5 Oct
2011
5 Oct
'11
2:38 p.m.
What is more sad is the fact that Wikipedia had to speak this way to make
every single italian what's going on in 2011.
As if they couldn't see it before.
Before, I mean, since about 20 years or so. No kidding, B. is there since
then, doing the same things all the time.
M
On 05/10/2011 10:17, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
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Absolutely OT, but of interest to all concerned
about freedom
of information:
This is so depressing.
As of today, consulting the Italian Wikipedia will redirect
you to the Italian version of this page:
<http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Comunicato_4_ottobre_2011/en>
Very good move by Wikipedia. Hopefully all of those ignorant, arrogant,
greasy portaborse [1], so-called journalist et. sim. will get into panic
mode as they cannot find any more cut-n-paste material...
To put this in context, the law proposal referrred to is just
the latest attempt by the government to silence all voices
reporting on the many scandals that its leader, Silvio
Berlusconi, is involved in, ranging from corruption of judges
and witnesses to using the services of under-age prostitutes.
sob.
5 Oct
5 Oct
2:49 p.m.
New subject: [OT] Message on Italian Wikipedia
On 05/10/2011 14:38, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
What is more sad is the fact that Wikipedia had to
speak this way to
make every single italian what's going on in 2011.
Please rephrase: most Italians. ;)
As if they couldn't see it before.
Before, I mean, since about 20 years or so. No kidding, B. is there
since then, doing the same things all the time.
M
On 05/10/2011 10:17, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Absolutely OT, but of interest to all concerned
about freedom
of information:
This is so depressing.
As of today, consulting the Italian Wikipedia will redirect
you to the Italian version of this page:
<http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Comunicato_4_ottobre_2011/en>
Very good move by Wikipedia. Hopefully all of those ignorant, arrogant,
greasy portaborse [1], so-called journalist et. sim. will get into panic
mode as they cannot find any more cut-n-paste material...
To put this in context, the law proposal referrred to is just
the latest attempt by the government to silence all voices
reporting on the many scandals that its leader, Silvio
Berlusconi, is involved in, ranging from corruption of judges
and witnesses to using the services of under-age prostitutes.
sob.
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Marco Donnarumma
Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher
ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/>
Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com
<http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/> | http://www.thesaddj.com
<http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/>
Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
<http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>
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7:23 p.m.
New subject: [OT] Message on Italian Wikipedia
This is plain daft. Apart from the obvious... I mean, do they think so
little of their own people that they assume such crude methods would
prevent them from discussing matters? Do they think Italians can neither
use a tunnel server outside Italy nor speak any other language???
This is frankly besildering.
Cheers,
S.M.
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8:22 p.m.
New subject: [OT] Message on Italian Wikipedia
No, but they have power to do this only in Italy. If you ask them, they
would gladly extend this law globally.
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:24 PM, S. Massy <lists(a)wolfdream.ca> wrote:
This is plain daft. Apart from the obvious... I mean,
do they think so
little of their own people that they assume such crude methods would
prevent them from discussing matters? Do they think Italians can neither
use a tunnel server outside Italy nor speak any other language???
This is frankly besildering.
Cheers,
S.M.
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9:25 p.m.
New subject: [OT] Message on Italian Wikipedia
Excerpts from Louigi Verona's message of 2011-10-05 20:22:41 +0200:
No, but they have power to do this only in Italy. If
you ask them, they
would gladly extend this law globally.
The tendency is present in Austria too for example, but it's not that
extreme yet. Since a few years there's a new anti-mafia-law but so far
this was only used to prosecute animal rights activists and student
representatives. It's similar in the sense that it's a potentially
powerful law that can be used for rather arbitrary purposes, but I think
only the police can make use of this. This new Italian thing is 'only'
about information but, as I understand it, can be abused by anyone.
9:03 p.m.
New subject: [OT] Message on Italian Wikipedia
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 13:24:08 -0400
"S. Massy" <lists(a)wolfdream.ca> wrote:
This is plain daft. Apart from the obvious... I mean,
do they think so
little of their own people that they assume such crude methods would
prevent them from discussing matters?
They don't assume, they know. This is just the most recent of these
filthy laws: Berlusconi and his comrades have been constantly putting
out similar crap for the past 20 years, and most of the time nothing
stopped them. There *has* allways been a large discontent (growing as of
lately), but their arrogant and aggresive strategy of keeping a straight
face, no matter how much their talk stinks, has allways won the favour
of the majority. They just know it works, and having no dignity or
sense of decency, they'll keep doing it 'till someone literally kicks
them out.
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