hardware to software is directly (no protocols from a to b, as for modern computers) and no multi-tasking is involved, IOW real-time abilities were much better these days. 2. I used separated outputs from the sequencer to the synth inputs. I didn't send the data of 16 channels including SysEx by one MIDI output. If you have dedicated outputs and you just send SysEx to modify a filter, then the non-real-time SysEx data is without a checksum and much shorter than e.g. the real-time data for a pitch bend, IOW, SysEx can be used in real-time and yes, you could control some things, that might be not available by MIDI control change. OTOH many synth provide to assign control change data to filters, so sometimes no SysEx is needed.

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 03:56:16 +0100 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)rocketmail.com> wrote: OK, now I see what you meant. Vielen Dank.

On 12/14/2014 03:06 AM, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com wrote: Not sure if it can be made to work (easily) under linux, I suppose the vst is .dll (windows format) and not .so (linux format). However the benefit of the vst should be that the synth behaves as a vst plugin, but is in fact a hardware synth. 1) vst plugins offer total integration with the host, everything is controllable through either realtime midi knobs or automation 2) having hardware "behind" the vst means that your cpu doesn't use cpu to generate the sounds, that is handled in the korg. -- Atte http://atte.dk http://a773.dk

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:26:34 +0100 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)rocketmail.com> wrote: Just now I installed dssi-vst, by searching around on the net. It does start the VST ms editor, and Renoise can see it as MIDI output. At this point I can surely make a track with a sound from the KORG ms, although I do not see any benefits when compared to having the synth through MIDI w/o any editor whatsoever. Of notice, the hardware keyboard now does not make any sound. Only through Renoise or the editor itself can a sound be heard. Using the editor, I slide the EQ wet/dry ratio to see if this gets recorded. There's no MIDI message received by Renoise. Thyat would make sense since Renoise cannot see the plugéin editor as input (it is not listed in the drop down menu choices). I could try with Ardour also I guess if this is more suitable for the mailing list. Ardour MIDI interface should work with this also although I haven't used any Ardour MIDI tracks yet and do not know how it works at all. BTW, the frigger dssi-vst 386 Linux Mint package has removed my favorite Jamin application upon install ! This is very stupid, I find. Back to the plugin, Renoise can see the KORG ms itself through MIDI as input. It can also see /as input/ the Wine MIDI driver/Wine ALSA output. In short, I still don't see how to use a VST plug-in in such a way that it benefits from a regular MIDI use. Now, what is ASIO and what can the wineasio do ?

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:07:28 +0100 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)rocketmail.com> wrote: I do not hold in much high esteem the Debian packagers as too often have I seen package dependency bloat. Like, there's an .el file, so let's add emacs as a dependency. The ones listed in Ardour are made by Steve Harris (LADSPA). I'd like to try Fons' so where is it to find ? I sure do not mind reading about the topic, although articles I found so far are very technical and do not seem to apply directly to practical matters. There's only so much time available ans so much interest in lofty theories. I'm sure there's a way to explain audio engineering things simply in a practical manner, but haven't found anything yet.

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:07:28 +0100 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)rocketmail.com> wrote: Update. The liblo7 package was not built for multi-arch and that created the problem for which jamin (64 bits) had to be uninstalled when installing dssi-vst:386. A colleague fixed it and submitted a patch upstream Debian for the liblo7 package. Cheers.